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Most people I associate with regularly are exceptions to your rule. I think it is less about age and more about who has allowed themselves to be indoctrinated by the left and those who call themselves 'allies'. Also depends on what you mean by 'hardcore against it'.

Pfff. Maybe by his definition of "better" - certainly not by God's.

The nine disciples in 3 Nephi 28 who wanted to find rest the Lord’s kingdom at age 72 and the three who wished to tarry both made good and worthy choices. He called the Three Nephites “more blessed” as He explained the full meaning of their desires. The other nine did not change their minds after hearing this, so they were just as happy. The Three Nephites had some sorrow first, and the other nine did not. The other nine would eventually learn that the work is not yet over in the worlds to come (and thus attain a fulness of joy), and the Three Nephites would likewise eventually learn to rest, attaining their fulness of joy. The Three Nephites are akin to Jesus remaining with the Father for many worlds, carrying out His work on many times as a Spirit, while the rest of us are akin to the other nine disciples who wanted to get going into our second estate as soon as possible. We will yet need to develop the attributes Jesus has post-mortally, wherein His grace is required, and He has already accumulated all we need to obtain, by His Father’s grace pre-mortally. I am in the camp of believing that Jehovah never made a mistake. But even in never making a mistake, He could still learn, be blessed and more blessed of the Father, and thus progress, not by repentance, but by constant expansion. We make mistakes and must progress through repentance as well as expansion. Where did we make the first “mistake” in the pre-existence? I would say in coming to this earth without participating in the Father’s work on others, as Jesus did. I must emphasize that “mistake” is the wrong word for the juncture in which we became saviors instead of Saviors on the path to exaltation. Obviously not at all that uncommon! Once we are in this estate where we do make mistakes, we learn from them only because of the Savior; many of us do not learn from them. Lacking Jehovah's stature and experience explains why the Father expects us to make mistakes in a fallen world and addressed them in the design, and why He provided a Savior to glorify that design.

Heh. Yeah, Dinesh is not exactly what I'd consider a stellar shining example of principled conservatism. He might start from such a foundation, and express plenty of principles in which I agree, but he also seems happy to stoke fires with emotionally-tinged outrage click-baitey hate pr0n. I'm never a fan of that style of agenda-forwarding, and I'm always sad to see it on my side. If you'd like an example of a decent ultrapartisan right-wing attack book that I'd be willing to stand behind, I'd suggest Hugh Hewitt's 2006 book "If It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat: Crushing the Democrats in Every Election and Why Your Life Depends on It". Click-baitey title, I'll admit, but back in 2006 I found it a well-sourced examination of the left wing's history of election fraud. It's been a while since I read it, but I remember it carried a warning about how unhealthily polarized our politics could become unless we started changing course on what Hugh saw as increasing nasty tactics in politics.

I liked the original the best. TNG was pretty good. DS9 was awful. Voyager was all right. I stopped watching after that series.

I think it happened then in the same way it happened in His mortal experience: D&C 93: 11- 14 (premortal, though also analogous to this life); verses 15 -18 (mortal, though also analogous to His premortal life). A difference I see, from the preceding verses, is that He was involved with the Father in making worlds many times and long before this one and coming into it, while we may have settled for helping Him make just this one world before coming into it. It is one of those choices where there is no down side, whether to choose to learn more as Jesus did, to to learn enough as we did. He learned enough to Save, whereas we learned enough to be saved. In the end we all have the same thing, eternal life and exaltation on the basis upon which we desire it, whether the heir or joint heirs. There is no wrong or lesser choice, except to reject Jesus or cease to learn more and settle only for just enough.\ RE: BH Roberts, perhaps He helped the Father in the work of salvation on the same number of billions of worlds as there are billions of people ever to inhabit just this one... plus one, rendering Him more intelligent than us all combined.

This love, I think, is the main godly attribute that He developed, grace for grace, to a far greater extent than we ever did and are still challenged to do. I believe I have come to realize that Heavenly Father is not hiding from us, nor hiding behind His Son because He cannot tolerate the least degree of sin or telestial conditions (after, all, He has appeared or at least spoken directly to some few on earth). Instead, He has placed us in a telestial sphere where we can discover the eternal medium and language of communicating and communicating with Him. Once we catch on to that, we can progress as His Son did, premortally and in this life. He sent His Son by way of a fallen mortal body to show us, because we could not endure the Father's direct presence without quickening -- and how can that happen without faith?. His Son's eternal light shines in the darkness of this world through His personal pre-mortal and mortal mission, and now after His resurrection also. We come to recognize it, and choose to either receive it or reject it (in degrees, of course).

I thought the Star Trek economics to be very unrealistic. The Aliens movie science fiction future economics seemed much more plausible to me.

I like many of the Star Trek original series (with enhanced special effects), Star Trek the Next Generation and Voyager. The newest productions of Star Trek have lost Gene Rodenberry's dream for a better future so I dismiss them.

1) This is where I like the language from Alma 13, and in particular verse 5. Our Savior was the only one of us who was perfect from the beginning, which is why he was the only one who could perform the Atonement. I agree with the principle of intelligence and exercising faith. The difference would be similar to the differences we see in our modern physical world. A person that cleaves unto light and truth and never denying will be worlds apart from an individual who cleaves unto darkness and error. I think the language of Christ being "like unto God (the Father)" is a very important principle, "And there stood one among them that was like unto God," in light of other intelligences present -- Abraham being one of them. 2) His love for God was perfect. That is what separates Him from us. If we all had the same love Christ has for his Father, we would have been able to accomplish the same feats, but our love for God was not perfect (Satan is evidence of this).

Funny. I don't see the legal consequences for Biden's open lying about his and his son's doings. Strange, that.

I've always enjoyed Elder Roberts and valued his opinions, but this particular one has never made sense to me. What does "combined intelligence" mean? Are ten million three-year-olds combined smarter than you? What might that even mean? IMO, the whole topic is an exercise in forcing a vast eternal truth into a tiny mortal framework. Can't be done. The conclusion itself has no base reference, so no conclusion reached from making the effort can be trusted even to mean anything, much less be correct.

Creatio ex nihilo is actually the belief of creating something out of nothing. Which is why we don't believe in it.

You know what they say: if you go far enough left, you get to keep your guns.

So we could cut 20% of our calories and be just fine. Excellent.