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3 hours ago, NeuroTypical said:

Love it. My favorite part was at the end in the footer:

It took all my powers as a typist not to write, “Winter is coming.” 

My favorite joke about liberal bias in the MSM came from Bernie Goldberg, himself no liberal.
 

“Conservatives take liberal bias in the media too far. Al Roker is not out to get you when he forecasts rain on the fourth of July.” 

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5 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

You've got it all wrong.  Roker isn't out to get me, because of my white privilege.  But according to progressives, weather is racist.  And not just TikTok millennial progressives either.  We're talking institutional entrenched mainstream progressives.

Right, they are jackasses too. Being a fool is universal. Having said that, pre-Trump conservatives could generally laugh at themselves and most on the left could not do the same. 

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Nikki Haley has a lot of Democrat money in her coffers.  I highly doubt I would vote for her.  She would probably side with the global, elite tyrants and keep pushing their control agenda.

Meanwhile we have a lot of Chinese pouring over our open border into this country.  Train and arm them and you have a small, hostile army inside America ready for action.  It won't be small either if the border continues to stay open for whoever to invade.

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1 hour ago, Still_Small_Voice said:

Nikki Haley has a lot of Democrat money in her coffers.  I highly doubt I would vote for her.  She would probably side with the global, elite tyrants and keep pushing their control agenda.

Meanwhile we have a lot of Chinese pouring over our open border into this country.  Train and arm them and you have a small, hostile army inside America ready for action.  It won't be small either if the border continues to stay open for whoever to invade.

99.9% of the “Chinese” that are illegal immigrants are here for a new life in America. Not for armed insurrection. 

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1 hour ago, LDSGator said:

99.9% of the “Chinese” that are illegal immigrants are here for a new life in America. Not for armed insurrection. 

There is no way to tell.  We do not research any of these invaders coming in.  At best they are here for a better life.  At worst they are here to loot the citizen's treasury, traffic in illegal drugs, slave trade and/or bring horrid change to America.

If you cease to have borders, you will cease to be a nation in the future as you will lose control of your country.

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4 hours ago, Still_Small_Voice said:

Nikki Haley has a lot of Democrat money in her coffers.  I highly doubt I would vote for her.  She would probably side with the global, elite tyrants and keep pushing their control agenda.

Honestly, Haley has a better chance of defeating Biden than Trump does, mostly because leftists aren't threatened enough by her to reluctantly keep Biden in office if she's the alternative.

4 hours ago, Still_Small_Voice said:

Meanwhile we have a lot of Chinese pouring over our open border into this country.  Train and arm them and you have a small, hostile army inside America ready for action.

Occam's Razor is dead, I suppose. RIP.

4 hours ago, Still_Small_Voice said:

 It won't be small either if the border continues to stay open for whoever to invade.

There's currently a bipartisan border security bill in the Senate that has the full backing of the USBP and would probably get enough Dem votes in both houses to pass. The GOP is trying their best to bury it in order to prevent giving Biden a win on border security.

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21 minutes ago, Phoenix_person said:

There's currently a bipartisan border security bill in the Senate that has the full backing of the USBP and would probably get enough Dem votes in both houses to pass. The GOP is trying their best to bury it in order to prevent giving Biden a win on border security.

No bipartisan bill for American border security is needed.  Biden could shut down the invasion very soon at the border if he wanted to.  He reversed the border security and threw the door open for anyone to enter very soon after he was put into office.  He has the authority to do it.

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18 minutes ago, Still_Small_Voice said:

 No bipartisan bill for American border security is needed.  Biden could shut down the invasion very soon at the border if he wanted to.  He reversed the border security and threw the door open for anyone to enter very soon after he was put into office.  He has the authority to do it.

It was Republicans who insisted on tying border security legislation to aid for Israel and Ukraine. And from a purely political standpoint, it makes more sense to go through Congress for two reasons: 1) it forces the GOP to vote on one of the biggest issues on their platform during an election year while a Dem is in office to take credit for it, and 2) Biden is already unpopular on the left. Using executive action to close the border would make that worse. Going through Congress won't exactly make him popular either, but at least this way he can play the "compromise" card. 

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4 hours ago, LDSGator said:

99.9% of the “Chinese” that are illegal immigrants are here for a new life in America. Not for armed insurrection. 

Well, let’s work the math.  ~37,000 Chinese national apprehensions at the border last year. Maybe that many again got through without being apprehended. That makes ~74,000 entered our country illegally last year. If 99.9% of them are not here for nefarious evil, that means .1% of them are, which means last year ~74 murderous malign evil bad Chinese bad people came into our country last year, intent on nefarious stuff.

Maths.

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12 hours ago, NeuroTypical said:

Well, let’s work the math.  ~37,000 Chinese national apprehensions at the border last year. Maybe that many again got through without being apprehended. That makes ~74,000 entered our country illegally last year. If 99.9% of them are not here for nefarious evil, that means .1% of them are, which means last year ~74 murderous malign evil bad Chinese bad people came into our country last year, intent on nefarious stuff.

Maths.

Math indeed.
 

This is yet another crazy story that will be forgotten in six weeks. Thinking that the Chinese have sleeper cells in America shows a cute imagination, and no actual sense how the Chinese government works. If there really was a Chinese plan to arm immigrants against our government, they’d come in nice and legally. The last thing they would want is a risky plan to cross the border. And you wouldn’t be hearing about it either. 

But out of all the things to worry about, this is dead last. 

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Yeah, I don't care about Red Dawn notions of armed incursion.  (The original was ok, the remake was boring.)   But there are endless valid and real reasons nations sneak people into other nations where they operate covertly.  And there are also endless valid and real reasons nations worry about the various impacts of illegal immigration.  If you like our culture,  standards of living, economy, and institutions and want to preserve them, there's plenty of cause to worry about the impact all of it has on that stuff. 

History is fascinating.  They tell me the reason our southern border is so porous, has to do with the terms they agreed to during the last US Mexican war in 1847.   The US won pretty soundly, but was still in the process of inventing itself, and there were several American opinions at odds with each other.  How a lot of the frontier lands were going to get populated , who got to be a "US Settler", how would citizenship work, etc.  In the end, we signed treaties that officially made it illegal to be illegal, but everyone knew the border would see a lot of migration.  There's been a flow back and forth ever since, especially seasonal as the US became a major food producer.

Trump wants to do what he's done in the past, build another massive monument to his ego with a solid gold TRUMP on it to make sure he goes down in the history books as building the wall.  But his ego aside, there are plenty of good nonTrump, non-ego-driven reasons to have a robust southern border with tall walls and wide gates with good immigration laws.  The wall is one component to that. 

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16 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

If you like our culture,  standards of living, economy, and institutions and want to preserve them, there's plenty of cause to worry about the impact all of it has on that stuff. 

I love all that. In fact, why I lean towards the open borders side of the debate is because I think America is so special and wonderful that everyone should be able to take part in it. We do need border security, I’m not against that. I’m against alarmism and false stories about Chinese invasions though. Got me there. 

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5 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

I’m against alarmism and false stories about Chinese invasions though. Got me there. 

That just means you need to watch more movies!  And it ain't just humans - it's the dang aliens!

https://www.ranker.com/list/best-movies-about-america-being-invaded/ranker-film

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Legal immigration.  If we need to reform some laws on how that works, I'm okay with that.  What is going on now is unacceptable.

 

There are terrorists that have used our current "not really a border policy" to enter our country.  If you think they do not have ulterior motives you are an idiot.

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"Wherefore, honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to uphold; otherwise whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil" D&C 98:10

For that reason I can't support either the reds or blues.

 

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