temple picture

[anatess2]

1 hour ago, jewels8 said:

If I have come across as judgemental, and I can see how it can be taken that way,  then I am sorry. 

I accept the apology but I'm not letting you off that easy.

There's no other way to interpret this statement but as unrighteous judgment to ALL those who do not see a problem like the prophets and apostles and Elder Talmage as @mordorbund graciously quoted for us above.  In the quote below you are calling Elder Talmage to repentance to come closer to Christ for his offense to Eve.  So, it's either you change your communication style if you didn't mean what you wrote below or figure out why you see a problem when the prophets and apostles do not and align yourself accordingly.  Saying I'm sorry is meaningless if it is not accompanied by some action.

7 hours ago, jewels8 said:

It is more Christ-like to want a modest more doctrinally appropriate picture.  I think if people humble themselves and are spiritually sensitive they would agree

Not saying certain people aren't that way, but the closer we come to Christ, the more we can see the problem. 

 

By the way, the Quote button is to the left of the Edit button below.  Use them as needed.

Edited September 8, 2017 by anatess2

[The Folk Prophet]

The dress is blue!

 

Edit: Actually the dress is white and gold: Proof:

 

Edited September 8, 2017 by The Folk Prophet

[person0]

53 minutes ago, Vort said:

Here's what I see:

Looks perfectly proportional and correctly positioned to me.

Now that I have looked at it more closely, I think the leg lines would be more accurately outlined like this:

[zil]

38 minutes ago, person0 said:

Now that I have looked at it more closely, I think the leg lines would be more accurately outlined like this:

But then the foot angles are off in weird directions.  Maybe we could agree she's just stumbled over something.

(Do you suppose Brother Brigham is rolling his eyes right about now?)

[Guest LiterateParakeet]

3 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

We're debating Eve's modesty and her leg...arrangement (Vort's been smoking something again)... But what about Adam's nakedness??

Where's the equality!!!?

I was wondering the same thing.  His six-pack is very handsome...     

[Vort]

5 hours ago, person0 said:

Now that I have looked at it more closely, I think the leg lines would be more accurately outlined like this:

A glance at Eve's forward foot should be enough to convince you that it's her right leg forward. Or else her toes are on backward.

[Vort]

5 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

The dress is blue!

Edit: Actually the dress is white and gold: Proof:

At the risk of reopening old wounds: There is no doubt that the colors in the picture are indeed gold and a very whitish purple. I was absolutely gobsmacked when I was finally convinced that the actual dress was indeed blue and black. Truly astounded. I was perhaps even more impressed that some people were able to infer that, despite the colors being very obviously gold and white(ish). Somehow, their brains were wired so they could see, not what the picture showed, but what was actually there.

I took The Dress to heart, as a living example of how we can honestly see what is before our eyes in a completely correct manner, and yet miss the deeper and more important ultimate truth. Why do we need prophets? The Dress shows us why.

[Maureen]

38 minutes ago, Vort said:

A glance at Eve's forward foot should be enough to convince you that it's her right leg forward. Or else her toes are on backward.

It's obvious the artist was challenged when trying to show body perspective for Eve since her legs definitely do not match well with her hips.

M.

[Vort]

4 minutes ago, Maureen said:

It's obvious the artist was challenged when trying to show body perspective for Eve since her legs definitely do not match well with her hips.

I disagree. They match perfectly, as my own (less-than-artistic) outline demonstrates.

[Guest]

On 9/8/2017 at 10:56 AM, Just_A_Guy said:

I think Jewel is thinking of a Tiffany stained glass window in (IIRC) the main hallway outside the Celestial room, by the elevato

I know this is the only "picture" of Adam and Eve in the temple I asked the question because I was trying to see of @jewels8 even knew what she is talking about. I get a feeling through this post and another post she posted that she is trolling us. To say this is a picture when it's obvious a stained glass window and to indicate it is seen during the session  (which it isn't, you see it mainly when exiting the celestial room) indicates that jewels8 doesn't really know what she is talking about and may just be trying to make us upset and argue.

 

Anyway, I now will never look at this beautiful stained glass without thinking of Eve's legs/feet! 

Edited September 10, 2017 by miav

[person0]

1 hour ago, Vort said:

A glance at Eve's forward foot should be enough to convince you that it's her right leg forward. Or else her toes are on backward.

You are correct.  It seems to me then that the disconnect is caused by the way the cloth drapes around the body.  This is the most reasonable explanation as to why I see the image with the legs reversed.

[MrShorty]

5 hours ago, LiterateParakeet said:

I was wondering the same thing.  His six-pack is very handsome...     

LP, you may have just shattered my faith in woman-kind. I previously believed that only men were so shallow -- maybe even lust-driven -- as to notice such things. How must you react to Arnold Friberg paintings? I think I am going to have body image issues now due to my lack of chiseled pecs and abs.

Edited September 9, 2017 by MrShorty

[Guest]

Honestly, I believe the leg appearance is due to the shin bone being detailed as the left leg would be.  So @zil is correct in believing it to be a left leg.

But @Vort is correct about the toes.  It appears to be a right foot.

So, we now notice the limitations of some media when depicting certain features.  So, in addition to all the very thoughtful answers thus far, I'd encourage @jewels8 to consider giving an artist a break when critiquing his work.

[Sunday21]

I feel a calming peaceful spirit when I look at this picture. I wish that I lived closer to SLC so that I could visit in person. Someday!

[zil]

6 hours ago, Carborendum said:

Honestly, I believe the leg appearance is due to the shin bone being detailed as the left leg would be.  So @zil is correct in believing it to be a left leg.

But @Vort is correct about the toes.  It appears to be a right foot.

I don't actually believe it's a left leg - it looks like a right leg, but it's in the wrong position relative to her right hip.  If it's meant to be a left leg, then yeah, it looks wrong - and not just the foot.  (I'm starting to feel bad for the poor artist we're beating up. )

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, zil said:

I don't actually believe it's a left leg - it looks like a right leg, but it's in the wrong position relative to her right hip.  If it's meant to be a left leg, then yeah, it looks wrong - and not just the foot.  (I'm starting to feel bad for the poor artist we're beating up. )

Yeah,  well, I don't really feel like we're beating him up.  I think that there are limitations of the medium of stained glass.  And that's what we're noticing.  Given those limitations, I think he did rather well.

[Vort]

10 hours ago, person0 said:

You are correct.  It seems to me then that the disconnect is caused by the way the cloth drapes around the body.  This is the most reasonable explanation as to why I see the image with the legs reversed.

I think this is probably the best explanation. The limb positioning is fine; the artist could perhaps have done a bit more with the robe to emphasize the underlying flesh.

[The Folk Prophet]

12 hours ago, Vort said:

At the risk of reopening old wounds: There is no doubt that the colors in the picture are indeed gold and a very whitish purple. I was absolutely gobsmacked when I was finally convinced that the actual dress was indeed blue and black. Truly astounded. I was perhaps even more impressed that some people were able to infer that, despite the colors being very obviously gold and white(ish). Somehow, their brains were wired so they could see, not what the picture showed, but what was actually there.

I took The Dress to heart, as a living example of how we can honestly see what is before our eyes in a completely correct manner, and yet miss the deeper and more important ultimate truth. Why do we need prophets? The Dress shows us why.

FWIW, my brother (who teaches art and lighting at BYU) threw this together back at the time. Cover one side and look and then cover the other side and look. It's very easy to see it both ways:

It really was a fascinating experiment in perception. In point of fact, the literal colors in the picture were a light purplish blue and a dark gold, but the perception of it based on the surrounding lighting caused people to see it differently.