Phineas

I assume this message board has no rules against discussing politics.

I hate to say it, but we are all watching a slippery slope before our eyes. We change what marriage is and now we don’t even know what a man or woman is.

Is it just me or is the word “tolerance” not used as much these days? The word “inclusion” seems to be thrown around more often. Tolerance, as I understand it, means that we disagree with each other and have different sets of values but we all strive to get along and live with each other nonetheless. Inclusion seems to mean that we change our beliefs in order to accommodate others. When it comes to LGBT issues, it seems the church is no longer being asked to be tolerant. It would appear we are being asked to change in order be more inclusive.

I just want to make it clear that literally nobody is making the argument that men and boys don’t have responsibility over their own thoughts and actions. That is a straw man claim that always gets brought up in this discussion.

I really like Mason even though I probably disagree with him politically. His book Planted was very helpful to me. I am also a huge fan of Terryl and Fiona. I wouldn’t call them second prophets but they have been immensely influential to me.

I really just wanted to express how pleasantly surprised I am with President Nelson. It’s just been fascinating watching him do all the things he’s been doing at his age. The poll was more of a rhetorical question I guess.

Good point. He was an apostle of Christ. But all apostles and prophets are people with different styles and personalities. Just look at the current 15. They’re all unique. They preach the same gospel but do so in different ways. Just like we have four different writers of the Gospels. Individual church members often gravitate toward some General Authorities more than others. I have my favorites. You probably have yours.

The church doesn’t hate anybody. But you’ll still find individual church members that are jerks. That shouldn’t be a surprise.

I used to buy into the narrative that the church is behind on everything. But now that I look at how crazy our society is becoming, I have to admit that I stand corrected.

No specific examples that I can remember. He basically said that McConkie had a more authoritarian style of teaching. So, in a way, he held on the reins too tight.

I’d say Elder Uchtdorf is the most notable comparison.

I suppose not.

I don’t believe I am familiar with this priesthood ban of which you speak.

I might give Brigham Young a lower grade for that blasted priesthood ban.

You’re absolutely right.