Sunday21 Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Dear Bros and Sis's, Recently a poster on this net mentioned hearing a gardener swearing. If you hear such a thing, please walk up to the recommend desk and ask to talk to the temple president. Our temples are well run and we do not permit such behaviour. Thank you! Jane_Doe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 50 minutes ago, Sunday21 said: Dear Bros and Sis's, Recently a poster on this net mentioned hearing a gardener swearing. If you hear such a thing, please walk up to the recommend desk and ask to talk to the temple president. Our temples are well run and we do not permit such behaviour. Thank you! I guess I'll never be a temple gardener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 (Actually, from the source post, it sounds like the gardener was at the stake center next door, though it's hard to be certain of that.) Either way, I agree, the workers on, in, and around temples and their grounds are expected to hold themselves to a higher standard, and if we're the only ones available to help them live up to that standard, it behooves us to help them live it, and help the people in charge know they need help living it. Sunday21 and Backroads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 1 hour ago, zil said: (Actually, from the source post, it sounds like the gardener was at the stake center next door, though it's hard to be certain of that.) Either way, I agree, the workers on, in, and around temples and their grounds are expected to hold themselves to a higher standard, and if we're the only ones available to help them live up to that standard, it behooves us to help them live it, and help the people in charge know they need help living it. While I certainly agree with this, I'm kind of amused by the idea of this salty old gardener. unixknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) There are far worse things that LDS temple gardners have done. Surreptitiously letting anti-Mormon photographers enter the building after hours, for example (that's what precipitated Talmage's writing The House of the Lord--anti-Mormons were threatening to release their pictures; and the Church decided to beat them to the punch by releasing a set of high-quality "authorized" photos with accompanying text). Edited September 3, 2016 by Just_A_Guy zil, Sunday21 and NeedleinA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 FWIW, we have a good friend who is a temple gardener. They certainly are required to have a temple recommend and maintain a standard of behavior. The kind of guy JAG is talking about will have a lot to answer for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirkwood Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 "Don't judge me because I sin differently than you." unixknight and NightSG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Do the gardeners and people who build the actual temple need to be members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 17 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Do the gardeners and people who build the actual temple need to be members? Don't know about gardeners. Construction workers do not, but swearing is not allowed (nor breaking the Word of Wisdom) and these are enforced (no doubt, gently and kindly). Sunday21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, zil said: Don't know about gardeners. Construction workers do not, but swearing is not allowed (nor breaking the Word of Wisdom) and these are enforced (no doubt, gently and kindly). Most contractors I know are great guys but they don't follow the teachings of the church, that's for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiterateParakeet Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 hours ago, MormonGator said: Do the gardeners and people who build the actual temple need to be members? The Grounds Maintenance people are members with temple recommends. They show one another their recommends every morning. This is necessary because part of their job is cleaning off the roof of the temple (and that requires going inside.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirkwood Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Direct employment by the Church requires a TR. There are subcontracted jobs that can be/are filled by non TR holders. Sunday21 and Backroads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 19 minutes ago, mirkwood said: Direct employment by the Church requires a TR. There are subcontracted jobs that can be/are filled by non TR holders. Liar. I'm the new prophet and my temple recommend expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 A distorted interpretation of the scriptures could lead to the conclusion that there is divine precedent for the gardener's actions. (New Testament | Matthew 21:19) 19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away. (Old Testament | Genesis 3:17) 7 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; (Old Testament | Genesis 5:29) 29 And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed. NightSG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Liar. I'm the new prophet and my temple recommend expired. Being the prophet is a volunteer calling, not a job. Gator, why do I have to tell you these things? Sunday21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, askandanswer said: Being the prophet is a volunteer calling, not a job. Gator, why do I have to tell you these things? You are hereby excommunicated pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, MormonGator said: You are hereby excommunicated pal. Happy to be excommunicated from any church of which you are the prophet Sunday21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, askandanswer said: Happy to be excommunicated from any church of which you are the prophet Ouch. That's harsh! Edited September 3, 2016 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirkwood Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Liar. I'm the new prophet and my temple recommend expired. I didn't vote for you and neither did wife #3. SilentOne and Sunday21 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, mirkwood said: I didn't vote for you and neither did wife #3. Wives 1, 2, 4-8, 10-12 did. 3 and 9 abstained. @zil has put them on notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, askandanswer said: Happy to be excommunicated from any church of which you are the prophet and don't worry about it my friend. If they ever gave me a calling more important than being the dude who makes the weekly programs, I'd excommunicate myself. Edited September 3, 2016 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 15 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Liar. I'm the new prophet and my temple recommend expired. Prophet or not, I'm still not going to give you a new recommend. Sunday21 and SilentOne 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted September 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 13 minutes ago, MormonGator said: and don't worry about it my friend. If they ever gave me a calling more important than being the dude who makes the weekly programs, I'd excommunicate myself. Makes the programs! That's a snazzy job. Imagine the little jokes you could slip in. Accidentally put some of your friend's names in new callings? And make up new callings. Ward dung remover ...Bro Sam Howard, I had a friend who went to Durham University in England. There was a ceremonial but paid position of dung collector. This person was appointed each year in an assembly and was given their ceremonial shovel which they then had to carry or I guess lean on, during assembles. Backroads and SilentOne 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sunday21 said: Makes the programs! That's a snazzy job. That was my calling in my old ward, actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 7 minutes ago, Sunday21 said: . Accidentally put some of your friend's names in new callings? Sunday, don't assume too much about Gator's social life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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