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Is that what Jesus told you? Id hate to break it to you but every piece of literature and information about God/Jesus in this world is second/third/fourth hand information. Your truth is not my truth and vice versa the holy ghost doesn't speak to you the same way he speaks to me. Until Jesus himself comes out with a Youtube Channell NO ONE knows his full will/intent/Love. Its foolish for one human to tell another human that you cant join Christs church because of (fill in the blank).
The Gospel gives us an idea of the path to eternal salvation but the finer details are between the individual and God. 
Covenants were made to be broken or else repentance is not neccesary but excuse me if you are the only perfect soul on earth that can keep a covenant thus making you the only member of Christs church. 
Both statements below are true!
There is a place for everyone who makes and keeps divine covenants under restored Priesthood authority in Christs church.
There is a place for everyone in Christs church.

Hi, I'm reading the Book of Mormon right now. I've never been religious at all, my family was not religious and the idea of reading or studying religion seemed, until very recently, extremely dull and boring. Although a friend of mine became a Christian a few years ago and tried to get me to go to church with him ( a pentecostal church) I found it as dull and boring as I expected.
So, I KNEW religion was not for me. And that was fine with me.
Then, about three years ago I moved house and whilst unpacking I found a copy of the Book of Mormon in an drawer in the kitchen, obviously left by the former residents. I paid it little attention BUT... I didn't get rid of it. Not sure why but I simply kept it in that drawer.
Anyway, about 6 months ago I was approached by two missionaries while I was in town. They were very polite and friendly but I explained that I wasn't religious and wasn't interested. I wasn't rude but I didn't want to listen.
I saw them again in town about a fortnight later and suddenly had the urge to go over and chat to them. But I've no idea why. Its strange. What would I talk about? AND WHY? I'm NOT religious.
Well, I kept on thinking about it and then about 6 weeks ago I took out the Book of Mormon and started to read.
And so for the past six weeks I've been reading it. No idea why. And I mean, I'm reading it every day. And I'm loving reading it. I've just finished the second book of Nephi. I can't believe I've actually stuck at it.
So I, who isn't  religious am feeling all sorts of emotions. It even feels strange telling this story. Slightly confused but also excited. This is all so new to me, religion in general. I haven't spoken to anyone about this, its been a very private experience but I've been reading about peoples experiences in the church and would like to know has anyone else been in this situation.
Bearing in mind, this really has come out of nowhere for me. All I did was come across the book and talk to two missionaries for about 5 minutes. 
Sound crazy? I know very little as yet about the church but I'm still going to read the Book of Mormon. 
 
 

You can get excommunicated, or you can resign/ask to have your name removed from the records of the church.  Both remove the covenant of baptism.

The sugar cooks out, don't you know.

Wait.  Which one is supposed to be POTUS?

They say you are what you eat.  I'm going to have to check and see if my wife has been cooking with w(h)ine, because my kids have done plenty of it the last two weeks since school started again.  

How many Sunday School/Priesthood/Relief Society lessons have you been too where someone says they would like to see more people with tattoos, or smokers, or other types of people at church?  I've heard it more times than I can count in the last few years.  Why would we draw the line at pants?  The church is supposed to be a hospital for sinners, not a country club of saints.

There is an idea in vulnerability studies of share, stop and check.  (I'm not sure if that's the right terms, but it's how I remember it)  When you are opening up with someone, it is good to share a little, then stop, see if you are ok with what you shared.  Check with the person about how they feel, what they think.  When you're both good, you can share more.

I'm confused by this statement.  Are you saying that in OT times, Jesus as Jehovah had a body? And when he was born of Mary, he got a new, mortal body?  Or are you saying that now that Jesus is resurrected with a Celestial body that he can make it mortal?  Either way, I don't agree.  I thought scripture and modern teachings were clear that Jehovah had a spiritual body, but need to be born to receive a physical body.

We don't lock threads that go off topic, but we will lock a thread that gets personal and doesn't get back to non-personal discussion...
Remember, folks:
 

Folks, we don't know the whole story.  We don't know if the wife's position - divorcing could be her idea, or a joint thing.  It happens.  The one or two accounts of similar split ups of which I'm aware, have had divorce be a joint thing.   First account is from a couple who used to be in my ward, she filed.  Second account was Josh Weed.
We do know, according to what was originally written in this article, he did not intend the letter to go public, and removed it quickly.  Not the brightest thing to do, posting something on Facebook that you don't want known, but there it is.
 

If Elizabeth Smart went through nine months of sheer hell, I think Ed Smart suffered through a different kind of hell during that period, perhaps one even more bitter than his daughter's. He was the one who hired his daughter's kidnapper and rapist and allowed him into his house, all in an apparent effort to be Christlike. How could Ed Smart not have blamed himself? What sort of twisting effect would such an experience have on his (or anyone else's) mind?
I have great sympathy for Ed Smart. I do not condone his actions in any possible way; I think it's shameful that a man older than me would up and leave his wife in order to follow his gonadal urges. I suspect that his actions, if not quickly repented of, will have a deeper, longer-lasting negative effect on his family even than his daughter's horrific experience, both now and in succeeding generations. But I'll withhold personal condemnation. I wouldn't trade places with the guy for all the gold in Fort Knox.

I tend to think that the details of missionary work in the spirit world may not have been known. At the very least, Peter seems to think that Jesus Himself taught those who rejected Noah while Joseph F. Smith reveals that it was an organized ministry, not a direct one.
Paul recognizes gradations of resurrected beings, but I don't necessarily think he had the Celestial/Terrestrial/Telestial model that we're so familiar with.
And then there's D&C 19's teaching on "endless torment".

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/1983/01/russell-m-nelson-a-study-in-obedience?lang=eng
“The Lord has a tremendous work yet to accomplish in the Church,” he insists. “He’s going to need every faithful soul; there won’t be one prepared, qualified Latter-day Saint who won’t have all the responsibility to shoulder that he or she can bear.”
Sobering.

https://newatlas.com/spherical-aberration-optical-lens-solution/60937/
Lens spherical aberration has been solved!
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1811.03792.pdf
Original Scientific Paper above.
I bet within 5 years, cameras, microscopes, and  telescopes will become much improved and cheaper.
 
https://www.amazon.com/Televue-31mm-Nagler-Type-Eyepiece/dp/B00063G0U0
I have the above eyepiece for use with a telescope and it has a combination of SIX lenses to attempt to fix spherical aberration.
The new equation will allow construction of better eyepieces with much less glass. 
Cheaper & Better.
Give this guy a Nobel Prize.
2000 year old problem, with application to scientific and real world problems.
Imagine the benefit in selfies alone...

pfft.  Anyone could have come up with this:

 
Seriously though, this is pretty cool.

Several years ago, we had a young woman join the Church.  I believe she was 19 or 20.  The first ward council meeting after her baptism, one of the counselors in the bishopric asked who was going to talk to her about removing her nose piercing, because she was a member of the church now. She had stopped coming to church within two weeks of her baptism. 
Believe it or not, some of our cultural dress expectations become a barrier for some investigators. When someone walks in the door and feels entirely out of place because they are the only person not wearing a white shirt/suit jacket/tie or dress, it feels isolating. From that first experience, they can start thinking, "oh, I don't belong here." or "there's no one like me here."  

I worry that I'm coming off as confrontational, and I'm really not trying to.  I am trying to understand this.  I re-read the article a couple times and I don't see it the way you do.  She says she wants to dress how she feels confident and unique.  Apparently that means pants for her.  I don't see her saying that she's making a statement, or that other women should too or those that don't aren't expressing themselves.  

Yes. Both "Laman" and "Lemuel" were Semitic names used in Arabic. "Nephi" and "Sam" are not Semitic, but do both appear to be Egyptian. (If you take "Sam" as a shortened form of "Samuel", you could argue that it is Hebrew, but I don't know of any reference for ancient Hebrews called "Sam". But it's a perfectly good transliteration of an Egyptian name.) "Jacob" and "Joseph" are, of course, pure Hebrew names. Interesting that Lehi named both of his youngest sons, born in the wilderness, with religious ancestral names. Living for years in the desert can give a man some religion.

How I read your response ( Thanks for the tl;dr, the whole quote is long ((and appreciated))  )
So in 2011, no one cared.  After 2012, women who want to wear pants shouldn't because it's associated with the One-Eyed, One-Horned Flying Purple Pants Wearers.  
It is unfortunate that the 'rebellious' chose such a simple article of clothing to represent their protest and that pants are now associated with apostasy.  I can see how others are making that connection, although it seems a bigger leap to me.  
This whole thread reminds me of the meme I've seen a number of people post on Facebook about a woman who is going to leave the Church.  She talks to her Bishop and says she can't take all the hypocrisy, back-biting, gossiping, one-up-manship of the other people.  The Bishop asks her to carry a spoonful of water around the whole building without spilling a drop.  She does this and reports back her success.  The Bishop asked if she saw anyone acting in those horrible ways and she says "No, I was too focused on the water."  He then compares that to how she should focus on Jesus Christ at church and not on other people.
Even if a woman wears pants to church in support of the Purple Pants People, what will happen?  Nothing, that I can tell.

There is an idea in vulnerability studies of share, stop and check.  (I'm not sure if that's the right terms, but it's how I remember it)  When you are opening up with someone, it is good to share a little, then stop, see if you are ok with what you shared.  Check with the person about how they feel, what they think.  When you're both good, you can share more.

It isn't that easy as to just get over it 

Your thought may have some merit.  However, I am inclined to think this particular reference in Nephi to be more literal for several reasons.
#1 The family of Lehi was commanded to leave Jerusalem
#2. The conflict that brought about the fall of Jerusalem and the removal of its citizens was bitter and most (over 50%) of Israel was killed in the process.  
#3. Lehi was wealthy and would have been specifically targeted for his wealth.
#4. Lehi was a merchant that likely had trading ties with Egypt (the two oldest sons had Egyptian names) and would have been targeted for his foreign ties to the greatest enemy of the Babylonian empire.
I am quite sure that had they remained - they would not have survived.
 
The Traveler

Hello,
 
Would you help me understand this verse.
2 Nephi 1:4 says "For, behold, said he, I have seen a vision, in which I know that
Jerusalem is destroyed; and had we remained in Jerusalem we should also have
perished".
Do you think Lehi was aware of the Lord's revelation to Jeremiah that the good figs
(chapter 24, verses 5-8) represented the people who remained in Jerusalem and were
taken and preserved by the Lord in Babylon?
Thank you,
Gale