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ah, True. Reading the rules is good. Here are a couple I think a few of us need to follow as well 3. Personal attacks, name calling, flaming, and judgments against other members will not be tolerated. 4. No bickering and nit-picking toward others. Realize that sometimes it is very difficult to be able to express how one feels through written words. Please be courteous and ask for a further explanation, rather then trying to attack and find holes in someone else's post.

I will keep this in mind

I am very well accustomed to Mormon sites and the politics and favoritism that comes with running a chat site. So far I am very impressed with the mods here. I am just used to chatting on all types of forums so my abbreviations are actually used on them also. So in this case I would have never known cuss words are actually filtered out here.

Yeah Zil lol

As Fiddles

Rude >:P Lol I am on vacation and besides it only happened in November. This Elder could still be on a mission while she is thinking about him

Sup, Not sure if he is still on his mission but if he is don't bother him. Like really. He wasn't sent on the mission to be your Love right now. He is learning and growing as you should be also at this time. Don't send him romantic messages or even hand written letters, NONE, while he is serving. He needs to focus on teaching the people and inviting them to come to the Lord. He isn't even on the mission for himself. He is there to be a tool in the hands of God. His growth and blessings come as a secondary effect of his having served faithfully. tl;dr - Chill out and contact him after he gets HOME.

Hey RM, Yeah, going on a mission in sin stealth mode is asking to wrecked by the devil. Glad you were able to make it home safely. I imagine if you aren't done serving and you are now ready to go they may keep you close to home. You claimed to have mental health concerns which is nothing to take lightly. I imagine even serving locally might be suitable. The Lord has the final say on where you will go. Oh and your condition is no one else's business when you get back to the field. Remember that, only share if you want to.

... I am just blown away by your logic. I really, I can't. Excuse me.

Hi, If this is still an issue and you are overwhelmed by your callings and work, drop one calling and keep the other. You really should start studying your job outside of work if you already haven't. I work in a very competitive field and it does get irritating when there is that one person who doesn't know what they are doing. In fact, usually, they are replaced if they annoy enough people. Oh and Don't be ashamed to learn from that music master

Is that when Jacob caused the Government to collapse? The secret societies that murdered the Prophets and overthrew the Government. Three years Right before the destruction and three days of Darkness? Right before the visitation of Christ. The City of Jacobugath was burned to ash for their disgusting murders. We will not split into tribes. I believe we'll have two fiery nations rise up against us and we will have a sore fight. We have become soaked with sin and our youth hate their own blood so much that they are killing each other. They will turn in fear, the wicked, as the fiery nations advance and The sons of God will dig in and meet them head on. We must all continue to pray and serve God.

Sup PamCakes, I was in chat the other day and it was quite empty. I was actually looking for a chat room originally. That's why I came here XD

ah, Well good riddance to them.

Scotttie! Hey bro, Love the post. I may not be the ideal person to write on this but I am glad that I see a fully devoted member feel how I did/do. I see these members buzzing around like bees. Working during the week and working on Sunday by prepping lessons and late night devotionals (which I thought was supposed to be a day of rest) I see the bright eyed people giving testimonies of The TRUE GOSPEL then seeing them during the week and they don't even say hi at the store or do very quickly and go. Volunteering to drive the missionaries around and feeding them and having them switch out again and again(yeah I get it, mission life. I served one for one of my churches and it sounded the same and just as long) My kids always getting sick at church (which honestly at one point I took as God telling me the church was wrong XD, no but seriously they still get sick going to church) When I was attending meetings the people looked so EXHAUSTED. As mentioned in another post the Men didn't even do activities together to strengthen brotherly/team bonds. I don't have sons so that throws me even more out of the loop. I honestly really didn't see the point of getting brought in by blood (hehe. I know water and fire) I know the Church is true, I know The Book of Mormon is real. Just like my Holy Bible it IS real. I have read The Book of Mormon cover to cover many times. I am NOT stupid, it testifies of Christ and burns a hole in your soul if you read it alone. That's what makes me so... depressed. To find the truth and see everyone so miserable. You know what the scary thing is? I don't even want to go to any other church. WHY? Because they have nothing to offer me. I didn't know Zion would be just as... crappy... as the world. Where can I turn for peace? What do you do if the salt has lost its savor? I talk to men and they march around with zeal on their tongues and coldness in their hearts. Having an appearance of Godliness but denying the power that leads them. Twice I have been given a blessing from priesthood holders that left me mortified (One I asked to be healed and instead he blessed me to go to the hospital to get treated ( It was a simple visit and left me in debt for years. I was young and no insurance. lol just married to my wife. Another I got very ill and asked for a blessing. He blessed me that I would be able to transition smooth and teach people on the other side. Freaking jerk. I did talk with people on the other side and came right back. I have a wife and a ton of Daughters that need their Daddy. Took my butt right back to my body) sigh. Look, you don't need to convince me The Church is true. I already know it is. That's what scares me. Anyway. Back to my patrol of giving people a boost. RIP, I must be tired.

Wow. What a beast. Maybe it was one of the other mean girls that stole stuff? Glad you got through the bull crap.

We don't keep/use bottles of alcoholic beverages in our home. If it comes in an ingredient like vanilla then whatever. If I buy a food with it by accident like mustard with white wine in the ingredients. I'll either toss it or use it depending on how I feel. I doubt I am getting drunk on mustard anytime soon but I want to be cautious not to make exceptions until the day I am just slamming down a beer. We were given the command to avoid its poison effects, if consumed in large quantities and addictive properties. Also aren't we supposed to avoid the appearance of evil but on the flip side aren't we supposed to judge righteously? Either way the choice is yours. God gives us enough room to govern a lot of what we do. Hope this helps with any frustrations or concerns you have with your friends not indulging in your fine cuisine. *Even before I met my wife I did not indulge in Alcoholic beverages. I didn't like what it did to people close to me.

I am glad to see the ending here. Marriage is very sacred. Your spouse is supposed to be your best friend. If ever a youngman comes into your life (after you are married) and starts taking your wife on dates and texting to her how beautiful she is You better put him in his place. I am sure your wife won't be stupid enough to let that happen but you know what to do worst case. I think it was cool you came and apologized to these people that were just looking out for you. Have a great week

tl;dr jk. jk. I read your novel. You must have lost like 10 lbs writing this thing. Bruh, I am glad you are finally being your dorky self. Alphas need admirers and I am glad you finally found your place. C:< Haha Ok. Now for how I really feel. I am glad you finally found how you tick. It's soooooo important to just be YOU (within gospel standards) you can't make anyone else happy and the flipside no one can make you happy. Bravo on being one with yourself. "You are more one than anyone." I hope your happiness continues to grow C :

Social Constructions. How society thinks you should behave. How your religious sect thinks you should behave. Most importantly how God has commanded we should behave. All of these influence how people look at each other. How they justify labeling peoples behavior. It really doesn't matter what people say about you as long as you are good with God. I am not really sure what you are looking for. Almost seems like you are working on homework. Anyway, best wishes.

Lol, what a weirdo. None of his business that you wanted to wear nice dress pants. As long as you are wearing semi formal dress clothes that guy needs to mind his own business (unless of course your top was immodest or you pants were tighter than a botched face lift)

We don't know how much training Adam and Mother Eve had received up until that point. We don't know when God planned to give them the fruit to eat. It was a sad thing they partook of the fruit as they did. They were commanded to leave rather than having a lovely goodbye. They broke a commandment of God and were then released into a fallen world. Eve was deceived by a Devil to take something that was not hers. Adam was wise enough to follow suit and partake so that Eve would not be alone [Every couple is different. Don't assume all men are more wise or ALL women will disobey God's commands] They made lemonade when life gave them lemons. God still loved them and the plan continued, that allowed holy spirits to come down and gain bodies. Satan failed in his attempt to disrupt the plan, Father Michael (as in first man on Earth, NOT Adam God) Kept the family together with Eve and lived, from my understanding, pretty close to the time of the Great Flood. Teaching and nourishing their posterity

Nice to see you guys talking about this. I actually mentioned this to my wife at one point and said it needed to be reworked. In the past I had attended Mormon meetings pretty regularly with my wife and kids. The priesthood classes were as follows: Sitting in a room with most of the men slouched over and looking at the floor, sitting upright but eyes glazed over or standing up holding a baby. They all looked exhausted and like they would rather be doing something else. If the lesson was engaging then it was different, the men would perk up and everyone would contribute. It almost seemed that the men would say "Great lesson. That's just what a I needed. Thanks for coming prepared", However THEY were talking most of the time and not the teacher. Then the home teaching report would be discussed. "Brethren we need to do our home teaching. Our percentages are low, We need to MAGNIFY our callings." I would watch as the slouching intensified and the glazing would thicken. As a recipient of home teaching it would feel awkward. Same dudes I saw at church looking disinterested would come into my home and be all rambunctious with the kids and sometimes even look as if they were flirting with my wife. She of course would just look at me or squash it immediately (my wife rocks) They seem to come in an extrovert / introvert pair. With one always talking way more than the other. I eventually politely asked them to stop coming. We lived far from home for my job, we all did at my work place. The non Mormons always did fun stuff together, albeit a lot of drinking and going to clubs but they had a friendship. The Mormon men never spent time together or at least not that I knew of. Every once in a blue moon morning basketball would happen. It really felt like a lonely world to be honest. I didnt need a "teacher", especially Mr. Slouch bucket. I needed a good LDS friend. Maybe even a good LDS couple friend so that we could not feel so alone in this often crappy existence. With this new program I may invite them back again but still a reserve. Do I want someone assigned to be my friend? I guess we'll see.

Thanks so much!

There is a lot missing here. Where did you guys meet? Looks like marrying an American ended up being pretty lame for you Joking aside let's examine your husband: -Porn Consumer (past issue) -Collects Legos -Spending money you don't have -Got fired again from a job -Married a foreigner at 27 yrs old (no offense) -doesn't want to change bad habits -Recently got a Temple recommend 1. Porn Consumption - Glad to hear it was in the past. Do you know his history? Why, when and where he first started consuming porn? Is he socially awkward around women? Is he happy with your marriage? 2. Collects Lego - Interesting that he collects toys, not really surprising as they are very fun to build. Do you know his family history? Was he abused? Did he have everything taken from him as a child? Might be good to find out. *Side note, legos retain and also gain value. Sell them to collectors online and get your money back. 3. Plays video games for hours on end. What kind does he play? Shooters? Indie? MMOs? What is he trying to tune out? What is he trying to forget? It is quite possible your husband is very depressed and overwhelmed with his life. He needs more sleep so he doesn't keep getting fired. Make sure he goes to bed on time to keep his mind sharp. 4. Spending money you don't have - Sign of emotional illness and/or lack of knowledge of finances and a disregard for reality. He needs financial classes and therapy MOST LIKELY. 5. Multiple times fired from a job - Social awkwardness, Bad work ethic, despises authority figures and/or doesn't have a grasp on reality (again) He needs an intervention and quick 6. It just seems odd that he got married later on in life to a foreigner... does he have a degree? Was he working the whole time from 18-27? What has this man been doing all these years. Why didn't a nice girl IN UTAH of all places snag him up? Things just seem odd there. 7. Doesn't want to change. Huge RED FLAG, start a backup plan to get out. 8. Recently got a Temple Recommend - This appears to be a saving grace perhaps? Means he is not looking at porn anymore (or lied) but let's assume the best. If you are citizen, you need to sit down with your husband and make a plan. Sell those stupid legos and get him to commit to getting and keeping a new job. Have him set a limit to his game time on his days off and set a shut off time. Get him to financial classes offered by your church or any other non-profit. If he changes then Seal!!!!! If not then find a new spouse. If you are not a US citizen do the same as above but if he REFUSES to change then might as well get a dual citizenship and go home to your family. *NOTE: REFUSE meaning does not even make an effort and doesn't care. Relapse is different, if he has a desire but struggles he will need all you can give to him with support. Marriage is not a game. It is the hardest thing you will ever volunteer to do. You didn't even know he played video games, so, some homework on your end might have been missed. You got some hard work ahead of you BUT you can do it! Seek the counsel of your leaders and MOST of ALL GOD our Father. He will help you C : Best wishes.

If I caught my wife looking at another dude's meat I'd most likely dip out BUT it really sounds like you want to make it work. I hope you worked things out. If for some reason this is still an issue, marriage counseling and church meetings with your Bishop are definitely a must. Best of wishes *Also don't ever result to killing yourself. Especially over the loss of affection of another person. There are tons of lonely and single people in the world. Easier said than done I know but nonetheless true.