Fether

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    Fether got a reaction from zil in Religiosity and 'Goodness'   
    Oaks says it Best
    https://www.lds.org/ensign/1984/11/why-do-we-serve?lang=eng
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    Fether got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Would you let your child marry one?   
    My stance has always been with the church.
    “Do not take the chance of dating nonmembers, or members who are untrained and faithless. A girl may say, ‘Oh I do not intend to marry this person. It is just a “fun” date.’ But one cannot afford to take a chance on falling in love with someone who may never accept the gospel” (Miracle of Forgiveness, 241–42).
     
    “Date only those who share your goals and standards...Temple marriage should be your goal...Your chances for a happy and lasting marriage will be far greater if you will date those who are active and faithful in the Church”
    - https://www.lds.org/new-era/2001/07/qa-questions-and-answers?lang=eng
    Now obviously who My future children marry is not up to me... I would be openly against it but if it came to it, so would accept them into the family.
    My sister is seriously dating someone right now who isn’t religious at all and has said that he never wants to get married. I told her that some may say that, but no one says they never want to have sex. 
    She is happy dating this guy, but it won’t last. They will be separated at death and she cannot achieve eternal happiness married to him.
     
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    Fether got a reaction from Sunday21 in Amusing? Scriptures   
    There is the good ole account when Laman and Lemuel complained about going to get the plates, but didn’t complain when they went to get wives
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    Fether got a reaction from Anddenex in Amusing? Scriptures   
    There is the good ole account when Laman and Lemuel complained about going to get the plates, but didn’t complain when they went to get wives
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    Fether got a reaction from prisonchaplain in Would you let your child marry one?   
    My stance has always been with the church.
    “Do not take the chance of dating nonmembers, or members who are untrained and faithless. A girl may say, ‘Oh I do not intend to marry this person. It is just a “fun” date.’ But one cannot afford to take a chance on falling in love with someone who may never accept the gospel” (Miracle of Forgiveness, 241–42).
     
    “Date only those who share your goals and standards...Temple marriage should be your goal...Your chances for a happy and lasting marriage will be far greater if you will date those who are active and faithful in the Church”
    - https://www.lds.org/new-era/2001/07/qa-questions-and-answers?lang=eng
    Now obviously who My future children marry is not up to me... I would be openly against it but if it came to it, so would accept them into the family.
    My sister is seriously dating someone right now who isn’t religious at all and has said that he never wants to get married. I told her that some may say that, but no one says they never want to have sex. 
    She is happy dating this guy, but it won’t last. They will be separated at death and she cannot achieve eternal happiness married to him.
     
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    Fether got a reaction from Sunday21 in Prisonchaplain Prepares Presentation on Mormonism   
    @prisonchaplain did you forget to include the part that it is the only true church?
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    Fether got a reaction from mirkwood in Prisonchaplain Prepares Presentation on Mormonism   
    @prisonchaplain did you forget to include the part that it is the only true church?
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    Fether got a reaction from askandanswer in Prisonchaplain Prepares Presentation on Mormonism   
    @prisonchaplain did you forget to include the part that it is the only true church?
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    Fether reacted to prisonchaplain in Prisonchaplain Prepares Presentation on Mormonism   
    I figured that such was implied in the mention of the Great Apostasy/Restoration.
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    Fether got a reaction from zil in Prisonchaplain Prepares Presentation on Mormonism   
    @prisonchaplain did you forget to include the part that it is the only true church?
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    Fether got a reaction from An Investigator in Keeping the Sabbath Day Holy   
    You should read this (well everyone should):
    https://www.lds.org/ensign/1978/01/working-on-sunday?lang=eng
     
    Here is a highlight
    "If you are already in a job that requires Sunday work, you need to ask yourself the following:
    Is there an alternative to Sunday work? Can I change my schedule?
    If I did not work on Sunday, would it put an unfair burden on other employees? Could we trade Sunday shifts?
    If I quit this job, what would happen to my family? Are there other employment possibilities that could keep us secure and yet allow me to participate fully in the Church and obey the Lord’s commandments?
    Is there a ward where I can still attend some or all of my Sunday meetings, even though I work?
    Am I sure I’m not using my job as an excuse for laziness?"
     
    I live in Utah and I feel like finding a college level job in Utah where you can avoid working sundays is harder than anywhere else.
    I honestly can't think of a single job off hand where I don't work Sunday's. Of course we can say "I refuse to work sundays" but that leaves 5 other LDS members who have to work Sundays. 
    So what are my options if I hold to the no Sunday working rule? Well... I will likely go heavy into school debt, car debt, rely on the church welfare, paying rent would be impossible so I would have to live off funds from my parents who don't work sundays. My wife is now pregnant so we wouldn't be able to afford insurance so we would get Medicaid, maybe even need food stamps. Then when my child comes along, I'm still 2 years till I get into my career so how would I take care of my child and my wife? We also plan on having a second before we end school. All of this ofcourse is told to us by prophets that we shouldn't do either.
    Keeping the sabbath holy is not just a check list of does and do nots.
    ADDITIONAL REFERENCES:
    "For those who work on the Sabbath when it is not necessary, President Kimball said, “I wonder if money earned upon the Sabbath, when it is unnecessary Sabbath earning, might not also be unclean money"
     
    "When men and women are willing to work on the Sabbath to increase their wealth, they are breaking the commandments; for money taken in on the Sabbath, if the work is unnecessary, is unclean money." - Spencer W Kimball
     
    https://www.lds.org/ensign/2007/01/keeping-the-sabbath-and-keeping-my-job?lang=eng
    https://www.lds.org/blog/can-i-honor-god-while-working-on-the-sabbath?lang=eng
    - "The question itself sounds heretical. Yet many people work Sundays not out of a desire to displease God but more as a reluctant bowing to the practical realities of life. We know Jesus says “the Sabbath was given unto man for a day of rest” (Joseph Smith Translation, Mark 2:26 [in the Bible appendix]), but in our hyper-connected world in which it’s vogue to always be available by smartphone, the vision of a Sabbath of stillness and peace is remarkably difficult for many to experience every Sunday—even for Church employees, of which I am one."
     
     
     
    The official church stance seems seems to allow it unless it is avoidable or it is to increase our gain.
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    Fether got a reaction from Midwest LDS in The bottomless pit of sex/pornography addiction   
    I'll be one to say that no amount of restrictions will keep anyone from getting what they want. I work in a home for adults with mental disabilities. One of them isn't even allowed to have the internet password and he someone finds ways of viewing it.

    In a conversation in a YSA ward we had a while back, we talked about how the greatest filter is your own will. Anyone can find porn on a filtered computer, but a person will not view porn if he chooses not to. Harder said than done when the person is addicted. But what I'm saying is that filters are not a viable option. They only help in preventing triggers and unintentional exposures to porn. If anything, it gives the addict added security in lying to the person who set up the filter. For all they know, the filter works perfectly.
    Anyway. Ill state again what I said above. If you want to beat this with him. You both need to be living the gospel to its fullest. Read the Book of Mormon every day, prayer together and alone every day (MULTIPLE TIMES ). Become fully active in church (Don't just attend, participate  ). Go see the bishop if you haven't already. Go back to counseling :)
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    Fether got a reaction from askandanswer in The bottomless pit of sex/pornography addiction   
    I'll be one to say that no amount of restrictions will keep anyone from getting what they want. I work in a home for adults with mental disabilities. One of them isn't even allowed to have the internet password and he someone finds ways of viewing it.

    In a conversation in a YSA ward we had a while back, we talked about how the greatest filter is your own will. Anyone can find porn on a filtered computer, but a person will not view porn if he chooses not to. Harder said than done when the person is addicted. But what I'm saying is that filters are not a viable option. They only help in preventing triggers and unintentional exposures to porn. If anything, it gives the addict added security in lying to the person who set up the filter. For all they know, the filter works perfectly.
    Anyway. Ill state again what I said above. If you want to beat this with him. You both need to be living the gospel to its fullest. Read the Book of Mormon every day, prayer together and alone every day (MULTIPLE TIMES ). Become fully active in church (Don't just attend, participate  ). Go see the bishop if you haven't already. Go back to counseling :)
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    Fether got a reaction from zil in The bottomless pit of sex/pornography addiction   
    I'll be one to say that no amount of restrictions will keep anyone from getting what they want. I work in a home for adults with mental disabilities. One of them isn't even allowed to have the internet password and he someone finds ways of viewing it.

    In a conversation in a YSA ward we had a while back, we talked about how the greatest filter is your own will. Anyone can find porn on a filtered computer, but a person will not view porn if he chooses not to. Harder said than done when the person is addicted. But what I'm saying is that filters are not a viable option. They only help in preventing triggers and unintentional exposures to porn. If anything, it gives the addict added security in lying to the person who set up the filter. For all they know, the filter works perfectly.
    Anyway. Ill state again what I said above. If you want to beat this with him. You both need to be living the gospel to its fullest. Read the Book of Mormon every day, prayer together and alone every day (MULTIPLE TIMES ). Become fully active in church (Don't just attend, participate  ). Go see the bishop if you haven't already. Go back to counseling :)
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    Fether reacted to anatess2 in Is Handbook 1 secret?   
    Like Avada Kedavra.
     
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    Fether reacted to Vort in Is Handbook 1 secret?   
    My opinion:
    Handbook 1 contains instruction on how to administer in the Church. The contents do not apply to the membership in general, just to the leadership. There is not really anything "secret" in it. But as you know, if such policies were made public, there would be no end to busybodies lecturing the bishop or stake president or whoever on how he's not conducting himself or his office duties correctly. No one needs that kind of grief.
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    Fether got a reaction from Grunt in Is Handbook 1 secret?   
    So there are two handbooks (generally speaking, there are more).
    handbook 1 and 2
    2 is for all members of the church and 1 is for the bishop. 
    2: explains the order of the church, how meetings are run, explanations of callings, who can call who to what calling etc.
    1: is a how-to of sorts for bishops on how to run the congregation. As mentioned above, it’s a mixture of “do it this way”, “follow the spirit”, “do what brings members close to god”. This is not available to the church membership.
    Here is handbook 2
    https://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church?lang=eng
     
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    Fether reacted to JohnsonJones in Is Handbook 1 secret?   
    Just_A_Guy covers what I've heard and it makes sense.  In today's age where I've also heard one could simply download it, I personally do not know why it isn't available to the general church public.  They already have handbook 2 out there (which is basically the same idea).
    The other thing I've seen, though this is more personal opinion, is that some people when they utilize handbook 2 and would with handbook 1, is to see it more as doctrine or something akin to doctrine rather than guidelines for leaders.  They see the handbooks as something that the church is supposed to follow like the Four Standard works.  Unfortunately, this is something that is ingrained in some individuals as they see it at other places where handbooks of instructions (Such as their workplace) are in use.
    It is to avoid this appearance that the handbooks are the doctrine that we follow in the church, and it is in truth, the Scriptures and the guidance of the General Authorities that dictate what we do and how we live our lives.  In my opinion...
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    Fether got a reaction from askandanswer in Prophetic Priorities   
    Go take a shower and then go ask!
     

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    Fether got a reaction from Backroads in Girls in BSA   
    @The Folk Prophet
     
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    Fether got a reaction from Sunday21 in Prophetic Priorities   
    You also tend to hear these "priorities" more when you know you need to repent of something but choose not to. I had a friend who didn't want to serve a mission and complained cause he felt every talk in priesthood session was centered on serving a mission.
    But anyway. I feel like one that has always been in the back ground is home teaching. And magnifying your callings.
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    Fether got a reaction from Grunt in Prophetic Priorities   
    Go take a shower and then go ask!
     

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    Fether got a reaction from laronius in Prophetic Priorities   
    You also tend to hear these "priorities" more when you know you need to repent of something but choose not to. I had a friend who didn't want to serve a mission and complained cause he felt every talk in priesthood session was centered on serving a mission.
    But anyway. I feel like one that has always been in the back ground is home teaching. And magnifying your callings.
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    Fether reacted to prisonchaplain in How should Christians respond to political and cultural hostility?   
    We've had favor with government for over 200 years in the U.S., but now face the dismissal of our prayers and meaningless, or even partisan. We answer by loving God-neighbor-and enemy, by taking care of the widow and the orphaned, by not tiring in doing good works, and by lifting up the name of Jesus. We'll not be pigeon-holed into political parties or positions. I'm just a migrant laborer here--my true citizenship is in heaven.
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    Fether got a reaction from Backroads in Gentle Parenting   
    As soon as my child is born, I'm telling him he can either keep crying or have my respect.