NeuroTypical Posted August 16, 2023 Report Posted August 16, 2023 I watched 14 seconds of this video! JohnsonJones 1 Quote
prisonchaplain Posted August 16, 2023 Report Posted August 16, 2023 I confess to watching this movie with my young adult daughters and wife. I even wore pink shorts and a blue pullover shirt (I probably looked more like Ken's dad than the man himself). Sure, the movie could be viewed as liberal extreme feminism. However, I suspect that there was a lot of intentional stereotyping going on. Most of the key players were more caricatures than serious representations. With that mindset, the movie was fun and funny. The political commentary might have been an ocean wide, but it was not even an inch deep. Niblo, Backroads, Phoenix_person and 1 other 4 Quote
The Folk Prophet Posted August 16, 2023 Report Posted August 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said: I watched 14 seconds of this video! I made it 20 seconds! Niblo 1 Quote
Emmanuel Goldstein Posted August 16, 2023 Author Report Posted August 16, 2023 I watched the entire thing and although I do not agree with everything he says, I felt he made some valid points. Backroads and zil2 2 Quote
Phoenix_person Posted August 16, 2023 Report Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said: I made it 20 seconds! 61 seconds! Quote
NeuroTypical Posted August 16, 2023 Report Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, prisonchaplain said: I even wore pink shorts and a blue pullover shirt (I probably looked more like Ken's dad than the man himself). Yay! So I'm not the only one who cosplayed to Barbie. Except I had white pants and a pink shirt. I got a wink of approval from one of the ticket takers, I don't think anyone else noticed or cared. Quote Most of the key players were more caricatures than serious representations. With that mindset, the movie was fun and funny. The political commentary might have been an ocean wide, but it was not even an inch deep. Agreed, and very well put. Edited August 16, 2023 by NeuroTypical Quote
Backroads Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, prisonchaplain said: I confess to watching this movie with my young adult daughters and wife. I even wore pink shorts and a blue pullover shirt (I probably looked more like Ken's dad than the man himself). Sure, the movie could be viewed as liberal extreme feminism. However, I suspect that there was a lot of intentional stereotyping going on. Most of the key players were more caricatures than serious representations. With that mindset, the movie was fun and funny. The political commentary might have been an ocean wide, but it was not even an inch deep. I quite enjoyed the movie. I found quite a few layers of satire going on. Not nearly the depth of political mongers I feared. I also feel anyone offended by it was also offended by these guys: NeuroTypical 1 Quote
LDSGator Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Backroads said: I also feel anyone offended by it was also offended by these guys: I haven’t seen it and have no desire to, but I think the people “offended” by the Barbie movie aren’t really offended by it. They just want attention, or to show off how moral they are, etc. Usual reasons. Edited August 17, 2023 by LDSGator Backroads 1 Quote
JohnsonJones Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Backroads said: I quite enjoyed the movie. I found quite a few layers of satire going on. Not nearly the depth of political mongers I feared. I also feel anyone offended by it was also offended by these guys: I have no idea who those guys are. I have not seen the Barbie movie. I had a daughter who went to see it with my granddaughter (her daughter). Supposedly they loved it. I don't really know anything else about the movie. I heard the word Barbie and lost all interest. I know my little girls played with Barbies when they were little. That's about the extent of my knowledge. I thought it was just a movie about the toys (Similar to other movies based on toys and such). From some of the comments it sounds like it was something more?? Quote
NeuroTypical Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 13 hours ago, Backroads said: these guys: Ok, I wish to know who these guys are, that I may determine whether or not I am offended by them. Got link? Quote
NeuroTypical Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, JohnsonJones said: I don't really know anything else about the movie. I heard the word Barbie and lost all interest. I know my little girls played with Barbies when they were little. That's about the extent of my knowledge. I thought it was just a movie about the toys (Similar to other movies based on toys and such). From some of the comments it sounds like it was something more?? The movie openly deals with topics like sexualized capitalism, the patriarchy, toxic masculinity, Barbie's impact on the feminist movement, radicalizing the supreme court, harmful social change, the Mattel corporation's intents and impacts, weaponized mansplaining, and even fascism. As @prisonchaplain said, the commentary is an ocean wide (literally taking up the entire movie), but not an inch deep. *spoiler* Barbie breaks up with Ken, and he has to learn to deal with it. Edited August 17, 2023 by NeuroTypical JohnsonJones 1 Quote
Backroads Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, NeuroTypical said: Ok, I wish to know who these guys are, that I may determine whether or not I am offended by them. Got link? They are the Manataurs. A clan of manly minotaurs. Most convenient clip Edited August 17, 2023 by Backroads NeuroTypical, mordorbund and JohnsonJones 2 1 Quote
Carborendum Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 4:05 PM, prisonchaplain said: With that mindset, the movie was fun and funny. I'm sure it was. But I remember how I took satire as a child. And regardless of how ridiculous things were, the mindset of a child takes a lot of it in as truth. On 8/16/2023 at 4:05 PM, prisonchaplain said: The political commentary might have been an ocean wide, but it was not even an inch deep. That's a good summary. I only listened to a couple of minutes to realize he does the same thing with all the videos that I've seen of him. He says some things that are actually true. But he's basically making mountains out of molehills. Is the movie politically radical? Satire or not, yes it is. Is it evil? Well, if you consider the woke movement a representation of Satan in the modern world... Well, I'll let you decide. Backroads and NeuroTypical 2 Quote
prisonchaplain Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 There is a complaint about so many movies and sitcoms of the last 50 years--that they make fathers look stupid, backwards, or unnecessary. Some have made professions out of presentations suggesting that all of this was intentional, anti-Christ, etc. When presented that way I see it. Compile enough similar garbage together and it looks like a conspiracy. What I would like to see--and have seen to a small extent--is believers doing better. I love Praise & Worship music and believe it's better than the evil Rock 'N Roll that I was warned about as a young person in church. Likewise, a few faith-based movies have really stood out in recent years. Maybe Barbie Movie was a cunning conspiracy to make young girls distrust men. Maybe it was meant to push a few to consider immoral sexual alternatives. Or, imho more likely, perhaps it was some rather liberal writers that wrote their perception of things and got a movie made. Either way, we do better when we make better and patronize that which is better. I would never tell anyone that they must or even should watch the Barbie Movie. But, when my adult daughters asked me to go with them I got dolled up (as Ken) and went along. I suspect that my being in the audience helped them view the movie from somewhat lest accepting eyes. NeuroTypical 1 Quote
NeuroTypical Posted August 18, 2023 Report Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, prisonchaplain said: I got dolled up (as Ken) and went along. Pix or it didn't happen. https://www.polygon.com/entertainment/23815723/barbie-movie-outfit-ideas-best-cosplay-inspo (I also dressed as Ken. There are no pix.) prisonchaplain, zil2 and Backroads 3 Quote
prisonchaplain Posted August 19, 2023 Report Posted August 19, 2023 Just picture a guy that looks like Ken but less handsome, about 40 years older, and with a significant amount of tactical girth. We went on law enforcement night. 😉 NeuroTypical 1 Quote
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