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I think you are right 👍 the rule was implemented for a specific player. whenever a bad roll was made or a bad thing happened... he would complain

I had a buddy who had a rule where if you argued with the DM, then “Diem The Mystical Dragon” comes down and steals the last item you used

Ya... stay away from the bread of life. The amount of carbs in that will sustain a man for a life time.

Don’t let the internet hear you say that

Oh I know, I didn’t give any weight to the claims in the interview. I was just making an observation.

Can you give me real life examples of this? I hear this all the time but have never experienced it beyond me prematurely judging someone of being guilty of this. I’ve never ACTUALLY seen it. I ask this because I tend to only hear this argument from people that don’t follow the rules... as a tactic to steer people away from their misdeeds by pointing a finger at another. Similar to how the arguement for the “spirit” is the law only comes from people who don’t like the “letter”.

The interviewer hates the church, the interviewy is a 70 in the community of Christ and is a contracted scholar that submits works for publications to colleges, the Church itself, and some other book publications about the church.

I literally just watched an interview where they spoke heavily about how the language in the Book of Mormon leans entirely on the KJV and how a few phrases and wording in The Book of Mormon (ie the usage of the term “bid you adieu” in Jacob 7:27, a French derived phrase) should not be found in “traditional” translations due to its “cultural usage” in the USA. I don’t give this particular source much merit, but it is just interesting how different people can come up with different conclusions depending on the picture they are trying to paint.

My heart leaped as this put into words something I have been seeing for so long. Where did you find this?

Here is a fantastic talk by the one and only Stephen Covey about this very topic: https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/stephen-r-covey_educated-conscience/

Have you ever prayed and asked God to teach you how to recognize the spirit in your own life?

I enjoyed the article

I always believed and knew for myself, but it wasn’t till I wasn’t till I was 18-19 that I developed a strong conviction. What brought it on? The spirit originally, but Lots of studying and logical thinking confirmed it. I realized a long time ago that everything in our church makes perfect sense when (and only when) you accept EVERY aspect and claim the church has to priesthood, doctrine, and the way it is run.

I edited it out of the list. I felt the Book was fairly insightful. Sure he could have done it without vulgarity, but I still enjoyed it and think of the lessons he teaches almost daily.

What about a mission?

Even before reading the article I suspected the content, then I read this: And thought maybe this was a new argument... well it wasn’t. Not a new opinion.

Another thing I have a good friend that was 3 kids and is raising them alone. She struggles to provide for them and is consistently needing assistance. The three kids are also very rambunctious and raising them is difficult. On top of all that the ex-husband is absolutely no help (and honestly is more harmful than anything else). She has it so hard right now. She had also been dating for a LONG time now and has gotten close to marriage on a few occasions but nothing ever worked out. I once offered her advice, I told her “One thing that is probably driving a lot of these guys away is the fact that you are always yelling at your kids.” She immediately got defensive and accused me of “not knowing what it’s like”. She felt justified in the way she acted. Well here is the thing. It doesn’t matter how justified she is in her actions. It doesn’t matter if she was beaten and abused her whole life, or if there are 10 rowdy kids that are always fighting...Guys with kids of their own don’t want to combine families with a woman that is always yelling at her kids. I would share the same thing to you... and I try to say this in the most kind way possible. no one wants to marry someone with low self esteem, someone that holds resentment to family or others, someone that is disobedient to commandments, or someone they can’t relate to socially. To me it appears you are doing great in changing these things, but the biggest thing is that you need to get over this “woe is me”. That is the a big relationship killer. And you definitely can! I’m ganna give you some links to sources I have used to grow and De-root negative habits I developed. These along with the basics like daily Book of Mormon study and regular temple attendance will be the most important thing (and of course... serve a mission if you haven’t) BOOKS Compound Effect:https://www.audible.com/pd/The-Compound-Effect-Audiobook/ 7 Habits If highly effective people: https://www.audible.com/ep/title/7 habits of highly effective people Extreme Ownership Audio Book: https://www.audible.com/ep/title/audible extreme ownership His Needs Her Needs: https://www.audible.com/pd/His-Needs-Her-Needs-Audiobook/ YOUTUBE CHANNELS Charisma on a command: https://www.youtube.com/user/charismaoncommand Improvement Pill: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBIt1VN5j37PVM8LLSuTTlw Practical psychology: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCir93b_ftqInEaDpsWYbo_g

@without_you Am I wrong in assuming you skipped serving a mission? I strongly believe that if you just drop all this girl and love stuff and serve a mission, a lot of people our issues would drop away when you come home.

I had a good friend complain once that the church asks us to do so much and there is so much we need to knows (this was in context of a teacher talking about how we need to read the Book of Mormon every day) My response was “spend more time studying”. My comment hit him hard but he was grateful for it. I believe that is the standard response to people saying they can’t get the studies they need done... but not the only response. When it comes to CFM, I do some HARD skimming. There are a dozen other things I want to study and learn about more than coming prepared for a discussion on Sunday school. Though I think it is important to be aware of the topic, I personally never let it get in the way of the topics I am feeling particularly passionate about in the study session. I also have a MASSIVE Sunday school class where the average age is 100years old and they all have some wise and deep comments to make (they have 10-15 wise catch phrases they cycle through every few months) so I don’t get much talking time anyway.

This guy ☝️👌

Yes, I believe that the boss could be inspired to hire me. But what happens when me and David are applying for the same job and we are both equally righteous but differ in qualifications. And the boss too is righteous and he is praying that he will get an accountant that will bring success to his company. Someone’s prYerbwill not be answered. No one has a hard heart, it’s just how it plays out. I don’t have details cause they were not provided. I cAn think of countless scenarios where the manager could have been the hard hearted one. I can also think of scenarios where the one being fired is the hard hearted one. My problem with the scenario is that it assumes that the employer, despite his temple recommend, was the hard hearted one. And it is not a matter of compassion (as I have no context on who was struggling more), but rather I am challenging your assumption that God was without a doubt inspiring the heart of the manager, but the manager was just too hard hearted. Just cause I pray to get or keep a job doesn’t guarantee God will inspire others to meet my wish. As in the sport scenario, my “answered prayer” is an unanswered prayer to the person that doesn’t get hired or gets fired in place of me. The seriousness of my example is not equal to your scenario. My intention was just to show that in your scenario, the father’s answered prayer would be the unanswered prayer of another and he would be left wondering the same thing the father was wondering. I am not arguing against the power of prayer, but against the sophistry that our prayers, no matter how well motivated, are not always answered. Not because someone is hard hearted, but because it just isn’t what’s god wants

What am overwhelmingly vague question x) my definition: Any decision we make. There is probably some context we haven’t seen. Perhaps he had made covenants and had received what we call the endowment, Justifying God’s actions as Jonah had broken his covenants.

I see... I’m not sold on the idea that God was actively trying to inspire the managers away from firing him. To me it appears that in the first case, firing him was better for the company than keeping him, and in the second case keeping him was more beneficial than letting him go. I don’t know that God would inspire a person (a saint or not) to go any particular direction in the name of one person’s prayer. I find this whole thing similar to a person praying to win a football game. The answer to his prayer may be to the detriment of another... which in the end (as we see in this story as well) none of which really matters. BUT... Assuming this hypothetical situation really did go down exactly as explained, I would just argue that perhaps the first managers were wicked and the second, even though they were not members, were righteous.

A hard heart. my confusion comes from how one would know that God was really trying to help this father’s employer not fire him. How do you know God was trying to tell the employer not to fire the father?

This is where I’m getting hung up. If the company I ran was losing money and I decided that the best option was to remove some of the under performers or people who didn’t match the culture I was trying to create, would it be “hard hearted” of me to fire people? Im not making this decision out of some vicious motive, but rather as a way to make sure me and my family’s well being is sustained and the company survives. I don’t think firing someone is a sign of a hard heart. It could be if there was anger or revenge sorivated somewhere in the mix, but that wasn’t presented in the scenario.