Woke Shoots Itself In The Foot

[Carborendum]

Once upon a time, Florida passed the STOP WOKE ACT.

As you can imagine, wokesters hated the act.  They talked about it in such hateful terms that all their constituents believed it was the end of the world if it passed.  Well, it passed.

As it happened, a Federal judge said that this can only apply to state-run institutions.  Private organizations need to make up their own minds about this topic.  OK.  Not ideal.  But a reasonable compromise.

The wokesters thought, nah.  We'll take the whole thing or keep yelling and screaming to anyone who will listen.  So, they kept yelling and screaming about how terrible the act was to the only people who would listen (other wokesters).  And they sure got the message.  "It is the end of the world."

They got the message so strongly that they stopped donating to DEI activist groups.  These groups are wondering why their revenues dropped by 50%.  How are they supposed to make a living if they can't rile people up into a hate-filled frenzy about how oppressed they are?

Edited January 3 by Carborendum

[NeuroTypical]

Interesting how the pendulum swings.  Change the names to New York Times and MSNBC, and it's still true.

[Carborendum]

1 hour ago, NeuroTypical said:

Interesting how the pendulum swings.

I didn't really get that this was a pendulum swinging issue. It was a mis-messaging due to the angry (and deceptive) rhetoric.

It was the fact that they could have accepted a compromise, but they chose to continue protesting.  And because of their excessive protests, the donors were convinced that their donations were now illegal.

[Traveler]

To those that think the woke left is shooting themselves in the foot.  You are missing the bigger picture.  The best method to realize how wrong any political notion is – is to give that political movement the power to put their proclaimed agenda into law.  What will be discovered is that there is a difference between the proclaimed agenda and the actual political agenda.  The work of politics it to shoot themselves in the foot and then to cover it up or blame the opposition.

It is my particular wish that the liberals (democrats, left wing or whatever) will vigorously oppose ever possible effort of the conservatives (republican, right wing or whatever).  Strong opposition will make it difficult for those conservatives in power to enact even the most needed steps of their agenda.  ----  And make it impossible to enact and all the extra or more extreme notions.

 

The Traveler

[Phoenix_person]

13 hours ago, NeuroTypical said:

Interesting how the pendulum swings.  Change the names to New York Times and MSNBC, and it's still true.

They literally do exactly that too. 😂 Nothing says "I'm being silenced" like tweeting a link from the NY Post to your 500k+ Twitter followers shortly after appearing on Fox News to discuss the same topic.

Edited January 4 by Phoenix_person

[Just_A_Guy]

10 hours ago, Phoenix_person said:

They literally do exactly that too. 😂 Nothing says "I'm being silenced" like tweeting a link from the NY Post to your 500k+ Twitter followers shortly after appearing on Fox News to discuss the same topic.

Isn’t the Post the paper that had its pre-Musk Twitter account suspended (allegedly at the FBI’s behest) for saying stuff about Hunter Biden that turned out to be true?

[Ironhold]

5 hours ago, Just_A_Guy said:

Isn’t the Post the paper that had its pre-Musk Twitter account suspended (allegedly at the FBI’s behest) for saying stuff about Hunter Biden that turned out to be true?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy

That was indeed the case.

For those who aren't aware, weeks before the 2020 election the New York Post ran a story claiming that Hunter Biden had left a laptop at a computer repair facility for so long that the store's "pick it up within X amount of time or we own it" policy kicked in. The owner cloned the hard drive so that he had a backup of the data, the idea being that he could otherwise purge and do a factory-level refresh of the computer to sell it as a used device in order to recover his expenses in fixing it. The story further went that when the owner was going through the data on the cloned hard drive, he discovered significant evidence that Hunter Biden had engaged in numerous illegal activities and might have even been involved in a kickback scheme involving his father. 

When the Post published the information, Facebook and Twitter responded by locking their accounts, hastily declaring the material to be "Russian disinformation", and refusing to unlock the accounts until such time as the Post agreed to retract the story and delete all references to it. 

In the four years since then, it's been confirmed that the information did indeed come from a computer Hunter owned, that it did indeed show him engaged in various illegal activities (such as the consumption of illicit substances), that the story was essentially real, and that there *was* an active effort on the part of various individuals both at those companies *and* inside the government to suppress the story ahead of the election. 

IIRC, some of this material was actually used as evidence in the legal case against Hunter. 

It's undeniable that this story was forcibly suppressed in order to help Biden win in 2020, and the fact that most of the allegations have retroactively been confirmed to some degree has fed the overall conspiracy theory claiming that 2020 was stolen. Throw in Biden's blanket pardon of Hunter despite his promise, and it's now believed that Biden may indeed have been trying to cover something up. 

[NeuroTypical]

20 hours ago, Phoenix_person said:

They literally do exactly that too.

It's me.  I'm "they".  I got an account violation ding from Facebook for sharing a link to a New York Post article, and I have never shut up about it.  I probably never will.

These are some of the screen grabs I took when Facebook was silencing me:

 

 

This is me, making a huge dang spectacle of myself when the most popular social media platform on the planet was taking marching orders from the government on who to cherry-pick for a ban:

 

And in case you missed it, here are some links to the investigative journalism that exposed the Biden/FB conspiracy to silence certain opiners:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-white-house-pressured-facebook-to-censor-some-covid-19-content-during-the-pandemic
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/08/28/facebook-censorship-covid-biden-harris-social-media/74966270007/

And let's not forget when Twitter was taking marching orders from the FBI:

https://oversight.house.gov/release/the-cover-up-big-tech-the-swamp-and-mainstream-media-coordinated-to-censor-americans-free-speech-/
https://www.thefire.org/news/yes-you-should-be-worried-about-fbis-relationship-twitter
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/24/fbi-contacts-social-media-inspector-general-doj/
https://www.wsj.com/video/series/opinion-review-and-outlook/wsj-opinion-twitter-and-the-fbi-censorship-subsidiary/E292F2B0-22C5-4A96-A7C0-784F36B96490

 

If it's ok with you, I'll use every platform that'll allow me, to spread the message about the evils of government censorship, and how me and mine were being actively silenced by both elected and unelected officials.

I'm hoping this post will help you reflect on how smart it is to laugh at someone you can hear, when they're complaining about being silenced by the government.

 

And finally, to tie my rant into the point of this thread, there is an obvious difference between government-run entities not saying things, and the government suppressing people and organizations from saying things.    Please let me know if you disagree or feel the distinction isn't that important.  I'd love to hear your reasoning. 

Edited January 5 by NeuroTypical

[NeuroTypical]

 

It's certainly losing steam.

[Carborendum]

17 hours ago, NeuroTypical said:

 

It's certainly losing steam.

These are records of people's phone calls.  Just how much of our conversations are being recorded?

[NeuroTypical]

1 hour ago, Carborendum said:

These are records of people's phone calls.

No, "Corporate calls" refers to things like earnings calls, investor calls, board of director meetings, and such. 

I mean, if you work for corporate America, you should assume everything you do with their computers, on their network, using their phone, is being monitored by security.  But that's not where the chart came from.

[Carborendum]

Megyn Kelly recently "celebrated" the fact that "American Culture" seems to be returning to normal... well...

The example she gave was that Carl's Jr. is going back to the NSFW type commercials like they have in the past (as shown at the Super Bowl).  Is this a good thing?

I'd suppose if we're left with only two options, it is a lesser of two evils.  But it is still pretty bad.

[Ironhold]

50 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

Megyn Kelly recently "celebrated" the fact that "American Culture" seems to be returning to normal... well...

The example she gave was that Carl's Jr. is going back to the NSFW type commercials like they have in the past (as shown at the Super Bowl).  Is this a good thing?

I'd suppose if we're left with only two options, it is a lesser of two evils.  But it is still pretty bad.

The more free a society is, the more free it is to make questionable decisions. 

[LDSGator]

3 hours ago, Ironhold said:

The more free a society is, the more free it is to make questionable decisions. 

Perfectly said. 

[Carborendum]

14 hours ago, Ironhold said:

The more free a society is, the more free it is to make questionable decisions. 

I can't argue with that. 

And that is the main thing I was voting for.  Trump certainly isn't an example of chastity.

Edited February 11 by Carborendum

[LDSGator]

4 hours ago, Carborendum said:

And that is the main thing I was voting for.  Trump certainly isn't an example of chastity.

Most Trump voters I have talked to describe Trump like they do chemo for cancer. It gets the job done, but in an ugly and brutal fashion. They wish there was another alternative that worked, but there isn’t. 
 

Having said that, I’ve met a few hardcore Trump fans who either ignore or defend his personal life like he was their father.  

[NeuroTypical]

19 hours ago, Carborendum said:

The example she gave was that Carl's Jr. is going back to the NSFW type commercials like they have in the past

I'm content watching the entire civilized world, including the UN, finally start to realize that men/boys don't belong in womens/girls sports/showers/prisons/locker rooms.

That's some returning sanity worth celebrating.  And absolutely zero disrespecting transgender people needed.

Edited February 11 by NeuroTypical

[LDSGator]

12 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

I'm content watching the entire civilized world, including the UN, finally start to realize that men/boys don't belong in womens/girls sports/showers/prisons/locker rooms.

That's some returning sanity worth celebrating.  And absolutely zero disrespecting transgender people needed.

I have a few liberal friends (one I met here!) that break from liberalism on this issue.