Windseeker Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I'm really getting sick of the whole too big to fail thing. Has our society completely abandoned valuing honesty, integrity, honor,responsibility, and other characteristics? Do we just assume everyone is a conniving deceiving liar putting their own social and financial progress before everything. It makes you wonder if it's possible to succeed in this life and be a person of high character. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/06/brian-williams-apology-challenged-why-hes-too-big-to-fail/ I really hope he gets thrown out on his ear. Still_Small_Voice and NightSG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Since the network news shows are losing viewers so quickly (not trying to be cruel, but demographics show that network news viewers are much older than the population in general and they are literally dying off.) I'm not sure it matters. I'm a news junkie and never watch the "big three" networks. They've lost credibility years ago. Edited February 6, 2015 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyTown Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 The fault for these sorts of people getting away with it falls squarely on every man, woman and child who pays more attention to sensationalized news and infotainment rather than actual news. That's it. The 'Report unbiased, complete news' crowd failed miserably last century. They were replaced by what people watched: Infotainment. Glenn Beck, Crossfire... They're just the same as Stephen Colbert and John Stewart with the exception that Colbert and Stewart are more honest about what they're doing. Just_A_Guy and mordorbund 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windseeker Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 The fault for these sorts of people getting away with it falls squarely on every man, woman and child who pays more attention to sensationalized news and infotainment rather than actual news. That's it. The 'Report unbiased, complete news' crowd failed miserably last century. They were replaced by what people watched: Infotainment. Glenn Beck, Crossfire... They're just the same as Stephen Colbert and John Stewart with the exception that Colbert and Stewart are more honest about what they're doing. And despite them being more honest (it's comedy folks...wink wink) people feel it's a more trusted source of news, which is pretty sad. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/22/time-magazine-poll-jon-st_n_242933.html I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) The fault for these sorts of people getting away with it falls squarely on every man, woman and child who pays more attention to sensationalized news and infotainment rather than actual news. That's it. The 'Report unbiased, complete news' crowd failed miserably last century. They were replaced by what people watched: Infotainment. Glenn Beck, Crossfire... They're just the same as Stephen Colbert and John Stewart with the exception that Colbert and Stewart are more honest about what they're doing. I agree, though I would suggest a different causality than what I think you might be implying here. It isn't that people don't want unbiased, complete news. It's just that they finally came to understand that the existing institutions were in fact highly biased and incomplete--their own protestations notwithstanding--and learned to mistrust anyone who claimed to be "unbiased". American news consumers then shrugged and figured that since we've got the band, the cake, and the guests, we may as well have the party--hence the demand for FoxNews, MSNBC, and all the rest. Edited February 6, 2015 by Just_A_Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Brian Williams' shameless lying is yet another blemish on Fox News' already tarnished reputation.What's that, you say? Brian Williams is NBC's anchor? Well, then. Never mind. Fox News is clearly making a far bigger deal of this than it deserves. Just Fox News twisting things to its advantage again. Move along, folks. No story here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Fox News is clearly making a far bigger deal of this than it deserves. Just Fox News twisting things to its advantage again. Move along, folks. No story here. Yes, you are right - Fox News is making a big deal of it for their own aggrandizement. But, I have to disagree that there is "No story here"... this is like a doctor going against his Hippocratic oath. It's a big deal and is a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) I do enjoy a few Fox news personalities-(John Stossel, Judge Andrew Napolitano) but they aren't straight reporters and don't claim to be. And it is a big deal. If you or I did something like this, it comes very close to "stolen valor". Easily among the most repulsive things a person can do. Edited February 6, 2015 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windseeker Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I think it would be refreshing to see a left leaning organization, whether it be the current administration or a news organization to show some responsibility and remove people who show a lack of character or extremely poor judgement. But the fact they don't, demonstrates their opinion of the people they claim to serve/represent. Vort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarVortex Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm hearing about the Brian Williams thing from a lot of news sources, not just Fox News. It's still on the front page of the Huffington Post, which is hardly an organ of GOP propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapikui Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Yes, you are right - Fox News is making a big deal of it for their own aggrandizement. But, I have to disagree that there is "No story here"... this is like a doctor going against his Hippocratic oath. It's a big deal and is a story. I think you missed his sarcasm there. It sounded like he was saying that the rest of the media would be saying it's a big deal if it were a fox news anchor, but since it's a "respected" NBC anchor, that it's nothing and just Fox News trying to discredit the other stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 They're just the same as Stephen Colbert and John Stewart with the exception that Colbert and Stewart are more honest about what they're doing. Somehow Stewart and honest seems like an oxymoron.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSQUIDSTER Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Seems like pretty much just about everything is Op. Ed. these days... People love polemics so much they just tune into the polemics they agree with... Who to believe.... hmmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palerider Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 He should step aside as well we a few Career Politicians that have been caught lying. As for Fox News I enjoy Greta and O'Reilley. Not a fan of Hannity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 When I want news....I mean real news I tune into Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes and Chris Matthews and of course Mr Ed from the Ed show Vort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmarch Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 too big to fail = the bigger they are the harder they fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 He's been suspended for 6 months without pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 He's gone. That six months will turn into a permanent vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Poor guy. His next job will probably be on The View or American Idol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarVortex Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Poor guy. His next job will probably be on The View or American Idol. You're more optimistic than I am, Eowyn. I predict he'll end up either as VP of Media Strategy at Yahoo or as host of his own show on MSNBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 You're more optimistic than I am, Eowyn. I predict he'll end up either as VP of Media Strategy at Yahoo or as host of his own show on MSNBC.Or perhaps a host of Saturday Night Live PolarVortex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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