LDSGator

I'm fairly sure that the answer is no, it's not legal. I'm also fairly sure that as long as there is sufficient room and no property damage takes place, most cops won't waste their time ticketing someone for doing so. Maybe @mirkwood can provide insight, or at least give an informed opinion.

I agree with notifying management or even corporate.
I appreciate you not wanting cancel culture, but in my view it's the same about letting the cook know the food is uncharacteristically and truly awful. (Glass in the soup sort of deal)
You're doing them a favor and letting them know there's a problem.

Reporting this to higher management is not cancel culture.  It is accountability for terrible behavior.  Imagine if I refused to take a report from someone while I was at work due to their race.  Would it be cancel culture to complain?

well yes actually... I miss the days I thought you were a girl.

Right. 
 
As a child we tend to think there are good and bad choices, and there are. 
 
You grow up a lot when you realize that in some circumstances, there are bad, and very bad choices, and you are forced to make one of them. 

@Vort, should you ever get the chance to ask one of our church leaders these questions, I hope you decide to do so.  Then come back and tell us what they say!

Right. 
 
As a child we tend to think there are good and bad choices, and there are. 
 
You grow up a lot when you realize that in some circumstances, there are bad, and very bad choices, and you are forced to make one of them. 

Not every gay person (adults) in the Church is “struggling” with same sex attraction. They are aware of their feelings and they ACCEPT IT and continue LIVING. It is not a constant battle for many and they don’t want to be seen as addicts “recovering” or “struggling”.

In my line of work, I see young men and young women struggling to feel they’re not broken, and seeking (desperately in some instances) the tender love of a mother and father. They long for support from parents and family.  

Sometimes they do have understanding parents who are cognizant of the difference between loving their child and supporting a lifestyle they don’t believe in. Many parents believe that showing any kind of care or concern for their child is automatically a way to support homosexuality. They use these weapons to manipulate their vulnerable son/daughter. When it doesn’t work out, a few of these parents clearly state that their child is now dead.

I see adults as well and many in our Church.  The experience is a bit different, they are more grounded and they know where they’re standing.  Most of them do want to remain in the Church and they are very much aware that they might not be able to find an eternal companion - but just like Liv, they work every day to be better disciples of Christ. They have callings, they help those in need, they go to the Temple, and they are supported by their leaders. They are in good standing with the Lord and yet… time after time a few people within the Church shows them it is NOT good enough and never will be even if the Almighty God says they can enter His house.

The response from the legal and human rights fraternities and from the Indian community has forced the government to backtrack. The Prime Minister has recently said that no one would ever be punished to the full extent allowable by this law and that the ban would almost certainly not be extended beyond the two weeks that have been announced.

@scottyg
To be fair, as a young man in Catholic school we were lectured to quite frequently that we were sinful, lecherous, lazy, immature...while women were virtuous, mannerly, pure, wonderful...it got old.  It also got a little silly, if I’m being honest. We’d make jokes about it, even the girls would.
 
The staff and church leadership at the school was too (Naive? Clueless? Politically correct? Stupid?) to see that girls would tease one another into eating disorders and also pressure the boys for sexual activity. 
No, I have no idea how LDS teach their kids simply because I’m not a parent. But, if you constantly tell me how bad I am don’t be shocked when I act that way. After all, I’m just doing what you said and what you expect. So....
 

@scottyg
To be fair, as a young man in Catholic school we were lectured to quite frequently that we were sinful, lecherous, lazy, immature...while women were virtuous, mannerly, pure, wonderful...it got old.  It also got a little silly, if I’m being honest. We’d make jokes about it, even the girls would.
 
The staff and church leadership at the school was too (Naive? Clueless? Politically correct? Stupid?) to see that girls would tease one another into eating disorders and also pressure the boys for sexual activity. 
No, I have no idea how LDS teach their kids simply because I’m not a parent. But, if you constantly tell me how bad I am don’t be shocked when I act that way. After all, I’m just doing what you said and what you expect. So....
 

@scottyg
To be fair, as a young man in Catholic school we were lectured to quite frequently that we were sinful, lecherous, lazy, immature...while women were virtuous, mannerly, pure, wonderful...it got old.  It also got a little silly, if I’m being honest. We’d make jokes about it, even the girls would.
 
The staff and church leadership at the school was too (Naive? Clueless? Politically correct? Stupid?) to see that girls would tease one another into eating disorders and also pressure the boys for sexual activity. 
No, I have no idea how LDS teach their kids simply because I’m not a parent. But, if you constantly tell me how bad I am don’t be shocked when I act that way. After all, I’m just doing what you said and what you expect. So....
 

My 7 year old daughter is .... well 7 and impatient.  She hysterically sobs when we leave Grandma's house like they'll never ever see each other again.  I'm sad when we have to leave too, even though I don't sob and understand the bigger picture.  I do like being at my folks' house and having them right there in-person. 
When somebody finishes their mortal journey,. people are sad that they no longer are right there in-person.  That's just natural- we like seeing our loved ones and hanging out.  Yes, we Saints know that we'll see them again and have that bigger picture, which greatly alleviates the bigger picture sadness.   But it doesn't mean we can't also be temporality sad in the moment of loss.   

That's awesome. 
 
 
I need my eye soap! 

I figured it was so a Covid mask fit on more securely??
brilliant beard = check!
magnificent mane = check, check!
Pre-covid NT...

Y'all are on to me.   This is actually me:

Yeah, but we're not talking about @LDSGator.

I’m sorry you had to deal with that. It’s a heartbreaking and frankly, unchristian thing to say to someone. Shows a chilling lack of empathy. 

Beautifully said. 

I love your compassion for her, that speaks very highly of you  
You ask “what are we to do” but then you mention that you don’t believe in therapy or medication. These are common remedies, and the church has no problem with them. 
 
Have you listened to Elder Hollands talk, “Like a Broken Vessel?” An AMAZING talk by an amazing man. Deals with mental illness issues. 
 
I’m praying for your friend, and for you. Mental illness is so, so hard. 

To be fair, a large minority (or, at this point, maybe even a slight majority) of LDS under 40 wouldn’t care. Offline and face to face, people tend to be much more polite and less blunt/confrontational.

So even if someone did care, they’d either be quiet about it or, much more likely, they’d open their mouth, and be called out for their behavior by other members. LDS are usually extremely polite, Rudeness or any kind wouldn’t be tolerated. 
 

That’s awesome.
And imitation is the highest form of flattery, so thank you. 
 
:: takes a bow ::

Look at this plagiarism. What, do you write for the New Republic or something? 
 
(seriously everyone, Google “Ruth Shalit” . Major drama there in the 90’s)

@NeuroTypical, thank you. Your response was incredibly insightful. You, my friend, just showed all of us what Christlike empathy and understanding is all about. 

Are you trying to teach me a lesson by claiming that an R rated movie has merit? Because that’s what it sounds like.