Vort Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/uk-general-election-2019/2019/12/12/cc5ecb98-17ae-11ea-80d6-d0ca7007273f_story.html Midwest LDS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Sounds like a clear victory, but isn't it just another dang clear victory? I am no expert on UK politics, but how many times does this guy have to win his election before they'll let him be Prime Minister? Vort and Backroads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I'm more fearful of the US-left Media-Industrial-Complex's reaction. It might be good if they avoided any stimulants--including coffee, tea, and energy drinks for the next few days. KScience and Vort 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted December 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, prisonchaplain said: I'm more fearful of the US-left Media-Industrial-Complex's reaction. It might be good if they avoided any stimulants--including coffee, tea, and energy drinks for the next few days. Truly a word of wisdom. mordorbund 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 I’ll wait until after the egg is well and truly laid before I start my cackling. Vort and Midwest LDS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Just_A_Guy said: I’ll wait until after the egg is well and truly laid before I start my cackling. I, on the other hand, am not widely known for my wisdom. Midwest LDS and Just_A_Guy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 My friends and I have been talking about this all night. Worst showing for Labour since 1931. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Am I wrong or is the reason American media is so upset is because POTUS is the Boris Johnson of the USA? Vort and Midwest LDS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
person0 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 I don't generally concern myself with the politics of inferior countries but I suppose I can make an exception in this case. 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 After the boxing match is over it's easy to say "Oh, I knew this guy would win." No you didn't. No one expected this. Dennis Skinner lost his seat. That's like Ted Kennedy losing Massachusetts. Even people who would have voted for the Tories (like me) are in complete shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 There's got to be a better way to get Woad back in style. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/13/snp-sturgeon-says-johnson-has-no-mandate-to-take-scotland-out-of-eu.html?fbclid=IwAR09rFh_vjzoz3ovmR5KTZz3AGvluZ3RHGqSH-VGXpcYix6TbOfr1GqShxo Midwest LDS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mores Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 hours ago, Vort said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/uk-general-election-2019/2019/12/12/cc5ecb98-17ae-11ea-80d6-d0ca7007273f_story.html 1 hour ago, NeuroTypical said: There's got to be a better way to get Woad back in style. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/13/snp-sturgeon-says-johnson-has-no-mandate-to-take-scotland-out-of-eu.html?fbclid=IwAR09rFh_vjzoz3ovmR5KTZz3AGvluZ3RHGqSH-VGXpcYix6TbOfr1GqShxo So, if I can project parallels to 2020, would this not mean that the Republicans will end up having a supermajority in the House (if that even means anything legally) with nearly a supermajority in the Senate. And of course Trump will win re-election. Then Both New York and the Left-coast will issue referenda for secession... ? 15 hours ago, Just_A_Guy said: I’ll wait until after the egg is well and truly laid before I start my cackling. 15 hours ago, Vort said: I, on the other hand, am not widely known for my wisdom. Neither am I. Truthfully, I have found that if I ever make a prediction publicly, then I have a 99% failure rate. But when I keep my predictions private, I have an 85% success rate. I guess I should just keep quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mores Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 hours ago, prisonchaplain said: I'm more fearful of the US-left Media-Industrial-Complex's reaction. It might be good if they avoided any stimulants--including coffee, tea, and energy drinks for the next few days. I'm not sure if I like the idea of many people from the media bringing their sensibilities into the community of Saints. But they are our brothers and sisters after all. We'll have to accept them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mores said: So, if I can project parallels to 2020, would this not mean that the Republicans will end up having a supermajority in the House (if that even means anything legally) with nearly a supermajority in the Senate. And of course Trump will win re-election. Then Both New York and the Left-coast will issue referenda for secession... ? Remember that you can't see the future. Is this a positive? You bet it is. But it really doesn't mean much for the future of US politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mores Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 OK! So, apparently the founders of the Fusion GPS debacle are now telling the UK that the results were the result of Russian interference in the UK election. Just how much deception can people get called on and still continue to hope they will be believed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Mores said: OK! So, apparently the founders of the Fusion GPS debacle are now telling the UK that the results were the result of Russian interference in the UK election. Hopefully they have some allies willing to look into this and track it down where ever it leads. Except Ukraine. The trail has to die if it goes there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mores said: Just how much deception can people get called on and still continue to hope they will be believed? Ask Jeremy Corbyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Ask Jeremy Corbyn. Dontcha hate it when the chickens come home to roost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Vort said: Dontcha hate it when the chickens come home to roost? I'm a little surprised @Vort. I pegged you as a hardcore Labour guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MormonGator said: I'm a little surprised @Vort. I pegged you as a hardcore Labour guy. When they spell "Labor" with a 'u', who can resist? Hey, I'm only houman! Edited December 13, 2019 by Vort mordorbund and Midwest LDS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnsonJones Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Well, we'll see if something similar occurs in the US. I fully expect the Senate will NOT impeach Trump, and thus the impeachment that looks likely to come from the House will be a useless gesture. With the Democrat platform swinging so far to the Left and their focus on impeachment rather than Democratic ideals, if Trump somehow wins this next election, I expect it will be due to those two reasons. They have squandered an excellent opportunity to get ahead by instead making a useless impeachment proceeding that will go nowhere. If Trump wins in the next presidential election it would be just as resounding a defeat (even if it's only a slight defeat, Trump winning after the House impeachment would be a direct referendum in action upon their impeachment and how it truly was accepted) to the Democrats as Boris has been to his political foes in the British election. It's a shame. Trump offered the perfect opportunity for the Democrats to get united and get their act together. If he does win, hopefully it will send a clear signal that they need to finally start listening to those of us that are in the middle (not far left or far right) and get their act together rather than acting like a bunch of loons. On the otherhand if they win, I expect the same lunacy that has happened under Trump to continue with them, just in the opposite direction. Edited December 14, 2019 by JohnsonJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, JohnsonJones said: they need to finally start listening to those of us that are in the middle That'll never happen. "The Middle" doesn't exist anymore. This isn't 1992 where you can appeal to swing voters. There really aren't many swing voters left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnsonJones Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, MormonGator said: That'll never happen. "The Middle" doesn't exist anymore. This isn't 1992 where you can appeal to swing voters. There really aren't many swing voters left. Maybe, but the optimist in me still likes to think the middle is what determines the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, JohnsonJones said: the optimist in me You follow politics yet you remain an optimist? Haven't learned much have you? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fether Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 20 hours ago, Mores said: OK! So, apparently the founders of the Fusion GPS debacle are now telling the UK that the results were the result of Russian interference in the UK election. Just how much deception can people get called on and still continue to hope they will be believed? When I saw the results of the election, my first thought was a joking and sarcastic “Im sure Russia had something to do with this”. Are we back to blaming witches, Loki, and the devil for everything negative that happens in our lives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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