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Granted there is lack of evidence but what kind of mother has a child missing for over a month and doesn't report it. The child is dead and she didn't just mysteriously become dead. A lot is wrong with this picture and justice has yet to be served for this beautiful child.

I am speechless. So much for justice. Although there was no actual proof and never is unless there is an eye witness on the scene which is unlikely in ANY murder case, the fact remains that a little child died and she was not reported missing by her mother for a month. Someone killed that child. It's heart breaking! Being a child of abuse many years ago, I have always held to the belief that not ALL women are meant to be mothers. I know the church feels differently, and I am not sure how a woman can have such blatant disregard for her child, but it happens. Personality disorders and even mental illness can play a role, but so can a girl marrying too young and having children too young before she knows full well the responsibilities of being a mother once conception and child birth have taken place. This is a very sad ending.

Does she really look like a Ginger Bread cookie? Just couldn't resist! LOL Hope you had fun and a great 4th weekend

I am an adopted child from an open adoption, and have worked as a long time volunteer with the ALMA "Adoptees Liberation Movement Association." I also have a number of close friends and two close relatives that adopted children through open adoption. There are many children that need loving parents to care for them when their birth parents are unable or unwilling to do so. But keep in mind ALWAYS that children are human beings and not pets. I don't mean this to sound harsh, but all too often people adopt to "complete" their family, or to "fulfill their need" to be parents. The children that they adopt will likely have a deep longing to know their roots (about 90 percent do). They will ask questions and likely eventually will want to know their birth mother, birth siblings and other birth family members. Many will eventually send out two mothers day cards (one for adopted mom and one for birth mom). The adopted child when he or she has their own children who will become the grandchildren of both the adopted and birth parents. What I am saying is to go into becoming an adoptive parent with love but not with the sense that you are the ONLY parent. Be prepared to possible share your childs love as they become adults with their birth parent, even if you do not agree with the birth parents reason for giving up their child in the first place, or even when you don't agree with their lifestyle. You never never own a child. Another pirece of advice is that an adoptive parent should never make their adopted child "feel" adopted or be introduced an an adopted child. Nor should other friends relatives or anyone in your family or social network refer to them as such. There is an advantage of an open aoption in that I know some that actually correspond and share photos with the intent of encouraging the child to consider their birth family an "extended" family member when they are grown. This can happen if both the birth and adoptive parents are very much doing what is best for the child and have their feelsings first always. In a closed or sealed adoption from an agency, there is still information available to the grown child. And if the child has to hear negatives about the birth family or if they have to seach on their own to find their birth heritage it could wind up in feelings of resentment. With adoption you take in a child as your own but you never own them. The ideal is to offer love and memories that will last a lifetime so you are not threatened by a future birth parent-child relationship. I wish you all the best.

If you are married in the Temple, only Temple worthy mambers are allowed to be a part of your Temple wedding. Often, there is a reception with a ring exchange ceremony sometime after the wedding which non member family and friends can attend. Another option is a civil ceremony wedding and reception where all can attend and a year after you can have your marriage sealed in the Temple.

Good Topic Chaplain! Whenever the topic comes up in any discussion as to the Immigration policies, people to automatically think in terms of the US/Mexico borders and the illegial immigration of Mexicans. And although I see this as a problem, I think there is a much greater problem regarding illegal entry into the USA that people rarely if ever discuss. Regarding immigration from Mexico, I think if jobs are not available, and welfare is not available to non US citizens, there would not be much incentive to cross the border. But for those that do, in spite of the news, many illegal Mexicans come here for work and opportunity much the way our more legal ancestors did. But what I see as the REAL problem is the people who come here through legal loop holes not to work, but to stay and recruit terrorist cells. They don't intend to find jobs. They intend to find or become suicide bombers. And they are not Mexicans. They are Arabs that have loads of cash and so they don't need to sneak across the border. They fly in to our major airports and pay cash to attend college on student VISAS. This is how the 9-11 terrorists arrived and stayed. And the reason our country is doing nothing about it is shear economics. A large majority of our American children have to apply for government loans and grants which cost the government money. The colleges need the tuition money to function. So foreign students with cash in hand are pretty freely welcomed. And these "student Visa" immigrants rarely go back when their visas expire, and they move about the country and are a threat to US citizens. Many create and /or join campus clubs that sympathize with Anti American agenda. I think if we as a country have concerns for immigration, we need to address the greater problems, rather than just trying to build a fence across Texas, Arizona and Claifornia; while the Arabs are flying and landing into Los Angeles, Dallas, Chiciago, New York and Detroit and Omaha etc:

I have been thinking about this issue for a while and after reading the other thread stated by LVLADY that led to discussions regarding a women needing permission from her husband to be baptized and/or endowed. There were words to the effect that a man is the one who should preside over the household etc: and I suppose much of this is because just about every society in humanity has been patriarchal in nature. And with women being the nurturing ones that preside over the caring for children, this indeed makes sense. I am far from a feminist, however, times and roles are ever changing with men and women, especially in the past 50 years or so where a very high percentage of women are in the work force. But here is my question as pertains to my own situation: My husband and I are a second marriage with children from our prior marriages were grown at the time of the marriage. We are 20 plus years into the marriage and it is happy and satisfactory to us both. By nature, I happen to be the spiritually stronger person. For that matter from a personality perspective, I am more likely to make the decisions etc: My husband is a wonderful man but is far more passive and less spiritual, and honestly prefers that I am the "leader" in the household as it allows him to be more "laid back". So moving the clock 19 years from our sealing and endowments, we are both in the church and quickly becoming active. For me the Temple is the most spiritual part of belonging to the church. For my husband, it's a nice formality. Since becoming active in the church again, he said he is "not sure" he feels comfortable about full tithing (that is a long story based on our earlier days in the church which put him in serious financial difficulties), and he is "not sure" he wants to give up that cup of coffee in the morning. Ok so here is my question: do I renew a Temple recommend for myself and go alone? According to the church laws whould I need his permission? Obviously permission is not a problem since I would never remain married to someone where I had to have permission for anything reasonable, BUT what is the church's stand on this? Also since we have both been endowed, what does this really mean in the afterlife if one person decides he may not want to become Temple worthy? I got to thinking about the Temple sessions where my "name" was called by him. But he doesn't even remember it now, so how does that work out? Last question; since our children are from prior marriages, (neither of our former spouses were ever members of the church), how does that work in the afterlife. I suppose somewhere down the road they could be baptized in the afterlife and be sealed to us? But assuming they do not join the church before we die, and it is likely by the natural course of things that we will not outlive them, how does that work out? In any event, if the husband is the one who should be presiding over this, what happens when the husband just wants to kick back and let the wife preside over everything? AND if the wife is the presiding family member, how does she continue in her progression toward the Celestial Kingdom if she has to follow the lead of her husband? Anyway, I think this would make for some interesting discussion that is not something that is discussed in Sunday school. Thanks in advance for your input.

Quote: "My suggestion-- if someone from the church invites you to go anywhere (RS get-togethers, VT stuff, lunch, play dates, etc.), or any church functions... Just say those people are your "friends" and you're gonna go do something fun to get out of the house. Its not necessary to mention to your man that its a "church function", or that you know those people from the church-- because that just makes it look like its taking over your life. That will scare him too. Let all the members in the ward know about your delicate situation, and ask them if they come by your house, to please not amplify that their relationship to you is purely church-related. Ask them to introduce themselves simply as "your friends", or perhaps, friends of the family. " End Quote In my personal opinion I don't think it's a good idea to hide what you are doing and not being straight up and honest about it. It's lying and in the end that never serves a good purpose. I would discuss the issue regarding whether the love within your m,arriage is unconditional or not. If you believe what you want for your life to be correct, then follow what you must do. God comes before what appears to be a potentially bad marriage.

I agree it is normal but I also believe it is a very private matter that should be between the couple and their counselor if they choose to seek counseling. I have trouble understanding why people that are not involved in the intimate relationship, feel it is ok to discuss and interfere in any way. Intimate relationships are scared and private and definitely not something anyone else should involve themselves with short of professional therapists.

lvlady, I wish you all the best. I am not a proponent of divorce, however, that being saud; if you have a spouse who says thay will not love you if...... (does not need to be about religion - fill in the blanks), then you do not have a marriage at all other than signatures on paper. Marriage is a partnership and the love within it needs to be unconditional for it to be viable. This does not mean that both partners need to be of the same faith, the same political parties or the same in many other areas. BUT they do need to always love and respect each other no matter what and do all they can to support each other. Never allow yourself to be emotionally manipulated. That is a form of abuse. If you want to investiage the LDS chirch or any hurch for that matter, do so. Let your husband know in no uncertain terms that if he chooses not to love you or if he places conditions on his love, they you do not have a viable marriage.

It is a good idea if you can buy it when you are younger. Keep in mind Long Term Care insurance is not just for the elderly and many policies allow Long Term in home care for many reasons. Say at age 40 something you have an accident and injure your back and your spouse works and you need basic living care during their absence. LTC insurance allows home health care for such things. As for elder nursing home type care, I would suggest to think about where you live or plan to live iduring your retirement years. The reason I suggest this is because if you live in a smaller town where there are only one or two nicer facilities available, the if you go on medicaid, you are not astuch with the less desireable facilities that are available in larger urban areas. Medicaid (not medicare) makes you sell down assets, but if your assets are family or corporation owned long before you get to that point, that is another option where property can stay in the family and you are still eligible. Self insuring is always an option, but considering the actual costs of LTC and the growing costs over time. self insuring may not be as good as an option then a younger person buying a LTC policy. And if you do buy, do so at the youngest age possible. My husband and I are far more healthy and fit than our children, but insurance companies go by the numbers and 60 something pays more than 40 something.

Forgive me for sounding judgemental here, but I have a very hard time understanding why a 42 year old man (according to your profile), would need to ask if oral sex was breaking the law of chastity. If someone your age does not know the answeer to that question, then you are the one that needs to talk to your bishop for advice on such things. Sorry if I am wrong but so often on the internet people lie their age on their profile and it winds up being a VERY young person (sometimes under age) asking questions that middle aged adults would not ask because they know the answer. As for the "member" that you know that has apparently told you such intimate details of your life....why would she discuss such things with another member. I have lived a lot of life and I don't know anyone in my ward or even my family that so openly discusses their intimate activities. I believe that a person's intimate relationships should remain in the bedroom behind closed doors and are no one's business except the couple involved.And if one or both of the people involved feel guilt, shame or the need to speak with church authorities, then that is between THEM and no one else. If someone ever approached me with such personal information I would tell them if they had feelings of remorse to get counseling or discuss it with a church authority. I would never want to duscuss these things with anyone, and I certainly would not gossip about another personals personal life, no less take it to an internet message board. And copying and pasting anyones personal email on a public message board is also very wrong.

Dahlia, Would we not as imperfect human parents want our children to have long lasting on going joy? How often have we as parents said what we want most is that our children are healthy and happy. So it is with Heavenly Father regarding us, his children.

Very well said Chaplian. I couldn't have said it better so I will just stand on the side lines and applaud. :)

The problem is with that Hoosier, is that a very strong Iran would want to keep YOU in check as well. Americans are considered infidels just as much as the Israeli's. After reading this thread, I find it appalling that there are members of the LDS church that are displaying such anti semitism. Learn something every day. I will not continue to engage in more conversation on this thread where so much hate exists.

Gwen, I think you need to get past the emotions and come to a realization of what insurance actually is. Insurance is a business based on dollars and cents and bottom line not the value of a persons feeling of self worth or lack thereof. When as a couple you decide to purchase life insurance, you are simply making a purchase based on your need; no differently then if you go to the store and buy an item. Insurance is meant to secure a sum of money to replace an income from the deceased so the the survivor can continue to maintain the lifestyle that they had before the deceased died. It is not necessarily about men and women, rather it is merely about income replacement. In my personal situation my husband earns the highest income. Our life insurance policy is $250,000.00 on HIM because we still have a mortgage on the house. If he dies and I lose the income he is earnign to pay the mortgage, I would have the option of paying off the house, or paying on it throughout the life of the loans, or until I die depending on which came first. Whatever is left be it money in the bank or paid for real estate would then pass to our children. The policy on me is only $50,000.00. If I die my husband would pay funeral costs and any personal debts and have a little capitol to continue my small business or sell it and use the money as he sees fit. This does not mean that I am personally worth less. It does mean that his income pays a greater part of our bills. If I die, he still has the income needed to pay these major bills. Our children are grown; however if we had children, I doubt that we would have changed this set up just for day ccare and house cleaning etc: You have to keep in mind that depending on your age and health, what your husband would pay in added insurance premiums could likely exceed the cost of day care, house cleaning etc: You could save that money on premiums to invest in your children's college fund and use it while you are still alive. Death is not something any of us are looking forward to, and I am likely just because of being older going to leave this earth before you conisdering the natural course of things. But short of a couple dying in an accident where they are traveling together in a car, plane train or something comes through the roof of our homes when we are sitting together; it is likely one goes before the other. The remaining spouse would likely re-marry, and a loving spouse would likely encourage that regardless of if there are still children living at home. Had my spouse died when my children were still young, I would have likely re-married with his blessing and someone else would have raised his children (or vise versa) is I had died and he re-married and someone else raised my children. As it is unless we live to be VERY old and wind up in assisted living, we would still possibly re-marry in the event of one dying before the other and the surviving spouse would get to know our grand and great grand children. Once we are both gone, and our children and grandchildren inherit what is left, I don't think they will care if the pay out of our insurance policies came from Mom or Dad. Gwen, you will never need money or an insurance policy to determine what you are worth to your family. You need to know what your worth is and just consider the money part for exactly what it is. A business transaction. Do not pay added unnecessary premiums for an insurance policy UNLESS you are insuring actual income. It is money to replace money, no more no less.

It's ok with me that we agree to disagree and I do understand your dilemma. But since I am not personally involved in your situation, and neither are the courts, they have to look at the big picture. Your ex-wife may also be choosing not to jump into another marriage so soon after a divorce. And giving up alimony and then possibly have a second failed marriage and having to go through the same financial drama to properly support her family is enough to make anyone wary. You need to understand that evebn though you feel like you are the wronged party, there are rarely perfectly innocent parties when divorce happens. As for what you son needs to really learn about marriage, is seriously not to think of it as something he must do as soon as he reaches legal adulthood. I know that the church encourages early martriage mainly to deter young people from disobeying the law of chastity at a time when their hormones and emotions are off the radar. BUT with 51 oercent of marriages ending in divorce, I believe that a marriage has much better chances and children have a much better chance of being raised in a functional home when the couple/parents are mature adults that are not thinking with their hormones and dramatic emotions. I read a lot here about courting, dating, wives needing husbands to "pay attention" to them and build their self esteem. I also read a lot about men struggling with pronography and sexual urges. Perhaps when marriage is between 2 mature educated adults that can think beyone all that and manage to find the self esteem within themselves, then they can look at marriage as the merging of a family and the lifetime work and responsibility it takes throughout generations. When you get to be my age (take this for what it is worth), you can look back on your ealy courtship with fond memories. And then you know that your feelings of self esteem were already in place long before you met your spouse. You can understand that once the courtship, romance, frequent sex, date nights and all that are replaced with working together to complete educations, pay opff student ;oans, buying your home, maintaining your home, nuturing and educating your children to grow up and develop their own sense of seof esteem and positive goals for their adult life. The day will come when you are not thinking about courtship, date nights and romantic fantasies. Instead you will simply feel content and grateful that you are healthy and alive and alongside each other. You will feel the satisfaction at a family gathering that your middle aged children are pretty much raising your young adult grandchildren much like you raised them; and your young adult grandchildren as they are haveing their first babies will have the skills to carry on into the new generations. My husband and I were having a conversation n our home this past week about how some younger people seem to stress out so much over stuff that will become totally meaningless over time. Remamber that what I am describing is my life and seeing my 4th generation beginning, and it just boggles my mind that this is just the tip of the iceberg because this entire plan is for infinity, eternity. Don't get caught up in resentment for alimony. Instead focus with your son about choosing people he will be happy to spend an eternity with, and to take all the time he needs to find it.

Personally I do not think welfare from the church or from the government should be granted to anyone who creates self inflicted poverty. Sorry I disagree with there never being a good time to start a family. The perfect time is AFTER the couple have securred a good education and an income that will support a family. And I am not talking just diapers and baby food because thse things are outgrown quick enough. It goes beyond extra mouths to feed and extra clothing to buy. If you don't want your children to grow up in endless generations of welfare recipients, then get the financial planning that secures health insurance, the ability to pay for the co pays and unexpected expenses, and planning for their education. Once a couple has built their own security it will be time to have children that they can teach and live by example how to maintain a functioning independant family.

Garry, Sorry you are hurting and it is understandable that if you are going through a divorce you are feeling bitter and jaded. But if you even attempt to teach your son such things, you are actually teaching him that you have negative feelings about his mother and that you don't feel that his mother (and possibly him too if you are paying child support), should be or are worthy enough to be taken care of. Personally I have taught my sons and daughters and now grandchildren, that if a potential spouse even suggests a prenup, then it is time to break off the engagement. Suggesting a prenup is suggesting that there is no faith that the marriage will survive or be worked at, and that if the going gets tough, it's each one for themselves. The only way a prenup would work or be even thinkable for a woman to consider is 1. If she has equal education, employment and income as her spouse, 2. Both husband and wife are career people and have no children. 3. The marriage is entered into with equal assets. If not, then no prenup. Teach your son to be a good husband and be a man of honesty, integrity and make wise choices in the people that he surrounds himself with. Then teach him to take his time before deciding who to marry. Then once married be prepared to give it his all for better, for worse, richer, poorer, sickness health and all the rest. My best to you and your entire family.

I have three that seriously do blow my mind when I think of the meaning of it and it really made me get it. WOW Luke 17:6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of a mustard seed say unto this sycamine tree, Be though plucked up by the root, and be though planted in the sea; and it should obey you. John 14:12 Verily Verily I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also, and greater the works than will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these shall hel he do, because I go unto my Father. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 What? Know ye not that your body is the Temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? That latter is one that I especially mediate upon when I feel physically ill, tired or have any thought of straying from the Words of Wisdom or the Dietary laws in Leviticus. These three verses really tell us who we really are, what our purpose is, and once we really get that, it becomes much easier to overcome temptations, illnesses, and the stresses of day to day life.

Sher, If I have ever learned anything in life it is not to meddle into the lives of my grown children and grandchildren, (and yes I have lots of them). They will choose their life partners in their own time. What may sound perfect to us as parents may not sound quite as ideal to our children. We need to accept that, and they should never feel pushed or pressured into marriage. I know we all want what is best for our children, but somehow it has a way of working out. This is one of those times to just let go and let God.

Wha are you to do? Sorry to sound harsh but you need to set yourself free from texting and meerting strangers. You cannot maintain any kind of real relationship on a computer, cell phone or any electronic device. They are machines. You are married to a real human being. And if you have children, you need to make them your number one priority, not the guy in the i-phone. If hubby was into porn and this is unresolved between the two of you, then counseling is in order. As for telling your husband of your indescretion, I am not sure what the answer is and I am not sure it would help or cause more problems. If you have a need to tell him, you have to search your soul and ask yourself, would telling him give you some kind of "getting even" satisfatioon because his porn problem made you feel inadaquate? And would telling anyone make you feel as if "someone" (the guy in the _phone) make you feel adaquate? Would telling your husband cause him to feel betrayed to the point of breaking up your entire fmily? If you talked to no one other than Heavenly Father (who already knows), would you be able to commit to not communicating with the guy on the phione to the point to deleting the number, all messages or tossing the phone in the toilet if you cannot be responsible with your phone? I am assuming you have not gone further than you already have, and hopefully you will get the counseling you need to find your self respect and self esteem. And remember no matter what you think your reason is to justify your own actions (hubbys porn issue or whatever)., nothing gives you license to make irresponsible decisions that can destroy a family. Think long and hard before you act. My best to you and your family.

I am not sure I fully understand. You have this job you don't like so you can pay your College tuition, but you are only 18. So when did you graduate from high school and what year are you now in college? Check your financial aide office perhaps and consider living on campus so you can complete your education. With the time you are putting in on the job, it is difficult to see how you can devote the time to school. Your education will help you pursue the career that you want and will enjoy. At 18 you have an entire life to live, so seriously, get out of the cemetary and back on campus. You will not only gain knowlegde but maturity along the way. At 18 just enjoy being a college kid and follow your dreams. I wish you all the best.

Who says that Adam and Eve were specific individual people. There is no mention of race, and in Hebrew there is no specifics given that Adam was an individual. Rather the name Adam or אָדָם‎, ʼĀḏām translated to English means dust, man, mankind as in a human race (mankind) of people made from dust not just an individual man named Adam. I don't think what color their skin was is relevant.

I have a few that stand out from Judaism, LDS and other Christian: Two Favorite Jewish Songs O Seh Shalom Hashkiveinu Two Favorite LDS Hymns If You Could Hie To Kolob Praise To The Man Two Favorite Christian Hymns Nearer My God To Thee How Great Thou Art Another beautiful Hymn found in a Lutheran hymnal called Hark The Voice Of Jesus Calling has beautiful lyrics for a call to service hymn.