Joy to the World!?

[zil]

6 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

1) Click into the quoted post.
2) Place your cursor at the end of the line that you wish to address.
3) Hit "Enter" twice. 

As long as there is a carriage return both before and after the cursor, it will split the quote automatically.  This means you may have to hit "Enter", backspace to the previous paragraph, then hit enter twice.  You'll have to try it to see what I mean. 

Oh.  I didn't know that.  E.g.:

• Put your cursor after "3) Hit "Enter" twice."
• Hit "Enter"
• Move your cursor back to after "3) Hit "Enter" twice."
• Hit "Enter" twice and you'll get this:

6 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

1) Click into the quoted post.
2) Place your cursor at the end of the line that you wish to address.
3) Hit "Enter" twice. 

 

6 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

 

As long as there is a carriage return both before and after the cursor, it will split the quote automatically.  This means you may have to hit "Enter", backspace to the previous paragraph, then hit enter twice.  You'll have to try it to see what I mean. 

[zil]

Sometimes hitting enter twice in a row splits the quote.  Sometimes it puts in multiple hard returns.  If it puts in multiple hard returns, moving the cursor back to the end of the line where you started hitting enter, and doing it twice more will definitely split the quote.

If I get more time, I may try to figure out why hitting enter twice doesn't always do the same thing.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, zil said:

Oh.  I didn't know that.  E.g.:

• Put your cursor after "3) Hit "Enter" twice."
• Hit "Enter"
• Move your cursor back to after "3) Hit "Enter" twice."
• Hit "Enter" twice and you'll get this:

 

Yes.  Then you can type a bit between the two portions of a post to respond to a single statement or paragraph.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, zil said:

Sometimes hitting enter twice in a row splits the quote.  Sometimes it puts in multiple hard returns.  If it puts in multiple hard returns, moving the cursor back to the end of the line where you started hitting enter, and doing it twice more will definitely split the quote.

If I get more time, I may try to figure out why hitting enter twice doesn't always do the same thing.

If there is text sitting in front of the cursor, that's the thing that prevents it from splitting the quote.

[zil]

Just now, Carborendum said:

Yes.  Then you can type a bit between the two portions of a post to respond to a single statement or paragraph.

I've always just selected the bit, quoted it, typed; selected the next bit, quoted it, typed; etc.  Now I'll do this when I want to respond "in-line" to a large block of text.

[JohnsonJones]

2 hours ago, Carborendum said:

If there is text sitting in front of the cursor, .

Interesting

2 hours ago, Carborendum said:

that's the thing that prevents it from splitting the quote.

So, that's how it's done...

Never knew about this.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, JohnsonJones said:

Interesting

So, that's how it's done...

Never knew about this.

Great!  Now I have two people doing it.  Too bad Scott hasn't learned this trick yet.  It would save him a lot of work.

[Vort]

You learn something new every day.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Vort said:

You learn something new every day.

That makes three!!  I'm on a roll.

[Vort]

1 minute ago, Carborendum said:

That makes three!!  I'm on a roll.

...waiting for @zil to draw a picture of Carb on a roll...

[Guest]

Just now, Vort said:

...waiting for @zil to draw a picture of Carb on a roll...

Speaking of roll, could you please pass the jelly?

Cue Elvis: Thank you, thank you very much -ehh...

[Vort]

5 minutes ago, Vort said:

...waiting for @zil to draw a picture of Carb on a roll...

Carb...roll...I crack myself up.

[The Folk Prophet]

3 hours ago, Carborendum said:

OK.  Again, just in case you don't know.  The "+" sign next to "Quote" at the bottom is the multi-quote function.  Give it a whirl.  I think you'll find it easier to use than what you've been doing.

And when you want to split up a long post into multiple ones:

1) Click into the quoted post.
2) Place your cursor at the end of the line that you wish to address.
3) Hit "Enter" twice. 

Dang. Who knew?

3 hours ago, Carborendum said:

As long as there is a carriage return both before and after the cursor, it will split the quote automatically.  This means you may have to hit "Enter", backspace to the previous paragraph, then hit enter twice.  You'll have to try it to see what I mean. 

4) Then you can repeat this for every segment of the post you want to separate.

 

[zil]

57 minutes ago, Vort said:

...waiting for @zil to draw a picture of Carb on a roll...

...and you wonder why I haven't gotten to that movie yet...

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

Dang. Who knew?

FORE!!!

I mean, four.  Cool.

[Guest Scott]

5 hours ago, Carborendum said:

OK.  Again, just in case you don't know.  The "+" sign next to "Quote" at the bottom is the multi-quote function.  Give it a whirl.  I think you'll find it easier to use than what you've been doing.

And when you want to split up a long post into multiple ones:

 

OK, got it.   Old habits die hard though; I'll try to remember to use this.

5 hours ago, Carborendum said:

As long as there is a carriage return both before and after the cursor, it will split the quote automatically.  This means you may have to hit "Enter", backspace to the previous paragraph, then hit enter twice.  You'll have to try it to see what I mean. 

4) Then you can repeat this for every segment of the post you want to separate.

 

[SpiritDragon]

On 12/4/2018 at 11:00 AM, Carborendum said:

OK.  Again, just in case you don't know.  The "+" sign next to "Quote" at the bottom is the multi-quote function.  Give it a whirl.  I think you'll find it easier to use than what you've been doing.

And when you want to split up a long post into multiple ones:

1) Click into the quoted post.
2) Place your cursor at the end of the line that you wish to address.
3) Hit "Enter" twice. 

I've never done this before either - had to give it a try.

On 12/4/2018 at 11:00 AM, Carborendum said:

As long as there is a carriage return both before and after the cursor, it will split the quote automatically.  This means you may have to hit "Enter", backspace to the previous paragraph, then hit enter twice.  You'll have to try it to see what I mean. 

4) Then you can repeat this for every segment of the post you want to separate.

Thanks for sharing your forum super powers

[Lindy]

"Joy to the world, the Lord is come;".  sounds Christmas to me.

"Let earth receive her King!"  Sounds Christmas to me.

"Let ev’ry heart prepare him room,".      Ditto

"And (Heaven) Saints and (nature) angels sing",      ditto
"And (Heaven) Saints and (nature) angels sing,"      ditto
And (Heaven) Saints, and (nature) Saints and angels sing"       ditto to the fourth.

I understand the discussions about Christmas vs Second Coming.

 But my two cents is that the very first verse of the song is what I hear most often sang during the Christmas season.

The Lord has been born! Let us receive Him..... our King! Let us all bring Him into our hearts and join Heaven and the entire world in singing our joy and love for Him!

I will sing Joy to the World as a Christmas song, and will be happy to join Heaven, nature, saints and angels at His Second Coming too! :-) 

[M Ross]

I see the first verse as being a hopeful description of His birth and His second coming - dual meaning.  And thus we revere it as a Christmas anthem in the same way that we revere the song We Thank Thee O God For a Prophet as a tribute to our living prophet.  You may have already noticed that the only reference to a prophet in that hymn is found in the first few words.  Yet it still inspires gratitude for a prophet.  

[zil2]

On 12/3/2018 at 7:37 PM, zil said:

...This isn't a Christmas hymn! ... this one is about the Second Coming! 

I am vindicated!!   Rawr!  🐲  While studying D&C 25, I decided to go see which of our current hymns were in Emma's original hymn book.  This is one.  Here's the start of this hymn from back then:

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Joy to the world! the Lord will come!

And earth receive her King;

vs today:

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Joy to the world, the Lord is come;

Let earth receive her King!

Ha!  Someone took a clear Second Coming hymn and morphed it into a somewhat Christmas hymn!  But this was designed as a Second Coming hymn!  The current lyrics will remain wrong until the Second Coming!

ETA: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/collection-of-sacred-hymns-1835/23

Edited March 20 by zil2

[Carborendum]

The Church still has those lyrics:  Joy to the World

• The original was by Isaac Watts who used "is".
• W. W. Phelps re-wrote the lyrics to the version you presented.

I like the Phelps version better because it is for our dispensation.  Just look at the commentary:

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In Genesis 3, one of the great tragedies in all of Scripture occurs. Adam and Eve sin against God, and are banished from the garden as God puts a curse upon the ground. It is a heartbreaking rupture in God’s perfect creation, and it is hard not to read this text without feeling a twinge of despair. And yet, before the curse comes a promise. God declares that the woman shall bear offspring that will crush the head of the serpent. Jesus, the Son of Man and Son of God, will come to break the curse, to renew the creation, to make whole what is now broken.

In Psalm 98, all of creation is called upon to make a joyful noise before God, for the Lord has come to “judge the earth,” and restore His Creation. We should not fail to see our own hand at work in the destruction of creation, in our sins of waste and decadence. This “judgment of the earth” is, in some part, a judgment of us as caretakers. But God is merciful and full of grace, and rather than leave everything in our hands, He gives us the Life-giver. In this beautiful hymn, Isaac Watts makes the connection between the coming of Christ into this world and the beginning of that restoration. Christ brings “joy to the world,” a light where there is darkness, growth where there is decay. And we, along with all Creation, respond with a song of praise.

The intent of the Psalm was to look forward to the Lord's 1st coming.  And the ancient Jews fully expected the Messiah to transform the earth at that time.  But that was a misreading of the prophecies.  The world as they knew it did not really change so completely as they expected.

During the post-reformation era, they wrote songs that looked back on the event that the ancient Jews looked forward to.  Thus, Watts used lyrics to indicate the event already happened.

But with the restoration of the gospel, we now look forward to the 2nd coming.  And that will be the time of complete transformation where ...

No more let sins and sorrows grow,
Nor thorns infest the ground;

And heav'n and nature will indeed sing.

Edited March 20 by Carborendum

[zil2]

There go those Latter-day Saints, fixin' stuff the world didn't know was broken!

[NeuroTypical]

5 hours ago, zil2 said:

I am vindicated!!   Rawr!  🐲

6 years?  You've earned a victory lap.