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    bytebear reacted to NeuroTypical in President Trumps Inagural Address   
    So, a few years back, my company was losing money, customers, market share, and more money.  The board of directors brought in an executive from the outside.  Someone good at 'right sizing'.  He slashed divisions, laid off people right and left, got us out of this or that business and product line, wrecked a bunch of heritage, broke a bunch of the traditions, sold our precious holiday property.  Just about everyone had an opinion about him, and most of them sounded like some of the critics I hear talking about Trump.  All critical laundry lists of his failings and character defects and why he was a bad guy and needed to fail.

    2 years later, we all rejoiced as he left the company and we all returned to sanity.  We returned to health and profitability soon after. Now, a decade later, people don't even speak his name now.  I don't think anybody will ever admit he did what needed doing, with the objectivity nobody else had.

    It is my sincere hope that Trump will do the same thing to the federal government.  
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    bytebear got a reaction from Vort in Arrival   
    I thought the message was "If you could change your past, to avoid future pain, would you?"  It just did it in a very roundabout way, using alien communication as a way to move the story.   That's the best explanation I can give without spoilers.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Vort in Favorite church songs!   
    The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_of_God_Like_a_Fire_Is_Burning#Lyrics_and_commentary
    It's a great testimony of the greatness of the restoration,.   And it has an awesome Hosanna shout.
     
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    bytebear reacted to anatess2 in Arrival   
    I'm thinking not necessarily change the past but more like.... If you know there's pain in the future would you still choose to love?
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    bytebear got a reaction from Sunday21 in Favorite church songs!   
    The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_of_God_Like_a_Fire_Is_Burning#Lyrics_and_commentary
    It's a great testimony of the greatness of the restoration,.   And it has an awesome Hosanna shout.
     
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    bytebear got a reaction from zil in Eternal Progression- Another Perspective   
    I agree with God is akin to infinity. If a person becomes God, it's just infinity + 1.  There is still only one God.  But I do think that when speaking in scripture, He is referring to God the Father, a specific individual whom they relate.  When He says there are no other gods, He isn't referring to exalted perfected persons who are one with God.  He is referring to Ra, Isis, Odin, and Zeus.
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    bytebear got a reaction from a mustard seed in Favorite church songs!   
    The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_of_God_Like_a_Fire_Is_Burning#Lyrics_and_commentary
    It's a great testimony of the greatness of the restoration,.   And it has an awesome Hosanna shout.
     
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    bytebear got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Ant-Mormon MIL over for Christmas   
    I agree with the first response. Just treat her like a child, and say, you can do what you want, but we're doing this.  Take it or leave it.  And then ignore her protests. A friend of mine was like this on just about everything.  What movie to see, what tv show to watch, what restaurant to eat at, where to sit in the restaurant, etc etc...  So I learned to just force him to adjust to the situation.  Honestly, I don't think it's just about the church, but that does make an easy agitator.  But she seems to get a thrill out of forcing you to her will and to see how far you will compromise to appease her. So, the best thing is to give clear choices, and let her choose.
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    bytebear reacted to anatess2 in Can we really become gods?   
    @Larry Cotrell @Carborendum @MarginOfError
    I have a suggestion.  Trying to make something fit a Label is always a bad thing.  A label is supposed to name something.  Making something fit the name is an exercise in futility.
    Making the Godhead fit a pre-restoration man-made label gets you nowhere.  It is a Godhead.  We all understand what it implies (or so I hope).  No need to make it fit whatever theistic model just so you can label it.
     
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    bytebear reacted to anatess2 in Can we really become gods?   
    Completely irrelevant to the usage of the word God that Vort and Bytebear were discussing.
    And no, you don't get to be appointed God.  You attain it.  The confusion comes when people make it more complicated than it is... like introducing terms such as LEGAL God.
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    bytebear reacted to anatess2 in Can we really become gods?   
    I didn't read any of the responses as I'm in a hurry.  But I just want to point out a VERY IMPORTANT RESTORED principle that separated the LDS Faith from the rest of mainstream Christianity.  We believe in ONE God.  We believe there are 3 Persons in that One God.  BUT as opposed to mainstream Christianity, we believe that what makes God God is not his "being" (ousia) but his WILL.
    Therefore, 3 Persons being Gods - Father, Son, Holy Ghost - does not contradict ONE GOD as they have the EXACT SAME WILL in perfect unity with perfect knowledge.
    100 Persons being Gods - Father, Son, Holy Ghost, and 97 of earthly people who has achieved perfect unity in Will with the Father with perfect knowledge - does not contradict ONE GOD.
    Basically - the number of persons in that Godhead does not make multiple Gods.  They still constitute One God.
    So, can we be Gods (capital G.  Small g is not God, e.g. Baal is a small g god)?  YES.  IF you achieve perfect unity of WILL with the Father after gaining perfect knowledge, you will be God - becoming a person in that Godhead.
    Make sense?
    P.S.  The missionaries do not avoid teaching it.  It is a VERY IMPORTANT RESTORED principle.  It is even taught in the Gospel Principles class.  The problem though is, it is very difficult for an investigator, especially one with a Trinitarian background to understand the concept of Persons other than The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in that One God when they see the Oneness of God as a specific species that is not the same as us humans.  So, they concentrate the discussion on understanding what makes God a God even as God is the exact same species us us humans instead of humans becoming God.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Can we really become gods?   
    No, you become one family.  The word "family" is a singular that represents multiple persons.  Similarly the word "God" represents a singular entity that is not a single person.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Maureen in Can we really become gods?   
    No, you become one family.  The word "family" is a singular that represents multiple persons.  Similarly the word "God" represents a singular entity that is not a single person.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Sunday21 in New Year's Eve plans?   
    Game night potluck with family and friends.
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    bytebear got a reaction from pam in New Year's Eve plans?   
    Game night potluck with family and friends.
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    bytebear got a reaction from yjacket in Mormon Social Justice Warriors up in arms about the Mormon Tabernacle Choir   
    The problem I have is when you look at the folks outraged and are "ashamed of my church" are the same ones who want female ordination, gay marriage, abortion to be acceptable and a dozen other things that the church stands against.  No, they are not ashamed.  They are opportunists.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Backroads in Mormon Social Justice Warriors up in arms about the Mormon Tabernacle Choir   
    The problem I have is when you look at the folks outraged and are "ashamed of my church" are the same ones who want female ordination, gay marriage, abortion to be acceptable and a dozen other things that the church stands against.  No, they are not ashamed.  They are opportunists.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Mormon Social Justice Warriors up in arms about the Mormon Tabernacle Choir   
    The problem I have is when you look at the folks outraged and are "ashamed of my church" are the same ones who want female ordination, gay marriage, abortion to be acceptable and a dozen other things that the church stands against.  No, they are not ashamed.  They are opportunists.
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    bytebear got a reaction from NightSG in Mormon Social Justice Warriors up in arms about the Mormon Tabernacle Choir   
    The problem I have is when you look at the folks outraged and are "ashamed of my church" are the same ones who want female ordination, gay marriage, abortion to be acceptable and a dozen other things that the church stands against.  No, they are not ashamed.  They are opportunists.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Vort in Mormon Social Justice Warriors up in arms about the Mormon Tabernacle Choir   
    The problem I have is when you look at the folks outraged and are "ashamed of my church" are the same ones who want female ordination, gay marriage, abortion to be acceptable and a dozen other things that the church stands against.  No, they are not ashamed.  They are opportunists.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Sunday21 in Faith Promoting Book   
    I am amazed how many of Joseph Smith's notions that are non-traditional seem so clear scripturally. Just the way the word "saint" is used Biblically is enough to tell me he had something there.
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    bytebear got a reaction from unixknight in I'm Really Trying to be Understanding   
    This is what I have discovered about high priced things. 
    1. There is a level or rich that makes anything affordable.
    2. Rich people buy expensive things as an investment, as they rarely decrease in value, and so they aren't actually purchasing anything, just renting something with a very large deposit.
    3. Items are expensive, not because they are intrinsically valuable, but because the cost makes them precious.  An example is the Mona Lisa.  It's only worth the canvas and the paints, and can be fairly easily reproduced for a minimal amount of money.  So, the cost to make or have something that is essentially the same thing, can be achieved.  But, because it is unique, and precious, it is to be preserved.  Someone could buy it, and burn it. If it cost only $100 to purchase, someone might. Or they might hang it in their bathroom, or accidentally leave it outside.  It would be destroyed, except that the price causes the owner to take special care to keep it.  And if they sell it, they want it in the hands of someone who will also have the means and desire to preserve it.  So they price it so high, that only those who will take special care that it not be destroyed are the caretakers of it.
    4. There is a certain level of tribal posturing in owning expensive things. You don't buy a Tesla because it is a particularly better ride, or because it's so good on gas mileage, that you are saving money.  No, you buy it to look cool.
     
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    bytebear got a reaction from seashmore in Finding out your kid used to be a bully and dealing with everyone involved   
    I grew up in a ward full of "popular girls" and was one of only two boys.  It was awful, honestly.  We had a Youth activity where we were supposed to go on a scavenger hunt around the neighborhood and eventually meet back at the church for donuts.  We were in two teams, the populars and the rest of us.  Anyway, we did all of our tasks and when we finally got back to the church, the donuts had been eaten and a note said, "We got bored after the first thing, so came back early.  Have a good night."  I think the worst part was their guide was an adult.  Took a lot of prayer to forgive that one.  Please, stand up to bullies!
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    bytebear got a reaction from Maureen in Moroni, Elijah and Joseph Smith   
    I can usually tell the 1960s buildings too, which also had a common design and theme.  It's funny because you occasionally see old Mormon churches from that era that are now owned by other churches, so it's odd seeing an LDS building but then you see "Seventh Day Adventist" signs on it.  There is (or was) a bed and breakfast in Park City which is in an old church building.   Rumor has it, the baptismal font is now a hot tub.
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    bytebear got a reaction from Anddenex in Requirements for baptism   
    Well, first I look at the Topical Guide because it's awesome.  But two things are repeated quite a bit.  Believe/faith which I think includes a testimony of the restored Gospel.  and second, a willingness to enter the body of believers, which applies specifically to the restored Gospel.  One can be baptized by any number of churches, but the covenant we believe in, includes a dedication and faith in the restored gospel, and the priesthood keys that we claim.  So, having a belief in the current prophet is a faith that he has the keys of authority and that this is the true Church of Christ.. 
    https://www.lds.org/scriptures/tg/baptism-qualifications-for?lang=eng
    Baptism, Qualifications for
    Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: Matt. 3:8 . ( Luke 3:7–8 . ) baptized … in the river … confessing: Mark 1:5 . He that believeth and is baptized: Mark 16:16 . Repent, and be baptized: Acts 2:38 . they that gladly received his word were baptized: Acts 2:41 . If thou believest with all thine heart: Acts 8:37 . Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ: Acts 16:31 . the baptism of repentance: Acts 19:4 . be baptized … having perfect faith: 2 Ne. 9:23 . witnesseth … he would be obedient: 2 Ne. 31:7 . witness … ye have entered into a covenant: Mosiah 18:10 . baptized as a witness … willing to serve God: Mosiah 21:35 . whosoever is baptized … shall believe in my name: Mosiah 26:22 . who repented of their sins: Alma 6:2 . must repent, and be born again: Alma 7:14 . as many as did believe were baptized: Alma 19:35 . whoso repenteth … and desireth to be baptized: 3 Ne. 11:23 . become as a little child: 3 Ne. 11:38 . See that ye are not baptized unworthily: Morm. 9:29 . came forth with a broken heart and a contrite spirit: Moro. 6:2 . took upon them the name of Christ, having a determination to serve: Moro. 6:3 . who humble themselves … and desire to be baptized: D&C 20:37 . arrived unto the years of accountability: D&C 20:71 . children shall be baptized … when eight years old: D&C 68:27 . received the testimony of Jesus, and believed on his name: D&C 76:51 . all men … must repent: Moses 6:57 .