Planned Parenthood Top Doctor caught selling body parts.

[Blackmarch]

An issue more important than LGBT marriage, Abortion.

I thought this deserves some awareness.

the original source says that the Top Doctor that PP Ceo refers to (and praises) uses partial birth methods and sells body parts from the abortions.

Source:

http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/2015/07/planned-parenthoods-top-doctor-praised-by-ceo-uses-partial-birth-abortions-to-sell-baby-parts/

however this page seems to be down, and the site was experiencing problems earlier.


Alternate:

http://liveactionnews.org/breaking-planned-parenthood-director-caught-on-tape-selling-aborted-baby-parts/



Source footage:

If my post seems unemotional at the moment it's because i'm mostly at a loss for words.
I'm still trying to find out how genuine this is... but it seems legit so far.



PS no idea how much PP CEO knew about this. but I imagine that after this got out the ceo will be putting distance between the doctor and company. Edited July 14, 2015 by Blackmarch

[Guest]

This is too horrific to even process. 

 

This issue and human trafficking seem so impossible to stop, but yes, are so important. 

Edited July 14, 2015 by Eowyn

[prisonchaplain]

Even as a googled this story seemed to be spreading.  I want to see it hit mainstream media outlets.  When that happens we'll know there is too much truth to the story--even they can't bury it. 

[prisonchaplain]

Alas, Planned Parenthood has responded:  http://hotair.com/archives/2015/07/14/planned-parenthood-responds-nucatolas-just-talking-about-reimbursements/

 

From the mainstream media though...the usual...crickets:  http://thefederalist.com/2015/07/14/blackout-media-go-dark-on-planned-parenthood-organ-trafficking/

Edited July 14, 2015 by prisonchaplain

[Blackmarch]

ya no peep of it on the major news stations.

[Leah]

I couldn't watch it all the way through.  There are simply no words to express how disturbing this is.

 

Pro-abortion like to pretend that what a woman is carrying is not a baby, it's not a "life".  And now we are calling it "tissue" to again obscure the reality of what is actually happening.   So when it's expedient to one's agenda, it's somehow not a human being in any way, but then magically becomes human again when you can make a profit off of selling the "tissue"?

 

They try (and I've read comments elsewhere) to make it sound like there is no profit involved.  Seriously?  No one is interested in profit-making in medicine or research?  It's all done for altruistic reasons and the astronomical costs of medical care and drugs have nothing to do with someone making a profit?

 

If I had been the one doing the interviewing, I would have been hard-pressed not to reach across the table and strangle that woman.  The women are "happy" to donate the tissue because they feel they are doing something good?  She's got her slick PR/PC spiel down pat and it's all very calculated.   I can just imagine the line of BS they feed to the women undergoing the abortions.

 

As I stated, I cannot really find the words to describe how much this video disturbed me.  And I am not buying into the "this is just standard practice in the medical field and we're just compensating for the costs incurred for transportation, etc." line of malarkey.  I've had organs removed during surgery and have signed releases for the disposition of the "tissue" (when my husband had his leg amputated, we were told the leg would first go to the lab, then would basically be cremated) but there just seems to be something so....sinister.....about this.

 

It just left me with a really, really bad feeling.

[NeuroTypical]

I'm not very impressed with PP's statement.

 

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/statement-from-planned-parenthood-on-new-undercover-video

[Guest MormonGator]

 On most issues I'm a libertarian and I have a strong sense of "Leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone." but abortion is where I draw the line. This is sick. 

[Vort]

Any MSM coverage of this yet?

[Guest MormonGator]

Any MSM coverage of this yet?

Unsurprisingly not. 

[EarlJibbs]

CNN has it on their site now. 

[Palerider]

Does anyone watch CNN ?? Lol!! Just teasing.

[prisonchaplain]

Newsweek spent the first half of its article attempting to discredit the group that put out this video.  It's too new, it's biased, it's heavily edited, etc. etc.  Planned Parenthood could not have done better if they had produced the article themselves.

[Just_A_Guy]

Kind of puts the gay marriage thing in perspective, doesn't it?

 

America has been damned, as a nation, since 1973 at least. 

[Guest MormonGator]

I used to be pro-choice but I've moved to the other side over the years. I'm not sure how you can argue that a fetus isn't a human life. 

 

That said, I know it's a controversial view and I apologize. Many of my good friends are pro-choice. 

Edited July 16, 2015 by MormonGator

[Blackmarch]

"They tell mothers that it’s just a “clump of cells” being removed, but then sell[or donate] them as human organs to the highest bidders. Talk about cognitive dissonance."
wow.
HotAir - this article seems to analyze the incriminating conversation well. (thanks for the reference PC)

One of the beasts in the water is you have to decide what it means to be human, and/or as well as what it means to be a person. I cannot think of any definition which you could apply to all people outside that cannot be applied to those who aren't born yet.


Sounds like there is more to come:
CBS
HotAir

[Blackmarch]

Videos 2 and 3 have been released, and I hear that 4th has been as well.

 

[bytor2112]

Dr. Mengele's work lives on....but let's talk about that evil dentist and Cecil instead

[Blackmarch]

Ya I know. I wonder how we compare to ISIS in amount of innocents snuffed out.

[mordorbund]

One of the beasts in the water is you have to decide what it means to be human, and/or as well as what it means to be a person. I cannot think of any definition which you could apply to all people outside that cannot be applied to those who aren't born yet.

 

 

At the risk of sounding callous, can someone articulate what is sickening about this beyond abortion? Those that are involved in this controversy obviously don't feel that they are performing murder, nor anything like unto it (to use the Mormon phrase). So what is disgusting about this particular practice? Is it that the parts are reused? I hope not, because I intend to be an organ donor at my death. Is it that the tissue is sold? Then we should also be up in arms about plasma donors. Is it because the donor in this case is not notified that the aborted fetus will be sold? I can relate to that, as I just recently discovered that my donated blood is in turn sold, but I just as recently discovered that this knowledge doesn't change my behavior any.

 

So what's the offense here?

 

[just realized I should have probably used a different quote, but I like this one because it spells out exactly what the difficulty is in defending abortion (anyone remember that Journal of Medical Ethics entry on post-birth abortions?)]

[The Folk Prophet]

At the risk of sounding callous, can someone articulate what is sickening about this beyond abortion? Those that are involved in this controversy obviously don't feel that they are performing murder, nor anything like unto it (to use the Mormon phrase). So what is disgusting about this particular practice? Is it that the parts are reused? I hope not, because I intend to be an organ donor at my death. Is it that the tissue is sold? Then we should also be up in arms about plasma donors. Is it because the donor in this case is not notified that the aborted fetus will be sold? I can relate to that, as I just recently discovered that my donated blood is in turn sold, but I just as recently discovered that this knowledge doesn't change my behavior any.

 

So what's the offense here?

 

[just realized I should have probably used a different quote, but I like this one because it spells out exactly what the difficulty is in defending abortion (anyone remember that Journal of Medical Ethics entry on post-birth abortions?)]

 

The point is interesting. But I'm not sure it's valid.

 

If I killed my wife to be free of marriage so I could party-hearty, it's pretty despicable.

 

If I also then sold her organs does it not increase the despicability...er...despicableness...um...despica.........how despicable it is?

 

Ah...but what if we made both of the above legal? Any less despicable now?

 

But the point is, indeed interesting. I do admit. The selling of the whatever has little resonance to me as compared to the horror of the "murder" in the first place.

[Vort]

The specific problem is that the videos demonstrate that Planned Parenthood illegally traffics in human body parts.

 

The larger issues is, of course, that elective abortion is a horrifying evil, and that the gullible (read: stupid) American public has willingly swallowed the line that has been fed to it for two generations, that these babies being killed are merely "tissue" or "a clump of cells". Strange that you can derive usable human body parts from a mere clump of cells.

[Guest]

The point is interesting. But I'm not sure it's valid.

 

If I killed my wife to be free of marriage so I could party-hearty, it's pretty despicable.

 

If I also then sold her organs does it not increase the despicability...er...despicableness...um...despica.........how despicable it is?

 

Ah...but what if we made both of the above legal? Any less despicable now?

 

But the point is, indeed interesting. I do admit. The selling of the whatever has little resonance to me as compared to the horror of the "murder" in the first place.

 

But this isn't what is despicable.  The despicability (ugh) is how this came about.  Remember, abortion, like gay marriage, was not voted on but decided by the SCOTUS.  Laws surrounding that decision was put in place specifically to prevent people from getting pregnant for the purpose of selling their fetus (same as donating plasma according to SCOTUS as it was ruled by the SCOTUS that until the fetus is "viable" it isn't a baby... and we know lots of people who are down on their luck and donate plasma to get a much needed $35).  At that time, pro-choice people were like, of course nobody would do that!  That's despicable!  Well... it won't be long now.

Edited July 31, 2015 by anatess

[Guest]

The specific problem is that the videos demonstrate that Planned Parenthood illegally traffics in human body parts.

 

The larger issues is, of course, that elective abortion is a horrifying evil, and that the gullible (read: stupid) American public has willingly swallowed the line that has been fed to it for two generations, that these babies being killed are merely "tissue" or "a clump of cells". Strange that you can derive usable human body parts from a mere clump of cells.

 

This doesn't fly with the pro-choice crowd.  Donating an organ - kidney, blood, whatever - is completely moral and they are usable human body parts without the organ itself being anything other than tissue...  donating a fetus, to these people, is the same as donating a kidney.

Edited July 31, 2015 by anatess

[Blackmarch]

You don't kill your kids to sell their blood plasma. And they aren't talking about something that's done in the first couple of weeks of developement.

There people who view humans no more than objects to be used as well... Nothing wrong with that either?


or is the question more towards "it's not so bad once you get past the gag reflex" sort of thing?

Edited August 3, 2015 by Blackmarch