Bad Karma

Ok, call me a wuss, but this thread brought me to tears.

Did you actually read her post?

Holy smokes! Glad I'm not your Bishop, I'd be really sad about all of this. I'd be really hounding the stake president and my counselors about what to do about this very much in peril marriage, how to bring you both lovingly to repentance and save a marriage. Tell me, are you and your husband sealed? BTW, I am **NOT** a Bishop, nor do I play one on TV, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once.

Mustard Seed, Relax, if it were disciplinary, you'd already know. He's probably just checking in with you to see how you're doing, how you're feeling, are you alright, is there anything he can do to help. You've not done ANYTHING to get your temple rec pulled. Heck, I have a temple rec and THAT is saying something! The church is far more understanding than ***WE*** are. Remember the words of Christ, my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Do NOT be afraid of your Bishop, a far higher authority loves you unconditionally, we named out church after him. If Christ would kiss your cheek, dry your eyes, a bishop has an even greater duty to exemplify the bidding of our savior.

I love my cotton garments, I keep 'em close to my heart. Yes, I sure do!

I'd rather be a poor and honest soldier of meager means with a heart that is true, chosen by a godly woman who sees that my heart is true, that I am of meager means and that I love with all my might, than be a rich man, with some swimsuit model tightly wrapped round my wallet. If neither of these are then me, I would rather be blessed by heavenly father to live out my days alone, spending my life seeking HIM.

Real LDS women *LOVE* their husbands, regardless of income. Real LDS men *LOVE* their wives, truly, madly, deeply, regardless of anything. "And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Matthew 19:24 Christ has spoken... Worship riches at your own eternal peril.

I don't know why you're having a hard time accessing it. Go to LDS Distribution services, go over to garments, scroll down, there they are. I'm looking at them right now. Caveat, maybe it is something your bishop needs to notate on your account, like a "Military" check box. Give LDS distribution a call and ask why you are having difficulty accessing military garments, I affirm that I am seeing them available at the moment of this posting. You select either tops or bottoms, at the bottom are military garments, titled "Military - Coyote - TAN 499"

Actually, you can order them online The LDS clothing website is quite military friendly.

I thought the very same thing as you did, Vort.

Ok, I navigated through the thread, especially the original post. I have to say other than an overly broad stroke from the brush of misandry, what in purple screaming meatballs did I just read?

This is one messed up thread.

Absolutely! Vehemently, over and over again and then some. My own marriage struggles, the deceiver seeks to destroy families. But allow me to edit this, the promises I made to the lord AND my wife make it worth it, even when I am driven to my knees in tears, it's worth it, yes, and let the chips fall where they may, and it's still worth it, every tear, every cry, every moment of frustration and even human doubt, all worth it when the most beautiful of promises are kept to God and spouse in sealing. Hard, sometimes..

With that in mind, blessed be the name of the lord. For the worse it gets, the closer his return draws near.

Beside the ecclesiastical reasons of which are quite valid, mental health wise, looking at porn gives a very unrealistic view of the nude human body, for NORMAL people are not "Built" like that (usually), the expectation can be projected upon a spouse of future spouse, and there's trouble. Twofold, sexual release with viewing porn is no less than having had relations with the women you are viewing during release. Porn is absolutely the devil's playground, it's inherently dangerous. Don't think for a moment those are victimless crimes, you may have a handful of players, yet so many more that are victims of human trafficking. Much suffering goes into porn, there is the physical suffering, the self esteem loss, then the spiritual suffering (Separation from God and the holy spirit). No one will, or should, be more beautiful to you in a disrobed state than your wife, or wife to be. I am blessed to be married to the woman of my dreams, whom shares with me the things only a husband should ever know. I don't just have her body, but I have her beautiful heart too. Blessed be the name of the lord, I thank him for my wife, who loves me so much.

Mormons are human, personalities differ. Different folks and all that. In the end, we're still Mormons.

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I don't give Mrs. Karma advice anymore, I just listen. I get in trouble when I try to give advice.. To he double hockey sticks with that shinola.

You're going to get called to the mat by the wife eventually for that very reason.

Another husband here. I take my wife's side 100% of the time, and there is good reason for it too. My Mom is often a bully. Homey don't play that game, not with my wife. Zero tolerance.

I love fountain pens, I used to have a bunch that my Grandpa gave me when I was a kid, now, those things are crazy expensive.

Wow, what a train wreck in and of itself. That RM is **NOT** the church. The Church DOES have some really jerky people in it, but jerky people are everywhere, including our church. Never the less, you have so much left to experience in the church, and over time, THE TEMPLE! TADA!!!!! Your LDS husband is out there somewhere, and in the fullness of time, you'll find one another. You won't have to drag him off, he'll come along at a pace parallel to you. For now, go to church, focus on your classes and such, get yourself in a good place in your mind for your temple prep class if it is not that far off. (I don't know much about you)

That's a tough call. I think I need my wife to give me another dissertation on it. I'm way too cynical.

I wish my wife and I had just ONE more, if for no other reason then to loose my demon spawn on the people who have done such to me. Oh, to have a screaming red faced lil red neck Baby Karma crawling around and gnawing on other people's knees donning "Real Tree" or "Mossy Oak" cammo pattern diapers. *Meniachal laugh* Ya'll are in trouble, ya know that, right?

Required no, once endowed, expected. There are no garment police save that when you renew a recommend, you are asked if you wear them day and night. My own experience, there are times I simply didn't wear them, I didn't feel right, something nearly unwell inside, I felt at odds, unprotected, not in sync. When I returned to wearing them, I felt better, they remind me of of important promises I made not just in my endowment, but in my sealing as well, I feel more a part of my wife when wearing them. I strongly suspect that the holy spirit speaks to one often about the wearing and the intent. I am no where near the example cookie cutter mormon, I just try over and over to be a better one each day. As to private or sacred, I will mirror my response. In military service, oft there were times it was necessary to conduct work sans my ACU blouse and my sand colored garment shirt was visible. No one ever noticed or cared. I think the spirit understood. Funny timing I would see this, I've just ordered more replacements from LDS distribution yesterday, I am hard on garments. For those not wearing garments YET, they are somewhat of a fuss, but they are unwarranted concerns. Once you've been in yours for a short bit, you stop thinking about them, you just wear them.