(take 2)Mormon president questions

[Guest saintish]

a couple hypothetical questions:

1. If a Mormon were elected president what ward would he be in?

2. Given the presidents busy schedule do you think he would be given permission to hold his own sacrament meetings?

3. what about temple attendance, would the secret service have to escort him while in the temple? what if there are no or not enough LDS secret service agents?

Just a couple of things i was thinking about recently.

(my apologies for the Previous post this should comply with the rules)

[pam]

The moment that a certain name pops into the conversation this thread will be closed. But thanks for rewording your questions. Let's keep this strictly hypothetical.

[Guest saintish]

not a problem

[pam]

Haha saintish..I'm not worried about you...but I know how these threads go. :)

[Vort]

The moment that a certain name pops into the conversation this thread will be closed. But thanks for rewording your questions. Let's keep this strictly hypothetical.

My...is this the reason only Mormon names ever yield?

Signed,

-Very ordinary reasoning, too

[pam]

I guess I don't understand your question Vort.

[Guest saintish]

me either, i was just afraid i was the only one

[pam]

Actually I'd be interested in knowing the answers to your questions. I've wondered the same things in the past. I don't know how they would handle such things.

[Vort]

Sorry if you don't understand. Not much to do about it, I suppose.

Apropos of absolutely nothing, acrostics are fun!

[estradling75]

We have never had a Mormon President so this is all speculation

Back when I served a mission in the DC the White House was covered by a branch. Whatever replaced that branch now would be the location he should go. Of course the Church would most likely work with the Secret Service to make sure security is good enough and that might require a relocation.

While permission has been given for people (mostly the sick) to take the sacrament elsewhere... the entire meeting probably not. Most likely it will answered with whatever they figure out for question 1

That would depend entirely on how secure the Service Service felt the temple was. If they feel the need for lots of man power then probably not. But if he could get buy with 1 or 2 in the temple then more likely.

Of course if a Mormon president comes with alot of trusted Mormon friends/advisors/staff that could easily change the population dynamics causing various boundary changes and ward/branch alterations

[classylady]

We have never had a Mormon President so this is all speculation

That would depend entirely on how secure the Service Service felt the temple was. If they feel the need for lots of man power then probably not. But if he could get buy with 1 or 2 in the temple then more likely.

Of course if a Mormon president comes with alot of trusted Mormon friends/advisors/staff that could easily change the population dynamics causing various boundary changes and ward/branch alterations

Aren't there quite a few Secret Service that are LDS? I imagine he could have endowed Secret Service go through the temple with him.

[Guest saintish]

I suppose its not at all unlikely that the church would bend over backwards to accommodate a mormon president. as long as the secret service could screen every one who went in to the temple and could watch all the entrances/ exits it wouldn't really be necessary to have more than one or two escorts, they probably wouldn't need to be armed either.

I think its sad that they would have to screen temple worthy members or that any temple worthy member would want to harm another member.

[estradling75]

Aren't there quite a few Secret Service that are LDS? I imagine he could have endowed Secret Service go through the temple with him.

I've heard that... I do not know how true that it.

I have heard that for security clearances being LDS is a positive. (Clearly it take more that that for a clearance)

[beefche]

I'm wondering if the time as president, he would not attend the temple. To everything there is a season, and sometimes that includes the temple. As a missionary, I was not able to attend the temple as there wasn't one close by (had to travel many hours and through other countries to attend one). As a young mother, most are unable to attend the temple regularly.

I'm thinking he may not be able to attend due to his schedule, security for himself, as well as keeping the temple a place of reverence (meaning, having tons of security and possibly closing down areas of the temple to accommodate him would be disruptive).

[estradling75]

I'm thinking he may not be able to attend due to his schedule, security for himself, as well as keeping the temple a place of reverence (meaning, having tons of security and possibly closing down areas of the temple to accommodate him would be disruptive).

That could very well be true... It would all depend on the Secret Service's take on what would be required. Something we can only really guess at

[classylady]

I'm wondering if the time as president, he would not attend the temple. To everything there is a season, and sometimes that includes the temple. As a missionary, I was not able to attend the temple as there wasn't one close by (had to travel many hours and through other countries to attend one). As a young mother, most are unable to attend the temple regularly.

I'm thinking he may not be able to attend due to his schedule, security for himself, as well as keeping the temple a place of reverence (meaning, having tons of security and possibly closing down areas of the temple to accommodate him would be disruptive).

I agree "to everything there is a season". But, I wonder, what if one of his children or grandchildren were getting sealed in the temple--wouldn't he want to attend? I would imagine there would be some sort of accommodation made for him/her--btw, we're all assuming the president would be a man--it could possibly be a woman.

[Just_A_Guy]

My...is this the reason only Mormon names ever yield?

Signed,

-Very ordinary reasoning, too

That took me a while, Vort. But 'twas witty, very witty.

I'm thinking he may not be able to attend due to his schedule, security for himself, as well as keeping the temple a place of reverence (meaning, having tons of security and possibly closing down areas of the temple to accommodate him would be disruptive).

I'm thinking it might not be such a big deal. Temples have few entrances; all the SS would have to do would be to perform a security sweep after hours the night before, and then post security details at each entrance until the President leaves. Problem solved.

[Jenamarie]

For the Temple thing, I imagine they could just have him/her go in "after hours", like stores sometimes do for celebrities. It'd be him/her, some security, and some Temple workers. Done this way, he/she wouldn't be disrupting anyone else's Temple experience, and the Secret Service would have an easier time keeping things adequately secure.

[MarginOfError]

a couple hypothetical questions:

1. If a Mormon were elected president what ward would he be in?

Washington DC 3rd Ward

2. Given the presidents busy schedule do you think he would be given permission to hold his own sacrament meetings?

As you can see, this isn't a particularly large building. Given the distraction of security, press, and the inconvenience to the neighborhood of having the motorcade parked out front, I imagine arrangements would be made for him to receive the sacrament at some other place and time.

Of course, the question of would he attend sacrament meeting with his assigned ward assumes that he isn't working on Sundays. My guess--if he chooses to continue receiving the sacrament, it will be placed on his schedule around other meetings.

3. what about temple attendance, would the secret service have to escort him while in the temple? what if there are no or not enough LDS secret service agents?

I don't know the answer to this. My guess is that his temple attendance would be scaled back some. I can see the church authorizing non-LDS secret service agents into the temple, seeing as they are quite impressive guardians of secrets. But again, the logistics of presidential security and motorcade waiting outside the temple for so long would suggest that it would be more polite if he didn't attend while actively serving as POTUS.

[Blackmarch]

a couple hypothetical questions:

1. If a Mormon were elected president what ward would he be in?

which ever one covered his place of residency, or most used residency.

2. Given the presidents busy schedule do you think he would be given permission to hold his own sacrament meetings?

he probably could if there was no way for him to attend any of the local meetings

3. what about temple attendance, would the secret service have to escort him while in the temple? what if there are no or not enough LDS secret service agents?

I dont think nonmember secret service would be able to go into the building, however they would be stationed around it. .... and 10 to 1 I would wager at that time there would be at least 1 member who was part of the secret service who would end up being in the right place at the right time so that he could go through the temple with the president.. just by "chance". If there wasn't I don't know what the pres would have to do to leave the protection of the service for a short time.

as for how often he could, it would most likely not be much.

Just a couple of things i was thinking about recently.

(my apologies for the Previous post this should comply with the rules)

Edited June 3, 2011 by Blackmarch

[KrazyKay]

When I was 8 years old, I wanted to be the first female president and first LDS president. I was asked the question about going to church and the temple. At that age my answer was that Sunday is for church, I would go to church like anyone else and refuse to do any work on Sunday. And that I would go to the nearest church where ever I happened to be at at that time but my records would be where my home was (which at that time was just north of Denver). Concerning the temple, I said I would still go to the temple once a month - same day each month, at the temple closest to where I was at the time.

I suspect if we have a LDS president, that he/she would probably do the same as I had said I would do when I was 8 and wanted to be president.

[Guest saintish]

Concerning the temple, I said I would still go to the temple once a month - same day each month, at the temple closest to where I was at the time.

the secret service whould throw a fit if you had that kind of routine, they dont want the President to be in predictable location over and over again if they can help it.

[KrazyKay]

the secret service whould throw a fit if you had that kind of routine, they dont want the President to be in predictable location over and over again if they can help it.

I know that now... I didn't know that when I was 8 years old... nor did I know about all the negativity that is associated with politics not to mention all the anger some people have towards mormons. At that age, I thought everyone didn't care what religion someone was as long as they went to a church. I was very naive at that age, lol.

Not to take this off topic... I should have expanded what I believe now... if we have a Mormon president, he/she would probably attend church on Sunday where ever he/she happens to be that Sunday... but I don't think he/she would have time for regular temple attendance. He/she might attend the temple once or twice a year - time permitting... most likely it'll be when he/she takes time for a family trip.

Edited June 3, 2011 by KrazyKay

[NeuroTypical]

FBI, CIA, and probably secret service too, all have LDS working for them in greater percentages than our basic demographic. Our pool of workers contains more language skills, more experience, greater amounts of education, and a stronger sense of nationalism and patriotism than most other places you can look, so these places recruit the heck out of us. I doubt there would be any problem finding enough temple recommend holding secret service guys to enter the temple.

[dahlia]

Our pool of workers contains more language skills, more experience, greater amounts of education, and a stronger sense of nationalism and patriotism than most other places you can look

Yay! Go Mormons!