Please have a carbon monoxide detector in your home!

[Guest]

This tragedy in Idaho could have been avoided. I don't know why they're not as mandatory as smoke detectors. The family leaves behind 2 missionaries, who are now on the way home.

Four members of Pocatello family found dead in home | KTVB.COM Boise

[Backroads]

This breaks my heart...

[pam]

Oh my gosh...how so sad.

[dahlia]

Saw this on FB and was glad it got posted here. How sad. Just terribly, terribly sad.

I'm trying to get clear on this - I asked previously about praying for the dead and got the feeling I wasn't supposed to, but this situation just calls out for prayer - for the family and for the 2 missionary sons. Why shouldn't I pray for the family that passed away?

[Jenamarie]

How sad.

When we sold our house last year part of getting it ready to pass inspection was making sure there were carbon dioxide detectors in appropriate places.

[Vort]

What a nightmare. I wish I hadn't read this.

[beefche]

I'm trying to get clear on this - I asked previously about praying for the dead and got the feeling I wasn't supposed to, but this situation just calls out for prayer - for the family and for the 2 missionary sons. Why shouldn't I pray for the family that passed away?

I'm not sure why you CAN'T pray for the dead. It's not something I would do, personally, but I don't see why you can't.

I'm not aware of any counsel or anything against doing this.

[Backroads]

I've been praying all morning for those two missionaries.

I see no problem with praying for the family beyond that...

[Backroads]

What a nightmare. I wish I hadn't read this.

I echo this.

Lately I have been having a lot of trouble hearing about deaths.

[Guest]

I didn't mean to upset anyone by posting this. I just really DO think every house should have at least one carbon monoxide detector, and this is why. This almost happened to my brother's family. Thankfully most of them were awake at the time and my brother realized why they were feeling sick and sleepy soon enough to open windows and get them all out.

[MorningStar]

It's the law in our state now to have carbon monoxide detectors. What a heartbreaking story.

Edited February 24, 2014 by MorningStar

[classylady]

I read the news story earlier today. Such a sad event. We have co2 monitors in our home. When I read the news article to my husband he made a comment that he wished we had dual monitors that checked for both co2 and smoke, rather than the separate monitors that we have. Our system is a link system. If our smoke alarm goes off then our co2 alarm goes off. But, I'm just grateful we have a co2 monitor.

As for praying for deceased, I see no harm in that. Their spirits still live on. And isn't our spirits basically, truly, who we are? What's wrong with praying for their peace in leaving their loved ones behind?

[apexviper]

Family found deceased in Pocatello home; carbon monoxide suspected - Local - Mobile Adv

A family was found dead with the cause being carbon monoxide. The parents and two of their children were found. The other 2 children are serving missions. Sister Jensen Parrish is from my mission, the Oregon Portland Mission. I met her just before I left. She is such a sweet young lady and I'm very saddened to hear about this. Please keep the surviving children in your prayers.

[pam]

The article in the Des News says that sister Parrish has such a huge part in their zone conference on Tuesday morning, she asked to stay until it was over and then head home.

What dedication. I'm not sure I could do that if I were in her situation.

[Backroads]

Nor I.

I'm so glad these two have the extended family they do. This is going to be a hard, hard road.

[apexviper]

The article in the Des News says that sister Parrish has such a huge part in their zone conference on Tuesday morning, she asked to stay until it was over and then head home.

What dedication. I'm not sure I could do that if I were in her situation.

I'm honestly not surprised. That's how almost all missionaries are from the Oregon Portland Mission; it's common there. The Atonement is the most emphasized principle in the OPM both with sin and sorrows such as her case. When my grandmother and aunt died I too refused to leave the OPM until my 24 months were done. We learn how to become truly converted to the gospel of Jesus Christ. One missionary's parents was going through a divorce. I had a companion who's 11 year old cousin died. One district leader who's mom died before he left for the mission and his dad died while he was on the mission. To quote Elder Dyches who was the prior mission president in the OPM just as it's still in the OPM Culture, "We do hard things."

Edited February 25, 2014 by apexviper

[pam]

I'm honestly not surprised. That's how almost all missionaries are from the Oregon Portland Mission; it's common there. The Atonement is the most emphasized principle in the OPM both with sin and sorrows such as her case. When my grandmother and aunt died I too refused to leave the OPM until my 24 months were done. We learn how to become truly converted to the gospel of Jesus Christ. One missionary's parents was going through a divorce. I had a companion who's 11 year old cousin died. One district leader who's mom died before he left for the mission and his dad died while he was on the mission. To quote Elder Dyches who was the prior mission president in the OPM just as it's still in the OPM Culture, "We do hard things."

My best friend died about 12 years ago. She had a son who was on a mission at the time. He refused to come home for his mother's funeral. He said there really was nothing he could do. It wouldn't bring her back and he felt that staying in the mission field is something his mother would have wanted him to do. Knowing his mother, I would have to agree.

[apexviper]

My best friend died about 12 years ago. She had a son who was on a mission at the time. He refused to come home for his mother's funeral. He said there really was nothing he could do. It wouldn't bring her back and he felt that staying in the mission field is something his mother would have wanted him to do. Knowing his mother, I would have to agree.

Yep. That's how many people would feel.

[Blackmarch]

this tragedy in idaho could have been avoided. I don't know why they're not as mandatory as smoke detectors. The family leaves behind 2 missionaries, who are now on the way home.

four members of pocatello family found dead in home | ktvb.com boise

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[pam]

Family found deceased in Pocatello home; carbon monoxide suspected - Local - Mobile Adv

A family was found dead with the cause being carbon monoxide. The parents and two of their children were found. The other 2 children are serving missions. Sister Jensen Parrish is from my mission, the Oregon Portland Mission. I met her just before I left. She is such a sweet young lady and I'm very saddened to hear about this. Please keep the surviving children in your prayers.

Except she was in the Washington Vancouver Mission I've discovered.

[Quin]

Yep. That's how many people would feel.

It also delays making it real.

The military forces you to go home when close family dies, except for rare instances, so you can break down there, instead of in the field (also lowers alcohol related & weapons incidents).

AMP,

Q

[applepansy]

I'm not sure why you CAN'T pray for the dead. It's not something I would do, personally, but I don't see why you can't.

I'm not aware of any counsel or anything against doing this.

I don't know of any thing any where that says you can't pray for the dead. However, this family left other family members besides the two missionaries.

This is very sad. We've had carbon monoxide deaths in our area. And when my youngest son was on the swim team we had a carbon monoxide incident at the pool. The janitor at the pool covered the cold air return in the boiler room. The pressure in the room pushed the door open a bit. Because CO is heavier than air it settled on top of the water. It only took minutes for the swimmers to start getting sick. I arrived 10-15 minutes after practice began. Some of the kids were being carried out. Its scary when you realize your training is going to be put to the test in a real life situation. Two kids needed CPR. After the paramedics arrived and things settled down I looked up from the girl I was working on and my son was four feet away. He was one of the first transported to the hospital. I felt so guilty. I'm working on someone else's child while my child was struggling just a few feet away. I'm thankful there were more parents there who knew CPR and what to do. One of the girls had ended up in the hyperbaric machine at the UofU the next day because the CO wouldn't leave her body.

The whole scene looked like a disaster area. It was winter and most of the kids were only in swimming suits (back then boys wore speedos instead of jammers). The neighbors brought out blankets and quilts and towels. We saw real heros that day.

CO detectors are very important but also important is making sure your mechanical room, closet, etc has adequate fresh air return. Do Not Block of the cold air, especially in the winter.

Edited February 26, 2014 by applepansy

[Wingnut]

We recently had photo-electric smoke detectors installed in our home by the local fire department. They asked me if we had a carbon monoxide detector, which we don't. They recommended getting a plug-in variety, rather than a battery-operated one. They also recommended plugging it into an outlet low on a wall, nearer the floor. Unlike smoke, carbon monoxide doesn't rise. A lower detector means faster detection.