Guest MormonGator Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-france-britain-launch-strikes-syria-trump-013255933.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 International politics are messy and brutal. anatess2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 Oh, by the way, I blame Bush. mirkwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 If the missiles miss their targets there could be lots more new burning bushes in Sinai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) I supported the invasion of Iraq and no apologies for it. Saddam was a monster who had to go. Sorry @Vort, I'm not as liberal as you think I am. Edited April 14, 2018 by MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/russia-warns-of-consequences-for-us-led-strike-on-syria.html This is one of the many reasons the air strikes are a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, MormonGator said: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/russia-warns-of-consequences-for-us-led-strike-on-syria.html This is one of the many reasons the air strikes are a bad idea. ETA: Quote from the article Quote The Associated Press, citing a Russian media outlet, quoted a top Russian official as likening Trump to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler. Why waste time when you can just go straight there? (ETA: "there" being argumentum ad Hitlerum) Edited April 14, 2018 by zil Clarify where that second quote came from. mirkwood and Fether 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, zil said: Why waste time when you can just go straight there? For the record no, I don't think Trump is Hitler and no, I'd never say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, MormonGator said: For the record no, I don't think Trump is Hitler and no, I'd never say that. Sorry, didn't mean to imply otherwise. I edited my post to clarify that that's a quote from the news article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, zil said: Sorry, didn't mean to imply otherwise. I edited my post to clarify that that's a quote from the news article. No worries, just making my own views clear as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2018 Report Share Posted April 14, 2018 I just thought of an argument that would go a very long way in the press to support this strike. Quote Any time chemical weapons are used, they change the environment for the worse. And we are all effected by these chemicals that will remain in the environment for extended periods. There is no justification for these. Their sole purpose is to kill and harm. There are no redeeming qualities to such weapons. As such, we are justified in protecting the environment and our lives any time chemical or biological weapons are used by any nation or organization. This combines the environmental argument and the gun control argument on a global scale. Yup try to get the liberals to NOT buy into that one. I don't know if it was necessary. I do believe it was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 18 hours ago, Carborendum said: I just thought of an argument that would go a very long way in the press to support this strike. This combines the environmental argument and the gun control argument on a global scale. Yup try to get the liberals to NOT buy into that one. I don't know if it was necessary. I do believe it was bad. Ahem. Me liberal. Me support. Thank you for listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirkwood Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 All those years ago, Syria should have been target #2 not Iraq. Or maybe made them both target #2 at the same time. Russia has gotten used to trumpeting and having Obama tuck what little tail he had between his legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 What I find most amusing is this, what Justin Amash posted from his FB page yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Well, the good news is I've never been to Syria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted April 15, 2018 Report Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, Grunt said: Well, the good news is I've never been to Syria. If things get really bad, I'm praying for you bud. You and all the troops. My opposition to military action in Syria doesn't mean I don't have great respect for the troops. Two of my best friends are veterans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Sunday21 said: Ahem. Me liberal. Me support. Thank you for listening. I would actually argue that you are not. I'd argue that you're a Conservative, Canadian, Socialist. Almost all the things that you would oppose about Conservative American thought are based on either socialism (free market/guaranteed income) or the differences between Americans and Canadians (gun control). Take that out, and you'd be a fine conservative. Edited April 16, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Carb, i thought you'd retired from the military a while ago. Were these your missiles or did you just borrow them from your neighbour? zil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 52 minutes ago, askandanswer said: Carb, i thought you'd retired from the military a while ago. Were these your missiles or did you just borrow them from your neighbour? @mirkwood's been having a sale. Sunday21 and askandanswer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirkwood Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, zil said: @mirkwood's been having a sale. I lost my missiles while fishing. Fether and zil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 10 hours ago, Carborendum said: I would actually argue that you are not. I'd argue that you're a Conservative, Canadian, Socialist. Almost all the things that you would oppose about Conservative American thought are based on either socialism (free market/guaranteed income) or the differences between Americans and Canadians (gun control). Take that out, and you'd be a fine conservative. Hmmm. Well Conservatives support the established order. Is that your definition? Or are you using another? I am not a socialist. I do not want the government to touch anything unless: 1) there is a very good reason for doing so, 2) we are desperate and nothing else thus far works But I think perhaps part of the difference is coming from a smaller country. It is easier to fix social problems in a small country. For example, we know personally all of our homeless in my city. We are building a huge shelter in downtown and hoping for the best. But I can understand why people turn away when you have a lot of homelessness. JohnsonJones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatess2 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Sunday21 said: Hmmm. Well Conservatives support the established order. Is that your definition? Or are you using another? Conservatism in the US is "support of the established order" - the thing in quotes is called the Constitution. But because the US Constitution is a document that limits government then being a Conservative in the US is actually closer to being a classic Liberal than a classic Conservative. Yes, @Grunt disagrees with me on this - I still have a lot to teach him . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fether Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 12 hours ago, mirkwood said: I lost my missiles while fishing. Did you catch anything? mirkwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Sunday21 said: Hmmm. Well Conservatives support the established order. Is that your definition? Or are you using another? I am not a socialist. I do not want the government to touch anything unless: 1) there is a very good reason for doing so, 2) we are desperate and nothing else thus far works But I think perhaps part of the difference is coming from a smaller country. It is easier to fix social problems in a small country. For example, we know personally all of our homeless in my city. We are building a huge shelter in downtown and hoping for the best. But I can understand why people turn away when you have a lot of homelessness. Whatever you are @Sunday21, we all adore you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, MormonGator said: Whatever you are @Sunday21, we all adore you. Thank you! Your adorability quotient is at max! Ceiling effect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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