prisonchaplain

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    prisonchaplain reacted to zil2 in After Death the movie   
    Amen, brother!
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Vort in After Death the movie   
    To be clear, I was suggesting that the devil is behind the shift, not Angel Studios. Further, I would argue that standard time is God's answer to the devil's innovation--daylight time. 😁
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    prisonchaplain reacted to zil2 in After Death the movie   
    I know nothing about the movie, but if you mean DST, then yes, he is. 
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Carborendum in Problems with church   
    You know, I thought that you had said it all so perfectly in the OP that I didn't see the need to add or detract from it.
    All that remained was some comic relief thread jack.  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Problems with church   
    Gen Z to Boomer: I have some concerns about the church.
    Boomer to Gen Z: Really? Let me tell you some French/Spanish jokes.

     That's all you have to say?
    I think this thread has  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Carborendum in Problems with church   
    Churches sometimes have problems--aspects that outsiders criticize and aspects that older teenagers and young adults find more difficult to accept than past generations did. Examples:
    1. Politics are too conservative: Both of our churches lean right. The last U.S. president was particularly difficult for some to stomach. My short answer is that how members vote, despite their insistence to the contrary, is more a mark of their politics than it is a religious distinctive. The #1 reason many in my fellowship vote conservative is that they are prolife. Members will sometimes say, "I don't know how a true Christian could vote for a proabortion politician." They can say that, but there is no political litmus test in church.
    2. Church doesn't do enough for the environment. My church might be especially guilty on this because we believe Jesus will return at any time. So, some members disregard environmentalism. Nevertheless, "creation care," is something Christians of many stripes embrace. We may not be the most earth friendly, but taking care of what God made is scriptural.
    3. Sexual holiness codes are hypocritical and especially hurtful to LGBT. First, they are not hypocritical. Adultery, fornication, and porn viewing are all sinful. We don't talk as much about this because very few Christians are advocating porn viewing, fornication or adultery. They know it is sinful even if it happens a lot. We love LGBT folks, just as we love those who fornicate, commit adultery, or view porn. Nevertheless, if there is sin the call is to repentance--not affirmation.
    4. History: The two biggest TV evangelist scandals of the 1980s were of Assemblies of God ministers--Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker. What most don't know is that both men were defrocked. We don't speak ill of them. What they do is now between them and God. As a result, some believe that they faced no accountability. They did. Rather than submit to our restoration process they gave up their ministers' credentials.
    5. Overemphasis on doctrinal distinctives. Usually this has to do with our belief that speaking in tongues is the initial, physical evidence that one has been baptized in the Holy Spirit. This is our teaching, and the belief can be explained biblically. However, we're quick to add that when people convert to Christianity they immediately walk with the Holy Spirit, and many will enter the kingdom who have not and will not speak in tongues. 
    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints faces many of these broad issues. Some can be answered fairly quickly. Nevertheless, there seems to be lingering struggles. What we grapple with is different, but there are some similarities. Call this a commiseration string.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Carborendum in Problems with church   
    Gen Z to Boomer: I have some concerns about the church.
    Boomer to Gen Z: Really? Let me tell you some French/Spanish jokes.

     That's all you have to say?
    I think this thread has  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from MrShorty in Problems with church   
    Gen Z to Boomer: I have some concerns about the church.
    Boomer to Gen Z: Really? Let me tell you some French/Spanish jokes.

     That's all you have to say?
    I think this thread has  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Backroads in Problems with church   
    Funny...different story, but funny. Of course, that miracle wine was literally glorified grape juice. Unfertilized wine had about a 4% alcohol content after typical dilution--about 1/3rd of today's variety. 😉 
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Traveler in Problems with church   
    Gen Z to Boomer: I have some concerns about the church.
    Boomer to Gen Z: Really? Let me tell you some French/Spanish jokes.

     That's all you have to say?
    I think this thread has  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from LDSGator in Problems with church   
    Gen Z to Boomer: I have some concerns about the church.
    Boomer to Gen Z: Really? Let me tell you some French/Spanish jokes.

     That's all you have to say?
    I think this thread has  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from zil2 in Problems with church   
    Gen Z to Boomer: I have some concerns about the church.
    Boomer to Gen Z: Really? Let me tell you some French/Spanish jokes.

     That's all you have to say?
    I think this thread has  
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in Hello October   
    I tried to understand. I read and reread, but I'm so lost. Can someone help me understand? Perhaps if you do as the following suggests:

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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Still_Small_Voice in Today is my younger brother's birthday. Thought you might enjoy the image   
    There was no Gen-Y and my wife is Gen-X. We don't joke about Gen-X. Ever!
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from LDSGator in Problems with church   
    I thought I was saving the earth by switching from my Chevy Impala to a 2013 Rav4 (16 -> 25 MPG). 😉
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Jamie123 in Hello October   
    I tried to understand. I read and reread, but I'm so lost. Can someone help me understand? Perhaps if you do as the following suggests:

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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from laronius in Problems with church   
    Funny...different story, but funny. Of course, that miracle wine was literally glorified grape juice. Unfertilized wine had about a 4% alcohol content after typical dilution--about 1/3rd of today's variety. 😉 
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Vort in Problems with church   
    I was told that a used Toyota Rav4 Hybrid is $44K. I paid $13K for my non-hybrid and felt like I was being an earth-friendly super hero. 
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    prisonchaplain reacted to Ironhold in Problems with church   
    The problem with electric vehicles is that once you get outside of the densely-packed major metropolitan areas it's hard to find publicly-accessible charging stations. 
    Go out far enough, and the only way an EV is traveling from A to B is on the back of a truck. 
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Problems with church   
    Churches sometimes have problems--aspects that outsiders criticize and aspects that older teenagers and young adults find more difficult to accept than past generations did. Examples:
    1. Politics are too conservative: Both of our churches lean right. The last U.S. president was particularly difficult for some to stomach. My short answer is that how members vote, despite their insistence to the contrary, is more a mark of their politics than it is a religious distinctive. The #1 reason many in my fellowship vote conservative is that they are prolife. Members will sometimes say, "I don't know how a true Christian could vote for a proabortion politician." They can say that, but there is no political litmus test in church.
    2. Church doesn't do enough for the environment. My church might be especially guilty on this because we believe Jesus will return at any time. So, some members disregard environmentalism. Nevertheless, "creation care," is something Christians of many stripes embrace. We may not be the most earth friendly, but taking care of what God made is scriptural.
    3. Sexual holiness codes are hypocritical and especially hurtful to LGBT. First, they are not hypocritical. Adultery, fornication, and porn viewing are all sinful. We don't talk as much about this because very few Christians are advocating porn viewing, fornication or adultery. They know it is sinful even if it happens a lot. We love LGBT folks, just as we love those who fornicate, commit adultery, or view porn. Nevertheless, if there is sin the call is to repentance--not affirmation.
    4. History: The two biggest TV evangelist scandals of the 1980s were of Assemblies of God ministers--Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker. What most don't know is that both men were defrocked. We don't speak ill of them. What they do is now between them and God. As a result, some believe that they faced no accountability. They did. Rather than submit to our restoration process they gave up their ministers' credentials.
    5. Overemphasis on doctrinal distinctives. Usually this has to do with our belief that speaking in tongues is the initial, physical evidence that one has been baptized in the Holy Spirit. This is our teaching, and the belief can be explained biblically. However, we're quick to add that when people convert to Christianity they immediately walk with the Holy Spirit, and many will enter the kingdom who have not and will not speak in tongues. 
    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints faces many of these broad issues. Some can be answered fairly quickly. Nevertheless, there seems to be lingering struggles. What we grapple with is different, but there are some similarities. Call this a commiseration string.
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Vort in Problems with church   
    Funny...different story, but funny. Of course, that miracle wine was literally glorified grape juice. Unfertilized wine had about a 4% alcohol content after typical dilution--about 1/3rd of today's variety. 😉 
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from Carborendum in LDS and Legalism: Good, bad, or not even there?   
    I was responding to the text she quoted--the Original Post. @zil2 is correct. 
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    prisonchaplain reacted to laronius in Problems with church   
    You forget the amazing wine. 
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from askandanswer in "Protestant Mormons"   
    I live in the anti-Bible belt (Pacific Northwest) --an area where 67% have no religious preference. It's been like this at least since my childhood (1960s-80s). Nationwide 70% still claim to be Christian. Of course, that's not true--but it's a lot higher than what we feel.
    There's is much to frustrate us. However, when the Spirit of God moves it's amazing how many respond. I believe Christianity's best days are yet to come. I'm expecting revival prior to Christ's return. If I'm wrong, come Lord Jesus, come. The harvest really is ripe. I suspect we are much like the prophet's servant. He could only see the approaching enemies. He could not see that angels surrounded and protected him. Likewise, the prophet who told God he was the only faithful one left. God said, no there were still thousands of faithful. We can't give up. We can't give in. We must dig in. 
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    prisonchaplain got a reaction from askandanswer in Problems with church   
    Still...the context of the story is that the 12 baskets of leftovers was a miracle not a commentary on the over-simplicity of the meal. 😉