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I love seeing Kwaku so active in the public eye, he has somehow grabbed the attention of the Protestant world. But in every debate, he finds himself on the defensive almost the entire time. I hopped in for a few seconds and he was just getting steam rolled. I feel has become somewhat of a go-to punching bags for Protestants to show the world that we are false. If I were in his shoes, my go to phrase should be “I don’t know” and resort back to basic principles that unite us and seperate us. Focus on the Book of Mormon and modern day revelation. He is NO match for the biblical “scholars” he throws himself in front of.

I think intolerable is a little strong, but he is my least favorite of the group. In some of the more “controversial” topics, he tends to take the “philosophies of men mingled with scripture” approach. The modesty episode comes to mind.

I agree. When debates are done well and both sides are well informed, they provide a fascinating breakdown of where the core disagreements lie.

I’ve seen Kwaku debate in the past and it isn’t anything to write home about.

Any step towards God is a good step. Maybe he won’t stick with the Christian thing, but if his music helps you come closer to God, all the better

Kanye is an interesting duck. Glad to see him doing some Christian music

I wonder if we lost the electoral college would We end up seeing “The rent is too [dang] high” guy as the runner up in the presidential race?

The online world is a beautiful place. The culture and identity of the internet has become chaotic neutral, seeking to make a joke out of any opportunity they can. I watched a compilation video the other day of prank calls on live TV. Based on the quality of each clip, they stopped doing live calls in the early 2000s. I imagine it won’t be long till they stop allowing the audience to vote for the same reason.

How about no graphic sex? Gay, trans, pan, bi, A, furry, or straight?

There was a missionary that came out with me that tore his ACL playing basketball. He was gone for a year recovering and then came back to the mission. I don’t think it is up to you to decide the nature of your return or where you will end up serving. I wouldn’t worry too much about it either. Missions are inspired by God, whether that means serving a full mission in one place, or serving partly somewhere and then somewhere else. I have a buddy that was called to Germany, but never actually made it there. Ended up serving his full mission in the states. If you want to go back out, talk to your bishop and he will make it happen if it is possible.

She sent nudes of herself to another man. At what point would you say she have to confess? If she had been in an active affair for 6 years, then should she confess? Or no cause it would tear apart her family? The fact that confessing would risk the marriage is reason enough to confess What your saying doesn’t seem like a faithful answer at all, but rather the answer of a heathen that is just trying to avoid rocking the boat. Had an emotional affair been the end of the issue, then we can have an open discussion about whether a confession to the husband is necessary. But the fact that she sent nude photos of herself to another man alone mandates a confession to the bishop and husband. All will be known in the last days. There will be no secrets. So it comes down to this. Is there a God or is there not? If there is no God, then keep it a secret. Don’t say anything. If there is a God, The husband will discover her unfaithful actions in the end and she will be under the condemnation of God. This (meaning the stain of sin and the eternal feeling of shame) can ALL go away through confession. Admittedly there will be scars, but those scars will heal. now @Highthoughts, I want to end speaking directly to you to clarify things that may have been misinterpreted in my explanation above. You are not a terrible person, though you have done something terrible. YOU need to love yourself. You deserve so much good in your life. You deserve every good thing God has in store. Though this may be more difficult for your family, there is no downplaying the shame and guilt you feel right now. You deserve to get better and to heal from the spiritual pain you are going through right now. Don’t let others downplay the pain you feel by saying “it doesn’t matter, you don’t need to tell anyone”. You know (not that) deep down the seriousness of what happened and what you have to do. you have already caused extensive damage... It is up to you now on what other consequences you will face. Tearing apart your family for this time on earth is awful, but pales in comparison to losing your family for eternity. God loves you so much and wants you to make the right decision here. I think it would be fair to call this a faith crisis as you decision will show whether you have faith or not in what you are taught. Is there a God? If so then confess. If there is no God, don’t worry about confessing and continue on with your life. If you go forward with confessing, strongly consider finding a good marriage and family therapist. If your husband refuses, get one for just yourself.

I wouldn't send anonymous flowers. To me that would be a little awkward... encroaching on creepy. If I were in your situation, I would go to her and say in a joking voice “I know you have a thing about not dating co-workers... but come on... look at me, I’m clearly an exception. There is this sweet axe throwing place around the corner, wanna go with my Saturday night?” Now that is just me and my personality, may not turn out well for everyone. But I would say definitely do no send anonymous flowers.

It’s actually interesting. I was a part of a group sex addiction recovery group (not 12 step) a while back to deal with my porn usage. There were people everywhere from occasional pornography viewers to consistent adulterers to a homosexual husband that abused his adopted son. Some were single, some married, some came alone and many came with their spouse if they had one. We had a lot of recovering addicts who had been sober for years come and speak with us. in every case where the addict was repentant and the spouse wanted to work through it, they said their communication had never been better and have never been more happy in their marriage. Many of the couples I. The group shared very similar experiences in their journey.

If someone must go to the bishop to confess viewing pornography, sure one must go see the bishop for sexting, even once. I remember once speaking with a couple. The husband had cheated on his wife and had been addicted to pornography for years without her knowing. He eventually told her, confessed everything. By the time I had spoke with them, he had been clean from porn for 2 years and was no longer cheating on his wife. They told their story and she told how difficult it was and all the things they had to do and work on in order to keep the marriage going and overcome this trial I’m their life. One thing they said (and is VERY common among sex addicts) is that in order to overcome the trial, they needed to become experts in communicating. I asked the wife “Do you love him more now than you did prior to knowing everything?”. She immediately started crying and said “absolutely”. You made a mistake and you continued to double down on that mistake. You need to bring it to the light. Saying that you don’t need to confess this to your bishop or to your husband is a strictly unsaintly thing to do. You have a responsibility to your children that overrides all other considerations. You need to keep your family intact, if possible. In order to do that, you must confess. If you don’t, you will spiritually die and will likely not find ourselves with them for all eternity, Of course, if you don’t believe in the teachings of the church and you think it is all hogwash, go ahead and keep hiding it. But if you have faith in Christ, faith in the restoration, and faith in the plan of salvation... you need to confess or you may very well lose everything.

I bought an Echo and Johnston Murphy pair of shoes and they last all 2 years (though I did have a car in Every area). I wouldn’t worry too much about a lot of misc accessories that sound convenient. My mom got me a towel that got cold when made wet, a convenient bag to store toiletries for when I do transfers, shoe bags, and some other stuff... never used any of them even once. The bare necessities are probably all that is needed and will be used. 10 pairs of garments is a great idea. More if he is going somewhere very wet. Lots of socks too.

Just keep it neat and clean 👍 no problem with long hair. If you ever feel like you are becoming immodest, the. Maybe change it up

I really appreciate this comment. I see holes in it, but they are all nit picky holes that could lead to another 9 pages of pointless discourse. But I think I get it. I’m still having a hard time with the idea that this was an all bad event and that it should never have happened. Cognitively I get it and I in many senses agree. But I still feel emotionally that this wasn’t a big deal. Surely the fact that I have two siblings that are LGBTQ+ is effecting my thought process in it. For better or for worst I don’t know.

And I see that and agree with that. So the idea is that if an organization only sort of takes people away from Christ, it’s ok to invite them to perform with us and in our venues? To me it sounds like we are saying “you can’t come to my party cause you will bring drugs and alcohol... but you can come cause your only going to swear at our party That isn’t a big deal.” Again, I’m not so much questioning the severity of homosexuality and Catholicism. I’m questioning the disallowance of a major sinful organization, yet the allowance of a minor sinful organization. This is where my questions come. If it comes down to that, its ok to let a slightly sinful group in our venues, but not a major sinful group, then that is fine, just say it.

I’m probably jumping back in the boiling pot here... but the point I (and I think@estradling75) was making was that if we should not be allowing an all gay men’s choir that represents LGBTQ+ on the grounds that it supports a way of life and belief system that will take them away from God, then we should be doing it on all levels, not just the worst. Stop meeting with members of other faiths because we are providing another platform for our members and children to become distracted from the true gospel. Stop hosting events on friendship where we invite leaders of other faiths to speak on our venues cause it allows our members to see and hear a man speak a slightly different gospel than the one we know to be true. Homosexuality is a grosser sin than being of a false church. But when embraced completely, they will both take you away from God. So why only oppose one? Why not oppose both? I think I have switched sides on this topic and am now against the gay choir having sung with our choir. But I still don’t see how we can reject one sinful organization in participating with us yet be ok with accepting another.

It will be “A Poor Way Fairing Man if Grief” but the verses will repeat randomly

You know... of everything I have read, I’ve actually really appreciated this. This actually helped me connect some beliefs I have about homosexuality. Literally... something just clicked in my brain and I’m beginning to see you points. By providing a stage with the Tabernacle at Temple Square, we are providing learning opportunities for others to learn to be homosexual... particularly saints. I’m ganna munch in this for a bit, but that comment actually... changed my mind..? I’ve never felt this online before.

I too believe it is learned. I fail to see how your point voids mine. If two people wish to engage in homosexual acts, no one is being forced to do anything or is being attacked. Pedophilia, adultery, rape, etc cannot say that. That is why I make the difference.

My belief is that the first presidency was aware that this was planned. Had they felt the same way you do, I’m sure they would have requested that it be changed. But it wasn’t changed. So either they know less about church events than we do... or they don’t care/are happy about it. i can’t possibly imagine pres Nelson feeling the same way many of you do and still letting it go. The only thing that would stop him is fear of publicity. Is our prophet motivated by public image? Is he just so I’m aware of what happening in the church? Or does it not bother him that this is happening? If you have a separate reason as to why this wasn’t shot down, please let me know.

I don’t think there has been, and after posting that, I realize they are different situations and non-comparable.

Neither is the Catholic Church or evangelicals... yet we invite them to events all the time. You can’t possibly be so blinded by your own opinion to not see how adultery harms more people than homosexuality. I find this comment very silly. If the first presidency was against such an action, it would not have happened. Either they supported it or didn’t think it was a big deal.