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  3. President Nelson vaccinated

    in General Discussion

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    16 hours ago, mirkwood said:

    100-120 in attendance at Sacrament Meeting today. Looks like about 110 of us are going to the terrestrial kingdom. 

    Curious... terrestrial kingdom because of no masks Or no vaccinations Or both?

    12 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

    Can someone please explain what the heck this is talking about?

    🤷‍♂️ I'm in the same boat as you.

  6. CDC - "Racism is a serious public health threat"

    in Current Events

    Posted · Edited by NeedleinA

    57 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

    When racism is so easily blamed as the source of all evil, I have to wonder how this is not a religion. 

    As of late, we seem to see the cry of 'racism' flung around for at least a couple of reasons:

    1. Easy way to raise money for race hustlers. "Racism over there! Look!". Money starts pouring in from those that are especially 'woke'.
    Inside BLM co-founder Patrisse Khan-Cullor's million dollar real estate buying binge.
    2. Political parties can use it to secure voters. Demonize conservatives and portray the left as racial saviors.
    3. My favorite: You don't have to take accountability for your own choices since it is the racial systems fault, not yours.

    From the Church's website on self-reliance: "Taking Personal Responsibility"
    1. Don't blame others
    2. Don't make excuses
    3. Apologize when you make mistakes
    4. Let go of the past and move on

  10. CDC - "Racism is a serious public health threat"

    in Current Events

    Posted · Edited by NeedleinA

    CDC = Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
    Their Mission Statement:

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    Mission: To promote health and quality of life by preventing and controlling disease, injury, and disability.

    The organization supposedly helping us overcome the Covid 'Pandemic' is off worried about racism now?

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    Today, Rochelle P. Walensky MD, MPH, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and administrator of the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR), declared racism a serious public health threat. Adding action to words, she highlighted several new efforts CDC is leading to accelerate its work to address racism as a fundamental driver of racial and ethnic health inequities in the United States.

    Gee, thanks.
    Next we will need face masks to fight racism.

  11. President Nelson vaccinated

    in General Discussion

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    38 minutes ago, Anddenex said:

    Isn't this guy now advocating (or has been advocating) to wear two face masks for protection? It almost feels like it was a test just to see how many people they could get to blindly follow.

    Yes, he certainly is.
    2020 he says:

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    People should not be walking around with masks...wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet BUT it is not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is...

    2021
    After the sheeple have been conditioned to blindly follow he wants us to wear two masks now.

  12. President Nelson vaccinated

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    1 hour ago, dprh said:

    12 We believe in being asubject

    Elder Oaks shared:

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    President Ezra Taft Benson expressed the fundamental principle of popular sovereignty when he said, “We [the people] are superior to government and should remain master over it, not the other way around.”13 ...

    ...In his address on the U.S. Constitution, President Ezra Taft Benson quoted this important observation by John Adams, the second president of the United States:

    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”18

    I also keep in mind, D&C 134:11

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    11 We believe that men should appeal to the civil law for redress of all wrongs and grievances, where personal abuse is inflicted or the right of property or character infringed, where such laws exist as will protect the same; but we believe that all men are justified in defending themselves, their friends, and property, and the government, from the unlawful assaults and encroachments of all persons in times of exigency, where immediate appeal cannot be made to the laws, and relief afforded.

     

  17. President Nelson vaccinated

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    Posted · Edited by NeedleinA

    26 minutes ago, dprh said:

    Sorry for being vague.

    He talked about getting the numbers to a point where state and local governments will remove the restrictions that keep the temples closed.  

    Technically some temples are already open, in very limited capacity.
    We have temples in multiple countries and states. Each will have their own restrictions, some may overlap. Since at least the US Govt. refuses to give us any defined metrics, other than "low enough" what are we to do? What happens if every single LDS member was vaccinated right now, are those local and state govts. going to allow us to open fully?

    Unfortunately, I don't believe that even if the entire planet was vaccinated against 'wild-type Covid 19' that they would allow us to go back to full capacity.
    Next we will have to wait until the entire world is vaccinated for "variant A" of wild type.
    Then "variant B". So on and so on. Fauci already said he still wears double masks, after having been vaccinated, because of concerns about variants now.

    Govt. has us right where they want us, they have become the new religion. Fauci has passed Sainthood for many already.
    What incentive do they have to give up even a single ounce of their power right now? None.
    As long as "we the people" sit around shaking in our boots in silence, we get what we deserve at this point.

  18. President Nelson vaccinated

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by NeedleinA

    39 minutes ago, dprh said:

    by curbing the spread of COVID-19

    Curious if he gave an actual metric that would allow us to fully open up the temples?
    I realize 'curbing' might be your word OR his... either way it is incredibly vague and doesn't allow us to reach success, since we don't know the actual goal.
    Does the world need to be 50% vaccinated, 80%, 100%?
    Do Covid cases need to be down to 'X' first? If so, what is 'X'?

    Dr. Facui keeps dancing around this subject too.
    Rep. Jim Jordan asks Facui, "When is the time?"
    Spoiler alert: Facui can't/won't give him an answer besides, "low enough".
    What does "low enough" even mean?

     

  19. President Nelson vaccinated

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    15 minutes ago, JohnsonJones said:

    What reason do we have for ignoring what they have stated or their examples?

    You already gave a valid reason = 

    15 minutes ago, JohnsonJones said:

    I can understand those who are hesitant due to the emergency nature of the vaccine.  I don't have any answers on that.

    Church Handbook 38.7.13 states:

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    Ultimately, individuals are responsible to make their own decisions about vaccination.

    I agree^^^^
     

  21. How close should extended family be?

    in Family

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    20 minutes ago, Backroads said:

    Despite the atrocity that is the Utah housing market,

    Just curious, have you ever lived outside of Utah before? Outside of Utah as a couple? Outside as a family?
    Life out in the 'mission field' has many wonderful benefits.

    I agree with others, it is 100% up to you and your family. No. One. Else. Not even Momma Bear.
    Some of my better relationships are with family who live away from us.
    My son, now on his mission, values his family tremendously - hah!

  22. President Nelson vaccinated

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    Posted · Edited by NeedleinA

    4 hours ago, JohnsonJones said:

    MAYBE...but I'm going to follow the example of the prophet and general Authorities and their actions on this one...

    If this is the case:

    Step 1: One would need to consult and receive approval from their physician first. Pres. Nelson said:

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    With approval from our physician...

    I wonder how many people are actually talking to a physician first or just doing it?

    Step 2:  With some guidance from your physician you can better decide if it is right for you specifically:

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    D&C 9:8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must astudy it out in your bmind; then you must cask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your dbosom shall eburn within you; therefore, you shall ffeel that it is right.
    9 But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, ...

    Step 3: In order to follow the Prophet and general Authorities... which 'exact' vaccine did they take? They all can't be equal. Since the Prophet is speaking to the World and the membership around the world, what vaccine are they giving their stamp of approval on? If I'm a member of the Church in China, what vaccine do I take?
     

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    What vaccines has China developed?

    There are about a dozen Chinese vaccine candidates for covid-19, but five front runners have received emergency use approval in China as well as several other countries.

    Step 4: When do I take it?
    Now?
    Do I wait it out a little bit longer?
    How about 4 months from now instead?

  23. Boring General Conference

    in LDS Gospel Discussion

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    On 4/4/2021 at 4:27 PM, raven2 said:

    Presidents Oaks talk was loaded with knowledge and direction for these last days.

    On 4/5/2021 at 9:53 PM, bytebear said:

    Sunday's session was pretty heavy on the Constitution, and was surprisingly frank.   I liked it.

    Elder Oaks said:

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    Reverence for the United States Constitution is so great that sometimes individuals speak as if its every word and phrase had the same standing as scripture. Personally, I have never considered it necessary to defend every line of the Constitution as scriptural. For example, I find nothing scriptural in the compromise on slavery or the minimum age or years of citizenship for congressmen, senators, or the president.

    ...There is no place in responsible citizenship for dishonesty or deceit or for willful law breaking of any kind.

    Sound familiar??
    New for these last days?

    FYI: The quote above comes from Elders Oaks talk on the Constitution... in the Ensign back in... 1992. 
    This past conference talk he gave was awfully similar to the one he gave 30 years ago.