jayanna

The okc temple has no chapel

Joy to the World

the least selfish thing to do would be to give without expecting anything in return. There are things my hubby hates to do...like yardwork. While I enjoy the outdoors, there are just some things that I can't do by myself...so I worked around some of those things and made my flower garden and yard to be more 'natural-like' so it is considerably less maintenance. I want him to be happy, and in the long run does it really matter about grass? There is nothing that I love more than him. What wouldn't I give up for him? It is a really short list. I have found over time, that if I make him the most important thing to me I slowly become more important to him. Will we ever be equal to in this? I don't know, but I do know that I want to look back and know that I was the best wife I could be.

on top of that, one of the temples in my area has a chapel!

OOooo my hubby told me something really interesting about that scripture. I don't know where he read it, but it's interesting to me. I wondered why that one was so important, why it was necessary, If I can remember it right, he said that in those days there was a custom that if a man wrinkled up his napkin (cloth in those days) at the table and dropped it in front of him on his dish or on the table, it signaled the servant(s) that he was done. If he folded it and set it to the side it meant, "I will return" and he was only stepping out for a moment. So when Jesus folded up the napkin it was a sign to his servants. :)

Maybe he is too nervous that he might say the wrong thing...maybe he likes you? Guys are weird. Maybe he has a girlfriend that would be jealous? there's no telling Find something new to do to get your mind off of it. Pray for him though, maybe things are really bad for him right now and he doesn't want to talk about it. Give him the benefit of the doubt.

Welcome, Caspianrex!

I'd like to think so, but it might just be a mental block

I was divorced because my spouse chose to be abusive in the extreme, the abuse first occured while I was pregnant with our first child. He had grown up in a very bad family environment and I had felt sorry for him and assumed he was above all of those behaviors. I gave him chance after chance to improve. We had two daughters together, and I decided not to get pregnant again to avoid the situation of him abusing me again, but it just got worse. It became a dialy occurence. While I did the best I could to make him happy, when confronted by the authorities, he ran. I chose to file for divorce. I knew he would return when he ran out of money, and that if he could, he would hold our children hostage to get money from me and force me to re-enter the relationship. I knew that to allow the abuse to continue would have been a sin. I also knew that giving him the opportunity to continue the abuse would be helping him sin, too. I recieved medical treatments, including a short hospital stay and months of physical therapy, to make sure that my daughters would have a mommy that could take care of them. Later, I got married because the greatest man I had ever met was single. I got married because I prayed and received an answer. I've stayed married because I have decided to be the the best wife I can, and we have made the Savior the pilot in our relationship. I continue to choose to see positive things about my husband, and do my best to make sure I serve him in some way every day. His happiness is so important to me. Gratitude, forgiveness, and charity are really important in any relationship...The Proclamation on the Family LDS.org - Liahona Article - The Family: A Proclamation to the World is the best recipe I can think of for a healthy marriage and family. I can honestly say that after 10 years of marriage, I am more ga ga about my hubby than ever. I am even more likely to sneak a kiss, or daydream about his good looks. I look back and see how we have grown together, and clung to each other in every trial. Every chance I have to spend time with him means so much to me.

Welcome SaraJane! I'm so happy for you! Make sure to write down your experience getting baptized, so you can remember it just as you do now :)

Joseph Smith gave us instruction pertinent to the situation in which we find ourselves. He said, “Go in all meekness, in sobriety, and teach Jesus Christ and him crucified; not to contend with others on account of their faith, or systems of religion, but pursue a steady course. This I delivered by way of commandment, and all who observe it not, will [bring] persecution on their heads, while those who do [obey this instruction] shall always be filled with the Holy Ghost; this I pronounced as a prophecy” (See History of the Church, 2:431). I should like to take a few of the words of that statement as a theme: Contend not with others, but pursue a steady course. There may be those who will seek to tempt us away. There may be those who will try to harass us. We may be disparaged. We may be belittled. We may be attacked verbally. We may be ridiculed before the world. There are those, both in the Church and out, who would compel us to change our position on some matters, as if we had the right to illegally take upon ourselves the authority which belongs to God alone. We have no desire to quarrel with others. We teach the gospel of peace. But we cannot forsake the word of the Lord as it has come to us through men whom we have sustained as prophets. We must stand and say, to quote again the words of Miss Tuchman: “This is what I believe. This I will do and that I will not do. This is my code of behavior and that is outside it.” I conclude with this question: should we be surprised if we are called upon to endure a little criticism, to make some small sacrifice for our faith, when our forebears paid so great a price for theirs? Without contention, without argument, without offense, let us pursue a steady course, moving forward to build the kingdom of god. If there is trouble, let us face it calmly. Let us overcome evil with good. This is God’s work. It will continue to strengthen over the earth, touching for good the lives of countless thousands whose hearts will respond to the message of truth. No power under heaven can stop it. This is my faith and this my testimony. God help us to be worthy of the great and sacred commission that is ours, thus to build his kingdom. These are all excerpts taken from a talk by Pres. Hinckley Oct. Conference 1989

Funnily enough you are in complete agreement with LeGrand Richards on that :) I will not contend with you, whoever you are, You ask a question that is seemingly innocent, but really you are looking to open a conversation to attack my faith. Joseph Smith gave us instruction pertinent to the situation in which we find ourselves. He said, “Go in all meekness, in sobriety, and teach Jesus Christ and him crucified; not to contend with others on account of their faith, or systems of religion, but pursue a steady course. This I delivered by way of commandment, and all who observe it not, will [bring] persecution on their heads, while those who do [obey this instruction] shall always be filled with the Holy Ghost; this I pronounced as a prophecy” Pres. Hinckley Oct. conference 1989 "Contend Not With Others" I would much rather shine a light than point a finger.

English, but I can pray and share my testimony in Spanish. I have been told that my accent is impeccable, when I spoke at a couple of baptisms. I can have a gospel discussion in Spanish at church, but go anywhere else or have a conversation, forget it, can't understand a thing.

Sorry I didn't answer you before, Moksha, I didn't read your post before now . I don't know what the lesson to be learned would be exactly, but I do know that every time we have a trial that there is a lesson to be learned from it. I also know that the Lord will not give us more than we can bear with His help. Actually, you might find it really strange, but I find things much easier to bear when I look for the purpose behind difficult trials... for example, my father died when I was very young. It was hard for my family to cope with that. I missed him. I had been a daddy's girl, and he was the fun one in the family...you can imagine all of the issues that arose in caring for us. However, when I look back on my life I can see how I developed strength and trust in the Lord through it. I know that he is waiting for me on the other side of the veil. He was sick for a very long time, and now he is not. The miracle is not that bad things won't happen, the miracle is that, no matter what happens, whatever the adversary throws at us, even death itself, will be to our good and our experience. God cannot be defeated or thwarted. While imprisoned, Joseph Smith asked the Lord why he allowed bad things to happen to that extent...why he and the rest of the saints would have to suffer for so long, and how much longer would they be asked to endure. The Lord answered this which made two sections of D&C... 121 &122 5 If thou art called to pass through tribulation; if thou art in perils among false brethren; if thou art in perils among robbers; if thou art in perils by land or by sea; 6 If thou art accused with all manner of false accusations; if thine enemies fall upon thee; if they tear thee from the society of thy father and mother and brethren and sisters; and if with a drawn sword thine enemies tear thee from the bosom of thy wife, and of thine offspring, and thine elder son, although but six years of age, shall cling to thy garments, and shall say, My father, my father, why can’t you stay with us? O, my father, what are the men going to do with you? and if then he shall be thrust from thee by the sword, and thou be dragged to prison, and thine enemies prowl around thee like wolves for the blood of the lamb; 7 And if thou shouldst be cast into the pit, or into the hands of murderers, and the sentence of death passed upon thee; if thou be cast into the deep; if the billowing surge conspire against thee; if fierce winds become thine enemy; if the heavens gather blackness, and all the elements combine to hedge up the way; and above all, if the very jaws of hell shall gape open the mouth wide after thee, know thou, my son, that all these things shall give thee experience, and shall be for thy good. 8 The Son of Man hath descended below them all. Art thou greater than he? And my favorite one:) 9 Therefore, hold on thy way, and the priesthood shall remain with thee; for their bounds are set, they cannot pass. Thy days are known, and thy years shall not be numbered less; therefore, fear not what man can do, for God shall be with you forever and ever. I have faced some devastating trials at the hands of others...and have found this scripture to be true for me as well. I know that thanks to my Lord, the Savior Jesus Christ, there is nothing on this earth that can touch me. Nothing can stand between me and my Savior.

You're so lucky, my kids would've held out for 5 bucks at least! What a deal.

Reading anti-mormon literature....some was brought into my home while I was investigating. Growing up, my mom was an English teacher. I had a college reading level since the age of 9. She taught me some really important things, like the difference between fact and opinion, and how to tell when someone is listening or when they are simply waiting for you to stop talking, to say what they want to say. I don't read things written by people who are preaching, teaching, encrouraging hate of anybody...no matter what side of the church line they are on. Jesus gave us direction concerning what to do about anti people Matt. 5: 44 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; We should love them, pray for them, and serve them. There is only one real way to defeat an enemy, that is by not making them an enemy anymore. The fact that we are persecuted tells me that we are doing something right. This is another proof to me that we are true disciples. This is a sign of the second coming as told by Jesus in the new testament. Luke 21: 9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by. 10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake. 13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

Wahoooo! I can't wait. Also....I'm going to Universal for Christmas!!!!!! Ooooohhhhh, but waiting nearly a whole year for the last half will be a nightmare!

This is why I think Mary could not touch him yet: Luke 8: 44-47 44 Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched. 45 And Jesus said, Who touched me? When all denied, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? 46 And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me. and again Luke 6: 19 19 And the whole multitude sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, and healed them all. I think He had to ascend to the celestial kingdom with all of His virtue intact. Mary leaves, he ascends, comes back, and meets with the others.

I would watch it no matter who the judges are...I can't help it, I'm just that curious. Although, I really do think that producers pick what kind of person they expect to win and go from there. I know someone who auditioned this year. He is an amazing singer/songwriter/guitar player and did not get past the first audition...he sings better than a lot of the contestants I've seen on that show. In fact, he has been doing things locally already. And I don't mean the audition in front of the judges, I mean the audition in front of the production team. Weird. HHhmmm I think I'll have to wait and see if I like the judges or not...it'll certainly be entertaining!

None of ya'll read my post, did ya? Okay, well, we have been given instructions on where to go when the time comes... In Conference "Preparation for the Second Coming" Dallin H. Oaks II. Another sign of the times is the gathering of the faithful (see D&C 133:4). In the early years of this last dispensation, a gathering to Zion involved various locations in the United States: to Kirtland, to Missouri, to Nauvoo, and to the tops of the mountains. Always these were gatherings to prospective temples. With the creation of stakes and the construction of temples in most nations with sizeable populations of the faithful, the current commandment is not to gather to one place but to gather in stakes in our own homelands. There the faithful can enjoy the full blessings of eternity in a house of the Lord. There, in their own homelands, they can obey the Lord’s command to enlarge the borders of His people and strengthen her stakes (see D&C 101:21; D&C 133:9, 14). In this way, the stakes of Zion are “for a defense, and for a refuge from the storm, and from wrath when it shall be poured out without mixture upon the whole earth” (D&C 115:6).

Actually, that wasn't from me, that is something taught in "A Marvelous Work and a Wonder" It can explain it a lot better than I can, check it out sometime :)

ooooo nice :)

One effect of the massacre, I am the only member in my family and I went to the temple and helped in sealings for someone else's family, while I am waiting for my hubby to come around. The sealer looked at me and knew, just knew, that I had never seen a sealing before. He explained what to do, and said that I was doing a service for others that I could not yet do for myself. He was very nice and patient. We talk while doing the sealings and the officiator, the sealer, says how his family was murdered, at the mountain meadows and how his father (who was a child at the time and survived) was adopted, and he is a member! I told him after the session that I was also related to the Dunlap family. We chatted and occaisionally saw each other at the temple and waved. A while later, when my hubby was ready and my kids were adopted, we scheduled our sealing. Our sealor was that brother, who was a relative of mine, turns out he had adopted and gotten sealed to his kids, too. So I did have extended family there. :)

Bible dictionary page 670 under Fall of Adam...Bible Dictionary: Fall of Adam It is pretty clear, and seems literal, but you'll have to read it for yourself and decide.

Thank you very much, Moksha, for letting us know about this...I was born in Harrison Ark. and I have relatives, the Dunlaps, that were killed in that massacre. When I joined the church, my family was very angry, and decided I was a traitor. I work at a public library, I think I'll talk to the non-fiction selector about ordering a copy. I am very interested to get that book and have a read. Maybe my mom will be willing to read it, too.