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    Isaiah Translation

    For what it's worth, here is my measly 2 cents. I am of the opinion that the translation of any scripture or sacred text does not have to be what we would call 100% accurate in order to also be considered "correct". If we take the Book of Mormon for example, Joseph Smith made the remark that "...the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth..." I believe it is not just the actual words that caused the prophet to make that remark, but it was more so the correctness of the doctrine contained in the text that makes the Book of Mormon the most correct of any book on earth. I could be mistaken, but I don't believe the Lord really cares about a changed verb or adjective here and there, as long as His defined doctrines are clearly understood. This is the main problem with the Bible...truth has been removed and transfigured due to the follies of man. Sometimes intentional...and sometimes unintentional. Different people may use different words to describe certain things, and adding in different languages only adds to the complexity. It is only natural to expect a small bit of difference between the BOM and KJV, or even the Bible written in Hebrew or Greek. Suffice it to say that Joseph translated from the small plates what Nephi wrote, and Nephi wrote what Isaiah wrote. The translation is correct.
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    Spiritual Bypassing

    I read Moroni 7 last night with my wife, and in verse 17 we read "...whatsoever thing persuadeth men to...believe not in Christ, and...serve not God, then ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of the devil" I'm not saying this woman is of the devil per se, but a message that gives no room for the Lord or even spirituality in general most definitely is. Elder Uchtdorf has said "...we can live with an understanding of our divine inheritance as children of God and with an awareness of our potential as eternal beings." I too like the "head in the sand" phrase. The day will come when we need to give an accounting of our life, and burying our heads (or our talents) in the ground will not prevent the Lord from seeing us and one day asking us what we did with our time here.
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    Spiritual Bypassing

    Possibly...however, after a bit of digging I found that the author is from Idaho. She may not be (or ever has been) a member of the church, but she definitely knows about us. Not that I'm saying this article is picking us out in particular, but I think it is safe to say she is at least somewhat familiar with LDS teachings...there is no way you can live in Idaho without being exposed to the faith in some fashion.
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    Spiritual Bypassing

    To me it is a bunch of hogwash, poppycock, balderdash, malarkey...take your pick. I could say the exact same things in this article apply to philosophy, which is nothing more than man's way of avoiding the real trials and questions in life. The only "proof" or reason to believe in the author's view is her word only. She has no ground to stand on, and her argument is, truly, very weak. At it's most basic and simple level, believing in God makes much more sense than mankind's way of trying to explain everything. Unfortunately, spirituality will continue to be mocked and attacked in greater amounts in the future. That isn't to say that God has a hand in all things...because I don't believe He does. I do believe in real coincidences, and sometimes things just happen to us for better or worse. That's part of life on this earth...and we all accepted those potential risks before we came here. Being a fanatic and thinking that every single thing that happens everywhere is all the will of God is actually contrary to His plan, and can ultimately lead people away from Him. Now, the author can say faith is just a shield if they wish, and perhaps there are some who use it that way; who say that faith "helps them" while deep down they are truly struggling with their belief in God. For myself, I know what I have felt in my life, and I am not confusing true spiritual promptings for mere emotionalism. The Holy Ghost has spoken to me, and I know it was not my own thoughts. I have also had many experiences in my life that prove to me that there is a God - far too many little details all fell into place (some years in advance) for said experiences to just be a coincidence. I love Alma 30:40-41. The more I think about this the more I believe it to be true. Too many things on earth denote that there is a cannot all be explained by chance or the opinion of one who has an axe to grind against religion.
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    11/20 - I am grateful for a good wife who continually serves our family. She has always been patient with me, and been willing to look past my faults. When our twins were born we had 4 children under the age of 4, and I was shortly thereafter given more responsibilities at work and also called as a counselor in the Bishopric. She has never complained about the stress she is under, and the difficulty of handling 4 young children by herself much of the time. Her sacrifices mean the world to me. 11/21 – I am grateful for the organization of the church and the progression of the Lord’s gospel. The church has so many resources in place that are able to help us and our loved ones stay on the covenant path and to progress. So many programs such as the perpetual immigration and education funds, humanitarian aid, Bishop’s storehouses, and disaster relief have lifted millions of people out of poverty and terrible circumstances. The fact that the scriptures, general conference messages, temple ordinances, and other church materials are available in hundreds of languages is a miracle – the Book of Mormon has approximately 112 languages, and the Bible over 700, with other portions having over 1,500 languages and dialects. So many things are evidences of the Lord’s love for us. 11/22 - I am grateful for the additional service opportunities that the Lord’s church offers us. I currently serve in the Bishopric, and have been anxious as of late to be released and receive a new calling. (our Stake President has let us know that their search for a new Bishop has begun as our Bishop will have been serving for 5 years in January) As I was conducting our Sacrament meeting on Sunday, I realized that this coming Sunday may be my last time doing so, and I felt a sense of gratitude for the opportunity I have had to serve those around me, and for the trust the Lord has in each of us to do His work. I have always appreciated my callings more when I was told I would be released from them, and I don’t realize the growth I experienced until I look back and see where I was before. 11/23 – I am thankful for the good people in this world who continually strive to help others. Politicians and civic leaders continually spout that they are the ones who truly care about people and know what is best…yet they never actually do anything beneficial for anyone but themselves. So many commonplace people are the ones lifting those with feeble knees and whose heads hang down. Much of this work is done in secret on an individual basis, and is truly the backbone of our society. So many church leaders (especially those leading youth) are kept up at night from worry as they totally devote themselves to serving others. Their efforts over the years have blessed me and my family greatly. 11/24 – I am thankful for a Father in Heaven who has the ability to truly love us. His ability to foresee what individuals and nations need in advance, and to put events in motion years before is amazing to me. His power and capacity dwarfs anything that mankind can comprehend, and yet His goal and focus is our welfare. It was not easy for Him to lose a part of his children before the foundation of the world. It was not easy for Him to know that Christ would be His only begotten Son; perfect without spot…and yet have to suffer more than any of His other children. It has not been easy for Him to witness the hate that His children have showed to both Him and each other for thousands of years…and yet His love is still extended to us.
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    The election

    Personally, I would be very surprised if a great division does not take place before the second coming. I don't think a war would be necessary...I don't think either side would actually fight to keep the other around at this point...but money and natural resources would be the deciding factors. Regardless, I cannot see our nation staying together as one before his arrival. States could divide as individuals, but I find it more likely that there will be 2 main groups (left and right) and states will choose which group to join - similar to 2 nations; though borders of like-minded states many not always touch, causing more problems.
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    The election

    True, but he is down approximately 90k votes with total reporting in over 85%. He would need to win at least 68% of the remaining votes to claim the state, and I don't see him making up that much ground when his current overall % is only 44%.
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    The election

    I thought Donald Trump had it in the bag last night, but it now appears that Joe Biden will win with exactly 270 electoral votes. 5 different battleground states may end up with less than 100,000 votes separating the two...some may even be between 25k - 50k. Very close race.
  9. Then we must all educate them as best we can. Pres Oaks was referring to the slogan/statement "black lives matter". People need to know that the phrase and the BLM movement are two different things. BLM only cares about self-aggrandizement through destruction...they don't give a rat's patootie about actual black lives...or anyone's life for that matter. If they did, they would be protesting the countless black on black deaths we see in Chicago every day.
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    Question on "Faith Crisis"

    The best advice or counsel I can give is to wait upon the Lord. Although He didn't answer Pres. Oaks' inquiries at the time, the answer did eventually come in the form of the ban being lifted. As he also said in that talk "As part of my prayerful study, I learned that, in general, the Lord rarely gives reasons for the commandments and directions He gives to His servants." Although a reason may not be given, He never leads those who truly desire to come unto Him astray...whatever that path might be. I cannot see how intentionally leading someone away from His church would be beneficial...but I cannot speak for Him. Also, make sure that your concerns are properly placed - are they with the Gospel and the Lord's doctrine, or with church policy? There are a couple of church policies that I do not personally agree with. However, I realize that my current position and view is limited, and I may not be seeing the big picture. Over time some of them have resolved, and I now know why things are the way they are. Some are not yet resolved, but I don't worry about them and put faith in the Lord's timing. There have been several times in my life (most when I was a missionary) when people have told me that they honestly prayed about the gospel, and felt that it wasn't for them. At that point I no longer tried to push our message, but simply accepted what they told me, and wished them the best. You cannot argue with a true answer from the Lord. Did they really receive a true answer, were they misinterpreting what they felt or pushing their own desires, or was it just an excuse to get us to leave them alone...only they and the Lord truly know. If the Lord has given you answers in the past, accept them, and do not continually press Him for constant reassurance with regards to every detail. Whatever your concerns may be, I would encourage you to do all of the basic "primary" things before making any decisions: pray with real intent, feast upon the scriptures, fast regularly, and provide service to others. I am not insinuating that you do not already do these things, but as we continually place ourselves in a position that is compatible with the spirit, guidance and direction tend to become clearer. The following is from one of my favorite conference talks given during my early months as a new missionary. "Like you, I have felt what King Benjamin meant when he said that we could become like a little child before God. I have prayed, as you have, to know what to do when choices that I faced would have eternal consequences. Over many years I have seen a recurring pattern in the times when the answers to such a prayer have come most clearly. Once, for instance, I prayed through the night to know what I was to choose to do in the morning. I knew that no other choice could have had a greater effect on the lives of others and on my own. I knew what choice looked most comfortable to me. I knew what outcome I wanted. But I could not see the future. I could not see which choice would lead to which outcome. So the risk of being wrong seemed too great to me. I prayed, but for hours there seemed to be no answer. Just before dawn, a feeling came over me. More than at any time since I had been a child, I felt like one. My heart and my mind seemed to grow very quiet. There was a peace in that inner stillness. Somewhat to my surprise, I found myself praying, “Heavenly Father, it doesn’t matter what I want. I don’t care anymore what I want. I only want that Thy will be done. That is all that I want. Please tell me what to do.” In that moment I felt as quiet inside as I had ever felt. And the message came, and I was sure who it was from. It was clear what I was to do. I received no promise of the outcome. There was only the assurance that I was a child who had been told what path led to whatever He wanted for me. Henry B Eyring, Apr 2006 General Conference
  11. There was nothing in Pres. Oaks talk that was controversial or confusing. Folks (and especially our kids) need to realize and remember that black lives do matter, (everyone's life matters and is important) but the organization that calls themselves "black lives matter" is not actually associated with that phrase, and could actually care less about the prosperity of black america. Their organization is all about destroying our country as we know it at any cost, and lifting themselves up through theft and violence. They, along with may rioters we see in places like Seattle - aka CHAZ, are today's version of the Gadianton Robbers - lazy, evil, destructive, and disgusting people. Black Lives Matter, but Black Lives Matter as a phrase and black lives matter the organization are two completely different things. The actions and messages of the latter are far away from love, tolerance, and acceptance. This group is exhibit A of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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    Biden Corruption Emails

    Cool your jets space cadet. Never said it was okay. Never implied it was okay. I have zero interest in debating anything. Just asked for your source. Have a nice evening.
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    Biden Corruption Emails

    Source? Studies I have read about that kind of thing are widely panned for their evidence being insufficient and conflicting, and for their conclusions being inflated.
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    Question on "Faith Crisis"

    This is in reply to no one in particular. I have never had (up to this point in my life) a "faith crisis". I have been told by the spirit several times that Jesus is the Christ, and that His church was restored to the earth by His prophet Joseph Smith. Each succeeding prophet since that time has held the keys necessary to move His work forward. It doesn't matter if a policy in the church changes, or if the world as a whole moves farther away from the principles of Christianity. The spirit has conveyed truth to me in a very clear way. I have received a witness the work is true, so nothing else matters. I take what comes my way with faith, and don't worry about asking why...why would I question a loving God who knows more than I do? Why would I not trust the answers He gave me? The efficacy or truth in those answers do not lessen over time, so why should my convictions? Why would I allow the opinion of another person in regards to a topic that has no real impact on my life or how I worship sway my testimony? Who really cares? Let them think what they think. The gospel is simple, and it is the adversary who constantly pushes pointless questions into people's minds - they are pointless because their answers cannot possibly be answered in this life, and their answers would really have no meaningful impact anyway. The evidences of the restored gospel that we do have strengthen my faith, but they are not my is the testimony of the Holy Ghost. Some may call me the prototypical sheep...just blindly following what the leaders of the church tell me to do. But, the fact remains that every single trial I have had in my life has been overcome as I put the Lord first and wait upon Him. When I follow the counsel from the living prophet, I am happy, and all things eventually work themselves out. Every part of my life is better because of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and I have seen the lives of so many who leave the church fall into disarray, emptiness, and confusion. I try to help them as best I can, but I do not let their their lives or actions influence what I know to be true. The church's message is true or it isn't; so we as a people need to stop forcing some middle ground to appear. It is hard at times to be a member of this church, but life is ultimately harder when you are not a part of it. Think back to, remember, and trust in the answers that a loving Father in Heaven has given to you...not in the philosophies of men.
  15. Pres Nelson's closing remarks of the most recent Sunday morning session of General Conference need to be read again by everyone. I will just quote one of his last sentences. "My dear brothers and sisters, as you choose to let God prevail in your lives, you will experience for yourselves that our God is 'a God of miracles'.” "Let God Prevail". Russell M. Nelson, Oct 2020 General Conference
  16. When "a quick glance at an underage girl's breast" is not considered nudity, then what is? Young girls dancing to provocative music in skimpy clothes while cupping their breasts, twerking, slamming their hips into the ground, and moaning = PORN. This film, those who made it, and those who put their children in it are corrupt and evil. This garbage will only progress from here. In a few years full topless and bare bottom shots will be considered okay because the kids and their so called "parents" will consent to it. Film studios and those individuals who are progressive and enlightened, will tell us that pornography is only the actual engagement in sex, not just seeing a naked body. "Those who try to censor this type of storytelling and art are bigots, and are trying to prevent true freedom". If anyone (whether on this forum or not) still has doubts, you need to wake the heck up. This film is pornography; child porn, period. Satan is working in broad daylight. The line in the sand has been drawn and gets clearer every day. Everyone needs to get their rears in gear and choose which side they are cannot serve both God and mammon.
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    Heavenly Parents

    Agreed. This question is not important in any way and is not pertinent to anyone's salvation or current standing in the world. The Lord has also asked that sacred things not be trifled with. Is the process ultimately important...yes. However, I prefer to ask questions whose answers will be able to help me grow and progress in the present. I have no reason to teach my 6 year old son about home insurance and income doesn't matter to him right now. Plus, he wouldn't understand it if I tried to tell him...and even if he was able to comprehend it, he doesn't have a reason to apply that knowledge at this time in his life, so it would have no real value to him. God will teach us about certain "mysteries" when it is appropriate and applicable. Also, we all need to be able to tolerate milk before moving on to meat...otherwise you might choke on it. This is the reason for many a person's apostasy in the church.
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    The Fall - Blessings or Punishments?

    It could be that eating the fruit was only labeled a transgression because it was only temporal in nature...that the effect would be allowing death to enter the world, and one day overtake their bodies. What was incorruptible was now corruptible, and it was because of this change that they could no longer exist in God's presence. Sin could relate to things more spiritual in nature...distancing ourselves from God spiritually when we practice behavior the Holy Ghost cannot abide. This is when repentance is needed, because we cannot overcome the spiritual gap that now exists on our own. Some temporal mistakes we make can mended, repaired, or even replaced. But the spiritual gaps that go along with many of our mistakes are unable to be bridged on our own...a mediator is needed. Another way to possibly look at it is this: there is a difference between free will and agency. All humans, and even animals, exercise free will every day; these are the basic decisions we make that have no real consequence. "Should I have corn flakes or fruit loops for breakfast?" "Should I wear Brown shoes or Black shoes today?" A dog may choose to sniff this tree instead of that makes no difference and has no impact, but he still makes a choice, even if it is done subconsciously. Agency on the other hand takes into account choices that have lasting effects in regards to our spiritual growth...choices that take place when we are enticed by the light of Christ, or the adversary. "Should I steal this or pay for it, hurt that person or turn the other cheek, lie or tell the truth, watch more funny cat videos on YouTube, or read from the scriptures, pray or not pray?" Or, it could simply be a scenario that Pres. Oaks mentioned when he said "These words are not always used to denote something different,..."
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    The Fall - Blessings or Punishments?

    Correct. They knew that they were transgressing when they partook of the fruit...God told them specifically not to partake of it. I think Pres. Oaks puts it very well below... “The contrast between a sin and a transgression reminds us of the careful wording in the second article of faith: ‘We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression’ . It also echoes a familiar distinction in the law. Some acts, like murder, are crimes because they are inherently wrong. Other acts, like operating without a license, are crimes only because they are legally prohibited. Under these distinctions, the act that produced the Fall was not a sin—inherently wrong—but a transgression—wrong because it was formally prohibited. These words are not always used to denote something different, but this distinction seems meaningful in the circumstances of the Fall” (Oct 1993 General Conference)
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    Conference October 3-4, 2020

    In the Book of Mormon we read that Christ came to the Americas in the Thirty Fourth year after the sign of His birth. In 4th Nephi, we read that the "great division" among the people came in the Two Hundred and Thirty First year, which is approximately 200 years after Christ personally instituted His church among them. Hopefully a great division doesn't occur among our people; but my mission president taught me several times that 4th Nephi is a type (or example) of both the last dispensation and the Millennium, even if the years don't add up or match exactly. I don't know how far away the Lord's coming is, but things are definitely speeding up, and it wouldn't surprise me if some who are now upon the earth live to see it. Everyone best get their homes in order.
  21. The ability to bless the sacrament in the home is no longer a general or "blanket" thing that will be taking place. Stake presidents have been asked to start getting members back to church to meet together. Our Bishop is no longer authorizing anyone to perform the ordinance in the home unless there is a reason for it. (e.g. being in an age sensitive group, having newborn infants, past/current exposure to the virus, etc...) He had to tell some folks no yesterday and it was a difficult situation for him to be in.
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    The Law of Consecration and Stewardship

    Agreed. Consecration is not socialism...far from it in fact. All persons have complete control over their own property and earnings. People are not asked to give all of their earnings to the church, only to have the church divvy it back out "equally" while they keep much of it like governments would do. Once your own necessities are met, you are then asked to give your excess to those in need. Could the church ask for everything...yes. But the goal is not to have the church dictate everything to us. Rather, it should be a proactive cooperative mode between families. We should all be actively engaged in a good cause and help our Bishops in seeking out the poor and needy. And, those who are in need cannot be slothful...they must put forth true and honest effort in supporting themselves. The Bishopric doesn't look up your tax returns for the past year before issuing you a temple recommend to make sure that 10% was paid...all we ask is "are you a full tithe payer". If you say yes, then we move on. The law of consecration is a principle that is based off of trust and a covenant between you and the Lord. There are many people in the church who are already giving all of their discretionary income to others, and would give everything if it was asked of them. Abraham was truly willing to sacrifice anything and everything for the Lord, but ultimately did not have to. What he had sacrificed prior, along with his demonstration of faith and true commitment, was enough for the Lord. Are we just as willing as Abraham to do what we are asked? I scoff at those who say "bring it on" with regards to the law of consecration, when they themselves have never been able to magnify a simple church calling, never agree to help clean the church building, or never, ever, visit someone just one time for home and visiting teaching / ministering.
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    How would you answer this?

    A very good point. I have never thought of that before.
  24. It is a very hard thing to manage. In our ward we have tried to be sensitive to those who feel like everyone should wear masks, but do not want to be too heavy handed with those who feel otherwise...and vice versa. Most people who are scared about covid related stuff just stay home all the time anyways...they wouldn't come to our meetings even if they would be the only ones there. We want as many as possible to attend Sacrament meeting. For the most part, everyone has worn masks (begrudgingly), social distanced, and we have had little issue with anyone. There have been some problems, but overall it has been a good experience. However, since the brethren have asked us to wear masks in public in our area, the Stake President came out yesterday and said that until further notice, individuals must wear masks if they want to be present in Sacrament meetings. If you don't want to wear a mask, you will be asked to leave and watch the meeting broadcast from home. We are not looking forward to enforcing this next week, and know that there will be some drama with certain "don't tread on me" individuals. No one wants to be the "bad guy" telling someone that they are not able to come into the chapel to worship. Ultimately though, we came to the conclusion last week in Bishopric meeting that it isn't our job to make everyone feel happy. The brethren have given us guidelines, and we simply need to act like adults - have faith, be obedient, and follow our leaders. Hopefully this whole thing blows over by next year once the flu and RSV season (and the election) are over.
  25. Last year the PBS show Arthur made Mr. Ratburn gay. He had a gay wedding with his husband and all of the kids were so happy for him saying it was a great thing. Drives me crazy how so many shows, people, and associations are now forcing this issue with no visible outside pressure to do so. Sexuality has no place in elementary school programming. Arther is no longer watched in our home, and PBS will be cancelled if another show does the same thing. It will not be many years until pedophilia us not viewed at as evil. It will of course start with celebrities and those who have pull in the media. We will be told that we should better understand those who are attracted to children. We will hear "they are such good people, and they can't help the way they feel." More freedom will also be encouraged among young children, including things sexual in nature, and the mixed messages will in turn cause more mental illness. I'm not trying to be preachy, but I feel strongly about protecting our children due to the damage I have seen from pedophilia and gender confusion. A family in our stake has left the church because they wanted their daughter, who thinks she is a boy, to be given the priesthhood. We also had a brother in our ward have his membership revoked last month due to child pornography. The world will soon be a much more difficult place to live.