Still_Small_Voice

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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to askandanswer in Someone flirted with me…   
    Another way of putting that is that a girl would never be alone with @LDSGator 
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to LDSGator in Someone flirted with me…   
    Two of my closest friends are women, and I totally agree. My wife is friends with them as well and we just had dinner with one of them and her brother on Sunday. 
    I’m NEVER alone with a girl. It’s a combination of paranoia, common sense, and an understanding of our current climate.    
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to askandanswer in Someone flirted with me…   
    I think the real question is what happens on your next trip alone, what happens next time you are in a similar situation for a prolonged period of time, what happens next time a man tries to flirt with you? And you dont have to be on a long flight for this to happen, it could happen next time you go shopping. Having once participated and enjoyed it, will you want to do so again? Will this be a once only experience or the beginning of a pattern?
    Some possible responses to those questions could be a) I feel bad about this, that's my conscience telling me that it was wrong, so I won't do it again, and I'd better take some preventative steps to reduce the likelihood of it happening again. b) That was a test, I enjoyed it, I passed the test, so if the opportunity arises, I'll do it again or c ) I enjoyed that, nothing bad happened, I want it to happen again so I'll look for or create similar opportunities. B and C are dangerous choices. Any sort of action that releases endorphins often becomes an action that we want to do more of. For some people it only takes one drink to become an alcoholic. 
    Welcome to the forum, its a great place to get advice and discuss ideas. 
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    Still_Small_Voice got a reaction from LDSGator in Someone flirted with me…   
    I try not to be alone with a woman if it can be avoided as I am married.  Personally I believe it leads to nothing good. 
    If you are married, flirting with someone else is also not something wise to give in to.  There is a very fine line of being friendly and getting into flirting territory.  Let the Holy Spirit be your guide.  My own conscience calls me out along with the Holy Ghost many times when I am not in a spiritual mind set.
    8 So then they that are after the flesh cannot please God.
    9 But ye are not after the flesh, but after the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you . . .
    1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
    -- Romans Chapter 8 Inspired Version
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to Vort in Someone flirted with me…   
    These are my personal observations. Take them for what they seem worth to you.
    There are two types of men:
    Those that understand women on an emotional level Those that do not understand women, but naively assume that women are emotionally pretty much like men, only more prone to tears The second group is far larger than the first. Most temple-worthy Latter-day Saint men find themselves in Camp 2. Your husband is statistically likely to be a Camp Twoer.
    Men can also be divided (roughly) into two camps along another axis, namely, how they feel toward women:
    Those that respect women Those that do not truly respect women as people, but see them as things to be used to achieve their own ends. Call these Camp A and Camp B. Curiously, at least in my experience, Camp A seems at least as large as Camp B, and probably larger, both inside and outside the Church. To hear women talk about it, you would never guess that to be the case, but I think it is.
    Some men call themselves "pick-up artists". These men are usually from Camp 1 and almost always from Camp B. Women find these guys irresistable. Why? In part at least, it's because they are from Camp 1 and understand women. And because these men are also from Camp B, they use their understanding of women to get into their panties. For them, that's the game. They are expert flirts.
    For women, flirting is a game to see if they (the women) can garner external validation. For men (at least for the PAs), flirting is a game to see if they (the men) can successfully seduce the women. This is a dangerous, volatile situation. The women involved in flirting may not consciously be looking for a sexual "hook-up", and may even believe they want to avoid that. But they are craving that emotional validation, and the men (at least the PAs) know exactly how to feed that hunger. Many women have found themselves in bed with a man they don't know and/or don't even like because they "followed their heart" (meaning their emotions) into the bedroom.
    Odds are that you would not follow through and cheat on your husband. But let's be clear: You're playing with fire and stand a nonzero chance of getting burned. If you view your marriage through a gospel lens, you will consider it of infinite importance, and would not risk its integrity to get some attention any more than you would risk your child's life to get some thrills. Whether or not the other guy was a PA is beside the point, at least as far as that goes.
    (By the way, women divide into the same two sets of camps as men. Like men, most women dwell in Camp 2, which is why women so often naively and wrongly claim that men are "emotionally stunted" or some nonsense of the sort; they expect men to be women that shave their faces. However, my observation is that women are pretty equally divided between Camps A and B, and if anything tend more toward Camp B. Men are and always have been viewed by women as caretakers. As a result, women view men quite dispassionately—many men would say ruthlessly—as to what the men can offer to the woman. This is most obvious when talking with young women in their late teens and twenties. If Carb had listened to his sister's friends much longer, he likely would eventually have heard conversation that would have included the women objectifying men, including their husbands, to a shocking degree. Not all women do this, of course; my wife never does. But if men stay quiet and pay attention to what women say in public and in private, many of them will be amazed at what they hear. Women are not the people we men often think they are. More to the point, women are not the people we men have been taught that they are.)
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to estradling75 in Someone flirted with me…   
    None of us here really have enough information to judge how much repentance you might need other then it does not appear you need the bishop.  For me, the standard I try to use and I recommend is the Golden Rule... aka Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.   In this case the application is pretty simple.  Imagine your husband doing everything you did... feeling everything you felt...  Are you OK with that?  If you would be upset, angry or hurt if your husband did it to you... then you have got some work to do.  But ultimately that is between you the Lord and possibly your husband. We really do not have enough to say anymore about it.

    Now you have been shown a weakness.  This is great because you can't deal with things you do not know about.  You have been shown a need and want that you have.  There is nothing wrong with what you want.  But there very much can be something wrong with how you go about getting what you want.  So talk to your husband, tell him what you want.  Odds are he wants it too.  Once you guys are both aware of the issue you can make plans to deal with it.  It most likely require the two of you investing time, money and effort into your relationship... Don't worry to much about that, because investing in your eternal marriage is one of the best investments you can make.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to Carborendum in Someone flirted with me…   
    I'll tell you two stories:
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    I was at school and found a girl sitting alone.  I started up a conversation with her.  We did some nice flirting for a while.  It was fun.  After a while, another guy came up and asked if she was ready to go.  From their interactions, I gathered they were married (calling her "hon" and so on).  I felt kind of embarrassed and disappointed.  She was cute.
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    My sister had a few friends over to her apartment.  All of them had husbands.  One of them talked about "dressing sexy."  I don't know if those were the exact words they used.  But that is how I remember it.  Because I was very quiet and "the hostess's brother" most of the ladies were very free with their speech.  They indicated that it was not just the normal "competing with other women."  It was about attracting other guys.
    I eventually interjected,"But aren't you all married?"
    "Yeah.  But that doesn't mean we don't like attention from other men."  I kind of looked at them with a quizzical look.  "It's flattering to get hit on by a guy.  And it's completely safe when all you have to do is lift up your hand and show your ring."
    I still don't know whether this is good behavior or not.  But I do know that you are not alone in wanting to feel pretty and desirable.
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    Still_Small_Voice got a reaction from zil2 in 52 Churches in 52 weeks   
    I have been watching some of his videos.  (52 Churches in 52 Weeks.)  It made me want to go down and visit the Manti Temple in Utah.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to zil2 in 52 Churches in 52 weeks   
    Cardinals.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to mikbone in 52 Churches in 52 weeks   
    We got another one.
    My wife was following him prior to his baptism.  
    He loved the temple open houses.  Our clear communication.  And Robins (the birds).
     
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to NeuroTypical in The Morality of Having Children   
    Death cults gotta death cult.  It's always fun to ask these folks about their proposed solutions.  The decent ones say "I'm not going to have children and contribute to the problem."  The problematic ones propose all sorts of things from expanding access to birth control, to outright forced sterilization and murder.  But they never see it that way.  It's always couched in innocent terms like "we need to create a society where all couples have one or two children max".  You get to asking them about the details.  What happens if a couple ends up with three, or five, or ten?  Do you want to convince people to join voluntarily, or do you believe in using government force like China?
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to ZealoulyStriving in Another pet peeve   
    I had a rich lady bring in a fancy German vacuum that wasn't picking anything up. When I looked it was COMPLETELY clogged. When I showed her, she was in absolute SHOCK. She thought that vacuum just magically took care of the dirt. 🤣
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to mikbone in The Book of Mormon: A Latter-day Guide to Manhood   
    Alma 48: 17 Yea, verily, verily I say unto you, if all men had been, and were, and ever would be, like unto Moroni, behold, the very powers of hell would have been shaken forever; yea, the devil would never have power over the hearts of the children of men.
    Im pretty sure that Mormon named his son Moroni based off the reasoning of the above verse.
    Captain Moroni is a great example of manhood.  
    The best example is Christ.
    Unfortunately, many artists, directors, and writers have portrayed Christ as a weak gentle man with feminine characteristics.  
    He was not.
    The Book of Mormon give us a lens to better understand the masculinity of Christ.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to ZealoulyStriving in The Book of Mormon: A Latter-day Guide to Manhood   
    Last year as I was reading through the Book of Mormon again, I was inspired to really notice all the father-son(s) dynamics, I then realized that beyond being the "keystone of our religion" and our "latter-day survival guide", it is specifically directed at men. I believe Mormon was inspired to include the things he did because the Lord knew in the days it would come forward masculinity and manhood would be under attack and the accounts in the Book of Mormon can help to counter that trend. The Book of Mormon addresses:
    *how to be a good husband (Lehi)
    *how to be a good father (Lehi, Jacob, Enos, King Benjamin, Alma(s), Helaman ben Alma, etc...)
    *how to be a good mentor (Captain Helaman)
    *how to be a good friend/companion (Ammon ben Mosiah, Alma ben Alma)
    *how to be a good leader and citizen (Chief Captain Moroni)
    The Book of Mormon is literally a "How to Manual" of being a man.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to LDSGator in The Berenstain Cross-dressers   
    They’ve always been pretty shady. 

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    Still_Small_Voice got a reaction from Vort in President Holland: A Breather of Holy Fire   
    Listening to Elder Holland's talk, I wonder how much longer he will be with us.  His mortal years may be nearing an end.
    I doubt I have more than 35 years left in my life before I pass on to the spirit world.  Hopefully I can join the saints and prophets in paradise to sing praises to the Holy LORD God.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to Emmanuel Goldstein in President Holland: A Breather of Holy Fire   
    "I bear witness that when Christ comes, He needs to recognize us—not as nominal members listed on a faded baptismal record but as thoroughly committed, faithfully believing, covenant-keeping disciples. This is an urgent matter for all of us, lest we ever hear with devastating regret: “I never knew you,” or, as Joseph Smith translated that phrase, “[You] never knew me.” Fortunately, we have help for this task—lots of help. We need to believe in angels and miracles and the promises of the holy priesthood. We need to believe in the gift of the Holy Ghost, the influence of good families and friends, and the power of the pure love of Christ. We need to believe in revelation and prophets, seers, and revelators and President Russell M. Nelson. We need to believe that with prayer and pleading and personal righteousness, we really can ascend to “Mount Zion, … the city of the living God, the heavenly place, the holiest of all.”
    Brothers and sisters, as we repent of our sins and come boldly to the “throne of grace,” leaving before Him there our alms and our heartfelt supplications, we will find mercy and compassion and forgiveness at the benevolent hands of our Eternal Father and His obedient, perfectly pure Son. Then, with Job and all the refined faithful, we will behold a world “too wonderful” to understand. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen." -President Jeffery R. Holland, April 2024 General Conference.
     
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to NeuroTypical in Question concerning “Continuing Revelation”   
    There's also a hefty dose of good old fashioned Old Testament-ey prophetic warnings and calls to action in it:
    The forces working against the family are pretty much everywhere now.  Plenty of voices decrying outdated European models based on an oppressive patriarchy, plenty of sympathetic ears.
     
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to ZealoulyStriving in Question concerning “Continuing Revelation”   
    They may have had their issues also, but they were just coming out of the great apostasy- we have been raised in the truth for, sometimes, multiple generations.
    In spite of their problems, many were sacrificing everything, some including their lives, to follow the truth. We celebrate that we only have to go to church for 2 hours- and some people think even that is still too much. And now their being asked to go to the Temple as often as possible?
    The wheat and tares are coming to maturity. The separation is coming. Those who choose to follow the counsels of Pres. Nelson at this pivotal, at this "hinge point" in the Restoration will be richly blessed. Hold on, be faithful, practice obedience and the desires of your heart for further light and knowledge will be abundantly fulfilled.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to mikbone in Question concerning “Continuing Revelation”   
    I’m pretty sure we have more revelations than any other dispensation.  Other than the City of Enoch perhaps.
    There is great struggle with the Family Proclamation.
    I wish that we were ready for more revelations.  That we could live a higher law.  
    Don’t think we are ready yet.
     
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to NeuroTypical in Eclipse   
    Also, folks in Florida be like:

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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to Suzie in Why is this not in the Inspired Version of the Bible?   
    Thanks, it seems as though there are divided opinions among scholars about this topic. I appreciate the source.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to Vort in No in-betweeners?   
    Indeed, including statements from our leaders during the last fifty or so years that unanimously affirm that this life is the time to prepare to meet God, We have been warned against the philosophy of "eat, drink, and be merry...and it shall be well with us; and if it so be that we are guilty, God will beat us with a few stripes, and at last we shall be saved in the kingdom of God." Jacob goes on to call these "false and vain and foolish doctrines".
    Do not procrastinate the day of your repentance. Don't say, "Oh, celestial is too hard. I'll just live a telestial/terrestrial life. That's good enough, because eventually I'll get there." The truth of the matter is that celestial living is not merely far more rewarding than terrestrial/telestial living; it is EASIER. Show some faith. Believe the prophets and the scriptures. Think celestial.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to Vort in No in-betweeners?   
    I very explicitly disbelieve this. We have been told almost nothing about the lower kingdoms or what covenants are required to enter therein. This is because God wants us to be celestial. Our current prophet and senior apostle has clearly stated that we are to "think celestial". We are not to resign ourselves to a lesser kingdom or start planning for our more modest mansion in the terrestrial regions. The Lord Himself, both during mortality and in His eternal nature, has told us that eternal life—which is to say, exaltation—is the greatest of God's gifts, and that He wants to bestow that gift upon each of His children, and will do so to all who will receive that greatest of gifts.
    No, we do not need a better understanding of a lesser place. We need a better understanding of the celestial realms and, more importantly, a better understanding of what we must know, do, and be in order to gain that exaltation.
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    Still_Small_Voice reacted to Vort in No in-betweeners?   
    Someone has more than a little left to learn about human nature.