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    Hello got a reaction from Mombe8 in Questions about Sealing Cancellation & Clearance   
    Also I should note that I am a covert so this was ALL so new and foreign to me. I would cry and stress over this. So I hope this gives you some relief. 
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    Hello got a reaction from Vort in Questions about Sealing Cancellation & Clearance   
    Also I should note that I am a covert so this was ALL so new and foreign to me. I would cry and stress over this. So I hope this gives you some relief. 
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    Hello reacted to Vort in Sealing after civil marriage   
    I'm not a sister, but I'll chime in, anyway. Your white temple dress is perfectly adequate. If you want to change into a somewhat showier wedding dress for pictures afterwards, that's probably fine as long as the dress is modest. Check with the temple.
    Fwiw, if it were me, assuming her sealing/temple dress weren't to be used for pictures, I would prefer my wife to wear a nice, non-showy dress for pics afterward.
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    Hello got a reaction from Sunday21 in Relief society hesitation   
    Thanks. I have ministering sisters. They’ve visited once. But it was awkward to say the least. I think it’s hard when they are all his ex’s former sisters and still her friends. It’s almost feels like they feel like it’s  a betrayal to her if they are friends with me. Things got a bit easier after she changed wards but nothing really got better. Even men that talk to my husband will completely ignore me. But I do have a good relationship with the missionaries and keep a week day set for weekly dinners. They also help me attending sacrament and Sunday school. 
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    Hello reacted to JohnsonJones in Relief society hesitation   
    I have a son-in-law that has a similar situation, but where ever he goes to church.  He tends to bring books to read.  I'm not sure if that is keeping in the spirit of the church, but it keeps him engaged and not as much worried about others in the class.
    It can be hard to be alone in Relief Society and other areas.  You may be surprised at how many others may feel similar. 
    This may or may not work. 
    Go to Relief Society and look to see if another lady (young or old or in between) is also lacking a friend or others talking to her.  Sit by her and be friendly.  Try to make friends with her.  It may be there are others that feel very similar to you and would welcome someone they could call a friend in Relief Society.
    I'm not sure if that would help, but it may be a possibility.
    This can be an EXCEPTIONALLY hard thing to do when one has anxiety.  In this instance, perhaps voicing this concern to the Relief Society President and asking for some help could aid you.
    I hope that you can find a friend or friends in the ward, and pray that you will at least find comfort in going to church.
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    Hello reacted to zil in Relief society hesitation   
    Hello, @Hello!  I'm so sorry for the trial you're having.  It's especially difficult because you cannot solve it alone.  I wonder if ministering assignments aren't a way to start to solve this problem.  Are you assigned as a ministering sister?  If not, please let the RS President know you want to be.  If you are, then you have a companion and sisters to whom you are assigned to minister.  You should also have sisters assigned to minister to you.  You can see all these assignments in your entry in LDS Tools by swiping over to the "MINISTERING" tab/section of your entry.  (Your husband and/or ward clerk can help you get LDS Tools set up on your smart-phone.  If you or your husband don't have a smart phone, the RS President (or any presidency member) can get you this information.
    By reaching out to your companion, to the sisters to whom you minister, and/or the sisters who minister to you, you can begin to make connections, and thereby have sisters to sit with on Sunday (hopefully at least one of these is in RS rather than all of them being in YW or Primary during the 3rd hour).  If by some weird fluke, they're all in YW / Primary during the 3rd hour, you can explain your concerns to the RS President and ask if should would make a change so that at least one of these people is in RS on Sunday.
    You might also consider going to RS and looking for someone sitting alone and asking her if you could sit with her.  I know this is all difficult when you are the newbie and everyone seems to know each other, but in my experience, this is the best way to resolve this problem.
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    Hello reacted to Iggy in Convert question- sealings   
    Don't worry about what she is going to convey. Your husband tells the truth, then let the Bishop, Stake President and the 1st Presidency sort it all out through prayer! My Hubby's ex was nearly impossible to even find - then with just one week before the cut-off date, she submits a tome rather than a letter. According to the Stake President it was 35 pages, typed in Times Roman 8 font on both sides!  Rambling, nearly incoherent phrasing and more curse words than any grown man would ever want to read!
    We were in the Phoenix/Mesa area, she was living in the most southern area of Oregon. She accused certain things, so Hubby was asked about them. She said, He answered. She claimed, he clarified. One thing ~ she had left the church, was not wearing her garments and had also sent in a Tome to her Bishop demanding to be removed from the church records just a year before Hubby and I married. So why the hold up? Her Bishop didn't consider her demands to be coming from a person who had all their wits about them.
    Once we got the go-ahead to go get sealed, we wasted NO time getting it done. Then for a couple of years after Hubby fretted that he would still be connected to her in the after-life. I finally took his concerns to the Stake Patriarch who was also Hubby's Mentor - he counseled Hubby to Let It Go and worry about the now here on earth and live towards being together in eternity with me. We married in Aug of 2004, we were sealed in May of 2006. We celebrate BOTH dates, when we remember 😁
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    Hello got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Convert question- sealings   
    No that’s not why they divorced. Too many issues to mention but nothing to that sort of effect however his ex has made it clear that she believes we were together before their divorce. We weren’t but you can’t reason with her.  She blames me for their divorce even though they were separated for more than a year before we even met. So naturally we worry that she will convey this to the bishop and presidency out of spite and delay the cancelation. 
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    Hello got a reaction from Vort in Convert question- sealings   
    So I am officially a convert... and am planning to be sealed to my husband. I know we have to wait a year from my baptism to be sealed BUT can he go ahead and ask for his clearance/cancelation now from his ex or is there an requirements beforehand? Do I have to have my temple recommend? I have a temporary one but of course not my official since I have to wait a year. 
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    Hello reacted to Chilean in Convert question- sealings   
    When the process starts he'll meet with the bishop, the bishop will do an application, then the stake president will receive that application and your husband will have an interview with him as well.
    The main thing here is the reason for his divorce to his last wife. I'm not asking because I want to know, but I want to ask the questions for you to know. Was the divorce caused by his transgressions? does that include adultery? was that adultery with you? with someone else?
    They will ask him those questions. If the reasons for his divorce were the reasons mentioned above the sealing wont happen for 5 years.  You wouldn't be able to start the process until after 5 years.
    If all those answers are: "no, that's not what happened". then the process is initiated and he gets interviews with bishop and stake president after filling out the application, and everything is sent to SLC, and when he gets a letter in the mail it will say Nay or Yay.
    I just had my first sealing cancelled, and got sealed to my current husband a month ago, the whole process took about 6 weeks.  
    Good luck!
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    Hello reacted to MarginOfError in Convert question- sealings   
    I have been involved in several of these applications. I have seen one take as little as a month from start to finish (the had been married 30 years); one took about three months (they had been married 20+ years and one was terminally ill). On the other end of the spectrum, some we never even sent to the First Presidency.
    I would advise you to expect the full process from start to finish to take anywhere from six months to a year. There's no policy that you must wait the year to get started, but I wouldn't send it to the First Presidency until you are close to tell year mark.
    I don't know of many instances of the ex spouse holding up the sealing. And even fewer where it was done out of spite. The most common reason I've experienced for an ex to prevent a clearance is when he/she presents credible evidence of unresolved transgression. In one instance, the reason for desiring the clearance/cancellation was, "I'm getting remarried and it isn't a proper marriage if I'm not sealed." The applicant clearly didn't understand that the sealing wasn't just "god's marriage." They seemed to feel entitled to a sealing by virtue of being married. 
    What your leaders and the First Presidency are looking for is evidence that your emotional and relational maturity is sufficient that divorce is extremely unlikely and that you have a firm understanding of the gravity of the sealing covenant. People who can demonstrate these characteristics don't have much trouble.
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    Hello got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Convert question- sealings   
    Thank you everyone. It’s a little overwhelming. And disheartening at times. I so badly want to be sealed. And it worries me that his ex could cause some conflict that wouldn’t let us get to that step. And it’s hard knowing that I have to wait. But eternity is worth waiting for. 
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    Hello got a reaction from Sunday21 in Convert question- sealings   
    Thank you everyone. It’s a little overwhelming. And disheartening at times. I so badly want to be sealed. And it worries me that his ex could cause some conflict that wouldn’t let us get to that step. And it’s hard knowing that I have to wait. But eternity is worth waiting for. 
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    Hello reacted to Maureen in Convert question- sealings   
    I'm adding a link, a fellas blog about what he learned going through the clearance/cancellation steps.
    http://brettsbigbadblog.blogspot.com/2017/06/lds-temple-cancellation-and-clearance.html?m=1
    M.
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    Hello reacted to Iggy in Convert question- sealings   
    Good article! For Hubby and me, we were both endowed when we met, and divorced for some time. He had to get a clearance from wife #2. It took nearly 1.5 years for the letters to and the interviews with. We were told that the 1st Presidency sets apart only one month a year to read requests - that was why the long wait. I was never asked to write, or even go to any of the interviews. That was because my ex was NOT a member of the church. The only interview I went to was after Hubby got his letter from the 1st Presidency. We went in to be interviewed by the Stake President, and were given our Live Ordinance recommends and told we only had One MONTH to set a date - go and get it done.
    Now, Hubby and I were married civilly - so this was just a sealing. One thing that was a bit of a shock to us was, the Stake President kept the letter sent to Hubby by the 1st Presidency. His letter from SL told him to keep it. Haven't a clue what he did with them. Don't really care. We asked the Stake Patriarch and Hubby's Bishop from the ward he was in when he got his endowment and our Home Teachers and Visiting Teachers and a sister who vacationed during the summer at my Branch in Oregon (she lives in Mesa) to be our witness's. So, we had 7 human witnesses, but that room that would seat about 20 felt like it was over full. His Grands & Greats, my parents, Grands & Greats & my little sister were all there spiritually too.
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    Hello got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Convert question- sealings   
    So I am officially a convert... and am planning to be sealed to my husband. I know we have to wait a year from my baptism to be sealed BUT can he go ahead and ask for his clearance/cancelation now from his ex or is there an requirements beforehand? Do I have to have my temple recommend? I have a temporary one but of course not my official since I have to wait a year. 
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    Hello reacted to anatess2 in Convert question- sealings   
    Hello, Congratulations!   Congratulations, Hello!  (That name is fun to play sentences with, hah hah).
    As far as requirements go, your husband is not required to cancel his sealing to be sealed to you. 
    In my opinion, his decision to cancel his sealing to his ex should be a separate decision from his decision to get sealed to you.  But that's just my opinion.
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    Hello reacted to Sunday21 in Convert question- sealings   
    @Hello So pleased that you are here! Congrats on your baptism!
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    Hello reacted to Grunt in New policies and changes   
    I'm new.  You folks are just changing things I haven't learned yet.  You'll get it all sorted out by the time I get there.
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    Hello reacted to seashmore in Missionary question   
    @Hello I second the advice given by @Carborendum and @Jane_Doe. 
    If you really feel a need to plant a bug, play the LDS Kevin Bacon game with one of them.  Do nothing more than name drop. "Oh, you're from Timbuktu?  My husband's brother lives there."  Or drop a line to your BIL, "Hey, I just found out one of our missionaries here is from Timbuktu!  Do you know Sister Lastname?"  If either are interested in making a connection at any point, they will.
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    Hello reacted to mordorbund in Missionary question   
    Converting a sister missionary into a sister wife for your sister's husband? Yeah, don't do that.
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    Hello reacted to NeuroTypical in Missionary question   
    After her mission is over.
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    Hello reacted to Jane_Doe in Missionary question   
    After her mission, go for it!
    It = introducing them and letting them take it from there.
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    Hello got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Wife wants a church wedding but I don't   
    I say happy wife happy life ? but in all seriousness if you don’t have any religious preference it stands that there should be no reasons why you wouldn’t get married in a church. It’s just a building if it has no religious meaning, correct? If it means that much to your wife and you love her then you should want to give her the wedding she dreams of. After all girls spend most of their childhood and adolescence dreaming about their wedding. 
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    Hello got a reaction from Sunday21 in Wife wants a church wedding but I don't   
    @harrypark I’m assuming your wife is LDS? If yes, then just be aware that by marrying you civilly she is giving up her ideal of a temple wedding given that she is marrying a non-lds member. So if that is the case, a church wedding seems to be a compromise. also it’d be beneficial to both of you if despite your non religious preference you did some research into her beliefs.