NeedleinA

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  1. President Trump's - Twitter account suspended
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    President Trump's - Facebook page - frozen
    War Room Pandemic Podcast - Removed from Youtube
    Google & Apple removing the Parler free speech app
    Etc. Etc. Etc.

    One by one the dominos are falling.
    "Think like us or else we will simply silence you"

  2. Hi All -
    In general conference, President Nelson said the following in his talk, Let God Prevail :

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    During these perilous times of which the Apostle Paul prophesied,20 Satan is no longer even trying to hide his attacks on God’s plan. Emboldened evil abounds.

    I'm preparing a lesson for Church and hoping to hear from you with some concise examples... "how have you see Satan no longer hiding his attacks on God's plan"?
    I'm hoping for one sentence or less answers if possible. Specific examples are even better? Thanks in advance!

  3. 15 minutes ago, Grunt said:

    I've developed a real fondness for Ezra Taft Benson

    President Gordon B. Hinckley had this say about Ezra Taft Benson:

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    I am confident that it was out of what he (Ezra) saw, the bitter fruit of dictatorship that he developed his strong feelings, almost hatred for communism and socialism. That distaste grew through the years as he witnessed the heavy handed oppression and suffering of the peoples of eastern europe under what he repeatedly described as godless communism. These experiences further strengthened his love for the land of his birth …
    He never got over his boyhood love for freedom. Rather, it grew within him. Nurtured by what he saw of oppression in other lands, and by what he observed first hand of a growing dominance of government in this land over the lives of the people. (Gordon B. Hinckley, Talk given at the funeral of Ezra Taft Benson, June 4, 1994)

     

  4. We just upgraded all our buildings with newer chapel cameras, new TVs with better capabilities, etc.
    Our stake 'actually' has budget money left to do upgrades with since as Wards we didn't 'eat'* our budgets down to zero.

    *most Wards in our Stake historically burn their budgets by feeding themselves, Christmas parties, linger longers, Ward parties, etc.
    Fewer activities = money left for technology now. Surprise plus.
     

  5. I apologize if this series was shared previously, I must have missed it if it was. Our family has been watching an absolutely wonder series on the Savior called "The Chosen".
    It appears to have been created for VidAngel but we have been watching it both on Youtube and BYUtv. Without spoiling anything... it is about how the Savior went around choosing individuals to come follow him... individuals who might not otherwise have felt worthy or up to the task.

    Looking for something to lift your spirit and see the Savior in perhaps a different light, our family gives it a thumbs up! Enjoy

     

  6. @JohnsonJones perhaps there is a healthy middle ground here.
    Some possible interpretations I see from the handbook statement:

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    In matters of doctrine and Church policy, the authoritative sources are the scriptures, the teachings of the living prophets, and the General Handbook.

    Possible interpretations:
    1. None of the Church Handbook is considered doctrine.
    2. The entire Church Handbook is considered doctrine (I believe this is your area of concern)

    rather I believe it is...

    3. Parts of the Church Handbook do contain doctrine while other parts simply contain policy. Just because it is in the Handbook does not make it doctrine.

    The Church News released an article in Feb 2020 entitled, First Presidency releases new general handbook for Church leaders, members
    it breaks apart the handbook:

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    The handbook is divided into four sections — Doctrinal Foundation, Church Organization, Work of Salvation and Exaltation, and Church Administration.

    Here is some additional wording that might help. This is taken from a statement the Church issued 31 July 2020 called, Significant Updates Made to Five Chapters of the General Handbook  It says:

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    Several of these updates now include doctrinal explanations to help people understand why the Church takes the position it does on these issues.

    So...
    Do parts of the Church Handbook contain doctrine? Yes.
    Is everything inside of the Handbook doctrine? No
    Are some sections separated out between Doctrine vs. Church Administration? Yes
    Are doctrinal explanations also scattered throughout the book to help explain non-doctrinal positions/issues? Yes

    Just some thoughts, hopefully there is something of value to you above.👍

  7. 9 minutes ago, Traveler said:

    I believe that judgment or condemnation that we are commanded not to conduct is in essence the "Final Judgment" to which one is confined to whatever glory in the resurrection.

    Elder Dallin H. Oaks in a talked entitled, Judge Not and Judging said:

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    In contrast to forbidding mortals to make final judgments, the scriptures require mortals to make what I will call “intermediate judgments.” These judgments are essential to the exercise of personal moral agency...

    ...Thus, our Savior’s teachings contain many commandments we cannot keep without making intermediate judgments of people: “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine” (Matthew 7:6); “Beware of false prophets. . . . Ye shall know them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15–16); and “Go ye out from among the wicked” (D&C 38:42).

    We all make judgments in choosing our friends, in choosing how we will spend our time and our money, and, of course, in choosing an eternal companion.

     

  8. On 12/16/2020 at 8:16 PM, Anddenex said:
    The finger was indeed pointing up, except the finger was the middle finger rather than the index finger.

    The hand emojis here have the same option. I've had to edit more than a couple of posts in my early days here once I realized what I had done. I now know not to make that mistake any longer. ☝️

  9. **Not a political discussion, part of the quote removed to not focus on the political**

    I was watching the Senate hearing on Election Security a couple days ago.
    One of the witnesses, Judge Starr, was asked by Senator Hawley about censorship:

    Question:

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    Senator Hawley: (02:38:58)
    Let me talk about the first amendment. Judge Starr, I want to begin with you because I know that you have spent much of your life as a litigator defending the first amendment. Have you ever seen anything like we saw in the closing days of the election when you had the biggest corporations in the history of this country, the most powerful corporations in the world, Facebook, Twitter, working ... to suppress legitimate reporting... Have you ever seen anything in your career like that, Judge Starr, where we have these giant, corporate conglomerates censoring and suppressing news directly bearing on an election weeks beforehand, and doing it apparently in conjunction with one of the major political parties? Have you ever seen anything like that?

    Answer:

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    Judge Starr: (02:39:55)
    No, I think we live in a new age and we need to go back to great lessons from constitutional law, as you well know, Senator Hawley.

    Judge Starr: (02:40:02)
    -from constitutional law, as you well know, Senator Hawley, and Justice William Brennan, an icon of the Warren Court, saying that our democracy is based upon robust and uninhibited debate and Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes saying, “Let’s test things in the marketplace of ideas.” You can’t test places, ideas, and theories unless you allow the marketplace of information and communication to flourish.

    I found both ideas to be extremely relevant. The need for:

    1. Uninhibited debate
    2. Allowing the marketplace to test the ideas of others

    If someone produces a bad/inferior/faulty product, hopefully the marketplace/consumers will eventually reject that product and it will be pushed aside for a better/superior product.
    If these big tech companies are censoring things, we really aren't allowed to "test the ideas" out. We are being forced a singular product/narrative only.
     

  10. I'll be out for a while but wanted to address one item before I go as it relates to American's belief of widespread voter fraud.

    1. 35% of GOP voters didn't believe the 2020 election was free and fair before the election.
    2. 70-77% of Republicans now say they don’t believe the 2020 election was free and fair

    So, why the change?
    Some would like to lazily dismiss this change to the mindless Trumpling sheeple, holding Trump up as a demi-god, believing anything he utters.  I don't doubt that their will be some who fall into this category. Sheeple occur on both sides of the aisle, Dem & Rep.

    Instead, I would attribute it more to the Republican's willingness/desire to actually watch the evidence presented during the 40+ hrs of legislative hearings that took place.
    I'm not sure how many Democrats cared to invest time into hearing the actual evidence first hand, if I had to guess, I would say very few. Each of us here can ask ourselves, "Did I actually watch any significant portion of the hearings... beyond internet memes, SNL skits, headlines and cherry picked snippets?"

    With the MSM suppressing the evidence that was presented, those caught in the MSM bubble would have little reason to believe there was widespread fraud.
    The MSM says there was nothing to see, their guy 'won'... life carries on for the left.

    In contrast, take every voting American and sit them down to watch some meaningful portion of the hearings (evidence, questioning & rebuttals)...................then take the poll again. Let's see what happens then.

    Of the people who don't believe their was widespread voter fraud, how many of them are victims of the MSM/Big Tech?

  11. 10 minutes ago, Godless said:

    I'd argue that a vast majority of US voters DO believe that this was a free and fair election.

    Quinnipiac Poll, Dec 10, 2020

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    Among Democrats, 97% say there was no widespread fraud in the election, but 77% of Republicans believe there was. Among independents, 62% said there was no widespread fraud and 35% said they believe there was

     

  12. 41 minutes ago, MarginOfError said:

    to help one another as equal partners. 

    Equal partner is not the same as Equal Responsibilities.
    There is no ambiguity in the responsibilities of the mother and father (in the ideal scenario) it is clearly defined.

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    1. By divine design, fathers are to...provide the necessities of life and protection for their families.
    2. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children.

    Again, like it or hate it... tip toe around it... twist it to fit your personal desires, the counsel still exists.
    Many have attempted to discredit the Proclamation as a problem causer vs. a problem solver.
    If someone finds fault with it's teachings, here you go:

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