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  1. Moses wished that the Lord's people were worthy enough to receive the Spirit of Christ so that they themselves could be counseled by the Lord instead they coming to Moses to receive a law to regulate their conducts. Remember the laws are given to condemn men. It is written that if we are led by the Spirit we are not under the law. So it is much better to walk by individual counsels from God than from Commandments. The Father Himself wishes to teach us individually. It is His will that all men be taught of God. So no man can be taught of GOD if they do not first learn to be led by the Spirit. Minor, Major prophets.... A prophet is a prophet is a prophet. What can differ between prophets is their mission and priesthood authority. I have forgotten how the term minor and major prophets came to be. To be sure it came from man not God. John 6:45 - It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. One Day, all men shall know the Lord. Hebrews 8:11 - And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. Peace be unto you bert10
  2. Hi Rockwoodchev... What makes a prophet and authority are two different things. First John was taught on what makes a prophet and taught us in Revelation..... Prophets are they who have the Spirit of Prophecy and who does have a Spirit of Prophecy? Revelation 19:10 - And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Moses knew this long ago when tired and exhausted he stated..... Numbers 11:29 - And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them! A prophet is a person who has a testimony of Jesus Christ...because such testimony is by the Spirit of Prophecy. As Moses said...that the LORD would put His Spirit upon them. Now Authority.....Not all prophets are called to prophesy to nations and people. Some are required to be prophets only to their families. This is because the husband and the Father already has Spiritual authority over his family. So he can be a prophet to his family. At this time....A prophet's authority resides normally only with the people GOD Gives Him to lead. Peace be unto you bert10
  3. Come one LDS guys....you can do better than the the answers I have read so far. Here is the answer....Christ did atone for all sins. However, the question is which Sins can be forgiven unto us in this world and in the next and which sins cannot be forgiven in this world nor in the world to come. Remission of our sins...is based on these doctrines..... 1st... the Ability to be RENEWED unto REPENTANCE [Heb 6:4-6] And if we can be Renewed unto Repentance... then it is based on ....... a. Repentance and restitution (The laws of the restitution are in the OT.) b. The Degree by which we ourselves can forgive others. (Matthew 6:12 - And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.) -------------------------------------- John has given the teaching of Jesus on what is the ATONEMENT which is when it is possible for us to be ONE In the MOMENT with CHRIST....So that His Blood shall cleanse us when we learn to WALK IN THE LIGHT AS CHRIST IS IN THE LIGHT. 1 John 1:7 -But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. AT-ONE-MENT occurs ONLY WHEN WE WALK IN THE LIGHT AS CHRIST IS IN THE LIGHT. Sons of perdition have filled their souls with darkness......so much so that the power of the Holy Ghost cannot renew them unto Repentance. So there are those who cannot be renewed unto repentance....Also there will be those who will refuse to repent at the last judgment....These cannot inherit any part of the glory of God. --------------------------------------- Either men repent in this world or in the next. if men put themselves in the position of being unable fully to repent in this world...He will pay for in the Spirit Prison. Anyone that does not repent in this world or in the next world shall be sent to the Outer Darkness. Peace be unto you bert10
  4. Jacob 5...when I read it I get the sense that it is about the dealings of the Lord with the World, His Church, His people and the righteous whom from time to time he leads aways to other lands before the destructions would come on his covenant people. This chapter seems to me to cover the entire period of mankind from beginning to the end. Peace be unto you bert 10
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    Judas

    Hi The Doctor 1) None of the Apostles except Peter "really" knew who Jesus was. Peter was the first Apostle who heard the Father in heart concerning the true identity of Jesus. But he was not the last one to receive this testimony eventually all of the apostles received it. 2) Jesus knew and still accepted him as an Apostle. Jesus Chose Judas whom He called a Devil to ensure that the Scriptures be fulfilled. John 6:70 - Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? It was crucial that Jesus chose a Devil to be one of His Apostle. For only a Devil could betray the Lord after being with Him for close to three years. John 17:12 - While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. In this prayer to the FAther...Jesus refers Judas as to being the "Son of perdition". And a son of perdition are they who commit the sin against the Holy Ghost that is not forgiven in this world nor in the world to come. ------------------------------ 3) Judas did kind of repent. (Though probably not correctly.) Forgiveness of Sins is predicated on repentance. Sons of perdition are they who are unable to be renewed unto repentance by the power of the Holy Ghost since they have rejected it. I cannot say that Judas repented...no one knows his state of mind at the time and exactly why he committed suicide. I cannot call Judas evil but he did an evil thing. ------------------------------- Also if Judas did wine up in Hell wouldn't that alter the whole Atonement thing? Since then it wasn't just the sacrifice of Christ's life, but also of Judas's soul. The Atonement or the reconciliation of Mankind to the FAther thru the mediator Jesus Christ is predicated upon Repentance. Without repentance the Atonement means nothing. Jesus did not come to save the wicked in their wickedness, nor the sinner in their sins. He came to save all those who will repent and become humble and meek. Peace be unto you bert10
  6. 1 Timothy 2:14 - And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Both man and woman have weaknesses and strengths due to their particular gender. When they Marry they become One flesh. Ideally the Strengths and the weakness each has should complement each other. I do not wish to argue about this...this is the way it is. And in Genesis God set the order of authority for a reason. Because it is the way it is suppose to work while we live in the fallen world. Like I said there is really nothing to talk about. God has already said it all in the OT and again by His Apostles in the NT. Peace be unto you bert10
  7. The FALL. You are right...all the Evils. the Woes and the Afflictions such as old age, senility, diseases, plagues, accidents...did not exist before the fall. Though the Apostles reminded us that the Father is the head of Christ and Christ is the head of man and man is the head of women....there is one crucial thing that is not in the Scriptures...it was taught in the beginning... Is that one of the things that the husband is responsible and accountable to God for...is the HAPPINESS of His Family. That should put a stopper in any unrighteous use of authority. To fail in one part of the marriage covenant is to fail them all. The laws God gave for both men and women if lived with Unconditional love - Satan will be rendered powerless against such marriages. All is GOOD....including the fall. Peace be unto you bert10
  8. Hi...When one is deceived there is no choice. In being deceived one is substituting good for evil and evil for good. 1 Timothy 2:14 - And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. The Order of the punishment that followed is from the greater to the least..first the Serpent because it had the greater role in the fall. It received the harshest of punishment. Then Eve who allowed herself to be deceived and then Adam who chose to follow Eve received the least of the punishment. The punishments and the role that God assigned Adam and Eve are really blessings... to help them overcome the weaknesses of their gender. And to ensure the greatest chance for joy and happiness in this world. However in these last days...It has been rejected and both men and women have chosen evil for good and good for evil thru the philosophies of the world. Isaiah 3:12 - As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. Peace be unto you bert10
  9. Hi Tiancum... 1. Grace of God for sinners Time given by God to men to repent before Justice demands her due. 2. Grace of God for the righteous The ability of God to see us as little children. [Holy and pure] 3. Requirements for being cleansed by the blood. 1 John 1:7 - But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. We are not saved by Grace as the Christian teach it...it is an abomination. God has Grace for the sinners as well as for the righteous. Grace is a gift and it acts differently whether we are sinners or righteous. For the Sinners it is time to repent before justice demands its due. For every sin God grants us a space to repent before that sin is acted on us. The grace of God to see us as little children..is a gift that is reserved for the children of the covenant. It means one must first enter into the Covenant and fulfill its conditions. So you see God, has grace for sinners as well as for the righteous. We are all saved somewhere in the many mansions...that are in the kingdom. Only they who have made themselves unable to repent in this world or in the world to come cannot be redeemed. The resurrection is for both the just and the unjust...by grace of God. However, Grace does not cover our works which shall be judged. Peace be unto you bert10
  10. Hi Misshalfway. <> We can judge all fruits after tasting it. <> We are not allowed to judge the person only the fruits of the person. There are several reasons for this. 1. Every person whether just or unjust has a portion of the Spirit of Christ. Just as When we feed the hungry, clothed the naked is doing it to Christ, so is judging another is doing it to Christ. 2. A righteous Judgment is a judgment that is RIGHT according to God's Right. So a Righteous judgment can only come when it is given by the Spirit of God. 3. No man is allowed to judge another man except he is that man's Spiritual leader and has been given the Spirit of judgment. 4. We can move away from judging good and evil..for example by labeling Life experiences as comfortable or uncomfortable. In this way we do not tend to thank and praise God only just for what we consider to be good that happens in our life but for all things. This is truly being thankful and grateful. 5. Moving away from Good and Evil to everything is "ALL GOOD" is a giant leap and for some and it may take a long time. Romans 8:28 - And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to [his] purpose. Peace be unto you bert10
  11. As strange as it may seems...I have read this many times and had nothing to say...but now....I do and so I answer. The gospel of repentance is still about love...and this is what the Lord prophesied for our day. Matthew 24:12 - And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. The true gospel of Christ gets in the way of the worldly. So few people will receive this gospel because they are completely blinded and hypnotized by all the glitter the world has to offer. I think what is happening now in the USA and around the world is God trying to re-focus the eyes of men from their worldly lives and things back to Himself. I shudder to think what will happen...once these warnings runs out. For the heart fills up with what the eye beholds and men are refusing to re-focus on God so the storms, the floods, the tornadoes, the fires are still increasing. Coming soon famines, plagues, economic woes and wars. Peace be unto you bert10
  12. Hi justice...I would like to start with the end of your post...I understand things way differently than you do. I put down just a few things from my point of view just for you to consider You posted: "Justice has no claim on Christ because He was sinless and perfect. This is why He was the Only One who could Atone for mankind" That is true.... But consider this ....Also that Justice has no claim on anyone who walks in the Light as Christ walks in the Light because he is cleansed moment by Moment by the blood. Because when a man is led by the Spirit he is not under the law [Gal 5:18] If one is not under the law...then he cannot transgress because for it is written that it is the law that worketh Wrath. So if one is not under the law because he has learned to be led by the Spirit of God...so how can he sin? Romans 4:15 - Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. 1 John 1:7 - But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. Galatians 5:18 - But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. ------------------------------------------------------------ You posted:"Part of the Atonement is that sin and death are defeated." Sin and death is not defeated but It Can be Defeated..big difference. Sin and Death exist equally as a balance to Righteousness and Eternal Life. For this is part of the Agency GOD the Father gave men. That both good and evil be before men equally. What each men has to do is overcome the world as Christ has overcome the world. I tell you the truth...if a man does not overcome the world then he is overcome by it. There can be no truce with darkness. ----------------------------------------------------- The Promises are Given to all: To them That Overcometh: Revelation 2:17 - He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. 1 Corinthians 9:24 - Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. The race is against time. For God gives men a time of repentance for each sin before Justice acts in their lives. -------------------------------------------------- You posted: "If Christ were not allowed the fulness of everything that pertains to that victory, then where is the victory?" The victory is the Resurrection and/or translation for some. The resurrection is a free gift to all men whether they are just or unjust. For it is written that both the Just and the unjust shall be resurrected. Also I did not write this prayer down. John 17:24 - Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. The fallen world could be withstand God the Father or Jesus in the fullness of their glory. So for them to come here they must give up some of their glory. And this is what Jesus did. So the Earth must be redeemed first before the FAther can come down and visit..or else it shall burn up and vanish away in shame. -------------------------------------------------------- You posted: "Christ's reward is endless and eternal. He is greater than all but the Father. He will sit in His throne in the Celestial Kingdom, being worshipped and praised by all who are there, because it is only by His actions that they are there. Without Him it wouldn't matter if anyone was good or evil." What is not given as free gifts...are the Promises without fulfilling the conditions upon which they are predicated upon. For it was taught by Christ that blessings rest upon conditions...such as for example... John 7:38 [The condition] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, [The promise]out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. Yes it does matter if a person is good or evil. Without the wedding garment one cannot enter into the kingdom to live with the Father. And also not all shall worship Christ...some [Lovers of darkness] shall hate Him and reject all that He stands for. Peace be unto you bert10
  13. Your question...is great and there some really neat stuff not considered nor taught ....yet that is. First of all few realize this...the Jesus was chosen to be the Mediator for us and the Father before we went into the Fall. And Jesus loved us so much that He knew He would have to give up some of that Glory that was already His to follow us in the Fall when it will happen. God knew this would happen and we know this because Jesus one day prayed unto His Father for the same Glory [not more or less] that He had before the "world was." John 17:5 - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. This had to occur because nothing sinful, guilty, unclean can come into the presence of the Father neither can the Father because of His glory ever come near these without destroying His Creations. Jesus once He gave up some of His glory could minister to us. As for Jesus have problem going to see the Father because He took the sins of the world....Jesus said... John 16:33 - These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. All who like Jesus overcome the world are given the power of God to become true Sons and daughters of GOD [Father]. Romans 9:4 - Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 2 Peter 1:3 - According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 2 Peter 1:4 - Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. Those who overcome are saved the Holy Spirit of Promises. The promises of eternal life and to live with the Father are as always predicated on the condition that we overcome all things... These teachings that I give, go a little deeper than what the average LDS may give you. So please take some time to reflect on it. I would like to add that Jesus has revealed very little on His labors and sacrifices to and for us even before the world was created...that He followed us in the fall and labored with us all the days men were on the earth...and shall continue to labor for the Father and with us until after the Day of Judgment. The way to salvation and back the Father is Road map and Jesus gave it who wish to see. 1. Jesus lived a life of perfection and expect men to do it..which is to live by the Spirit...and hence this commandment of Jesus in Matthew 5:48 to be as perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect. 2. Jesus suffered both in soul and in body so that all men who truly repented of their sins could be forgiven. 3. Jesus died on the cross so that He could resurrect all men and bring all who have died in sin into judgment before the Father. Peace be unto you bert10
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  18. Hi justamere10 I think that you are skipping some steps...we are not commanded to lift anyone from the terrestrial kingdom into the Celestial kingdom. No man can do this. This is totally God's domain...as the man at this stage learns to hear His voice in their hearts...so that they can be taught of By the Father. Who then comes unto Christ? John 6:45 - It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. But what we are commanded to do...is to Teach the Gospel of Repentance to the Gentiles [Christians and others]. And there is nothing else we can do for them until they enter into this gospel and live its laws so that the Lord can forgive them of their sins. D&C 11:9 - Say nothing but repentance unto this generation. Keep my commandments, and assist to bring forth my work, according to my commandments, and you shall be blessed. If the Christians do not wish to enter into this gospel there is nothing more we can do for them. It is only after remission of sins...that Any one then become ready for the perfecting of the Saints. The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p.434 We are impressed that the mission of the Church is threefold: 1.... " -- To proclaim the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to every nation, kindred, tongue, and people;" 2.... "-- To perfect the Saints by preparing them to receive the ordinances of the gospel and by instruction and discipline to gain exaltation; 3.... "-- To redeem the dead by performing vicarious ordinances of the gospel for those who have lived on the earth. On Item no# 2...there is more than to receive the ordinances and church instruction and discipline. This comment only the beginning. Peace be unto you bert10
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  20. Hi Rekhyt......I have teachings that you have never heard from anyone...also if you opened your heart and your mind...you will see that they are true.... The CROSS: LDS do not focused only on the Cross for the means of salvation. Salvation is the whole Life of Christ. 1: Christ lived a life of perfection to show that it is possible for men to do. And so His commandment In Matthew 5:48 to be as perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect is not left unfulfilled or taught by the blind that it is impossible to live this commandment. 2. Christ suffered and bled so that He could forgive those who repented enough to cast away their hardened hearts. This is the whole aim of repentance. If a man cannot hear GOD in his heart...he has not repented enough. Hebrews 3:15 - While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. If in these last days which are also the times of the restitution of all things...men continue to keep their hardened hearts and continue to force on God their own terms of salvation then they shall be damned spiritually. Which means unable to progress. Men who after read the bible and this post continue to refuse to hear GOD in their hearts are recreating in their life the conditions that lead to the "Provocation of the Lord". 3. Jesus died and Resurrected: So that He could bring both the Just and the unjust into judgment before the Father. Acts 24:15 - And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. This is the plan of Salvation that Christ came and delivered to Men. Further symbology on the CROSS: The Cross is a tree that goes from the Ground and points straight to heaven. On the way up there is/are a CROSS BEAM (s) that represent the left [Error] and the right [Zealousness] that men choose because they do not hear GOD in their heart. No man can get by those "Cross Roads" by relying on his own wisdom and knowledge. Men left to themselves will invariably choose the Left or the Right and so their way to heaven is stopped perhaps permanently. ----------------------------------------------------- I have told you the truth...The Christians have abominable doctrines if they had been right....I can positively state to you ...that the Midwest also known as the bible belt would not be suffering storms, droughts and floods in biblical proportion..simply because the Lord will spare the wicked if there are enough men living righteously. And "righteously" means...Doing the Right according to God's Right. (hearing by God voice.) You will not ever get these precious truths as I have given them to you from Pastors or any Christian religion. So if you go...where will you go? Who has the words of Eternal Life? These things which I am giving you tonight... are amongst those things that the Lord could not give to His own apostles before He was taken to be crucified.... "I have yet many things to say unto you..but ye cannot bear them now." Peace be unto you bert10
  21. Hi Rekhyt......I have teachings that you have never heard from anyone...also if you opened your heart and your mind...you will see that they are true.... The CROSS: LDS do not focused only on the Cross for the means of salvation. Salvation is found in the whole Life of Christ not just on those few moments on the Cross. God did forgive sins in the OT as well as when he walked the earth. 1: Christ lived a life of perfection to show that it is possible for men to do. And so His commandment In Matthew 5:48 to be as perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect is not left unfulfilled or taught by the blind that it is impossible to live this commandment. 2. Christ suffered and bled so that He could forgive those who repented enough to cast away their hardened hearts. This is the whole aim of repentance. If a man cannot hear GOD in his heart...he has not repented enough. Hebrews 3:15 - While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. If in these last days which are also the times of the restitution of all things...men continue to keep their hardened hearts and continue to force on God their own terms of salvation then they shall be damned spiritually. Which means unable to progress. Men who after read the bible and this post continue to refuse to hear GOD in their hearts are recreating in their life the conditions that lead to the "Provocation of the Lord". 3. Jesus died and Resurrected: So that He could bring both the Just and the unjust into judgment before the Father. Acts 24:15 - And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. This is the plan of Salvation that Christ came and delivered to Men. Further symbology on the CROSS: The Cross is a tree that goes from the Ground and points straight to heaven. On the way up there is/are a CROSS BEAM (s) that represent the left [Error] and the right [Zealousness] that men choose because they do not hear GOD in their heart. No man can get by those "Cross Roads" by relying on his own wisdom and knowledge. Men left to themselves will invariably choose the Left or the Right and so their way to heaven is stopped perhaps permanently. ----------------------------------------------------- I have told you the truth...The Christians have abominable doctrines if they had been right....I can positively state to you ...that the Midwest also known as the bible belt would not be suffering storms, droughts and floods in biblical proportion..simply because the Lord will spare the wicked if there are enough men living righteously. And "righteously" means...Doing the Right according to God's Right. (hearing by God voice.) You will not ever get these precious truths as I have given them to you from Pastors or any Christian religion. So if you go...where will you go? Who has the words of Eternal Life? These things which I am giving you tonight... are amongst those things that the Lord could not give to His own apostles before He was taken to be crucified.... "I have yet many things to say unto you..but ye cannot bear them now." Now that the cross is solved and you know the truth was is your next issue? Peace be unto you bert10
  22. Hi PapilloMemnon... What is described below is called repentance. The gospel of repentance is not very well taught these days. The power of Repentance is mighty it is what can hold Satan at bay while we are doing this. Anyone who is afflicted or pressed by Satan can break his hold simply by going into Repentance. BTW did you know that this is the only thing that this church so far has been commanded to preach to the gentiles? Peace be unto you bert10
  23. Hi misshalway... With a vision comes hope and with Hope comes Faith. It is a sinful thing to be without Hope..because it is called despair...and it destroy faith. Such a person is stopped totally in his track Spiritually wise. He cannot progress...To not progress is to be "damned". As for LDS families being burdened...This is due to the resistance of what we want to do and be from what God wants us to do and be. Men and woman have forsaken their roles in the Marriages as husband, wife, father, mother and their contact with God. The Home front is in trouble...the LDS divorce rate is the same or worse by a few percentage points as the Christians in some studies. Which is 50% divorce rate before their 13 th anniversary. [uS Stats 2006] Attending church meetings, doing home teachings, Geneology etc. Cannot make up for our lost contact with God. And these things become really burdensome to do the more out of sync we are with God... They are just more things we feel we have to do and deal with when we have so many problems at home. There are three possible outcomes for people in this position. Either they will leave the church so that they can lessen their burden or this Stone [curse of the law] will grind them down until they learn to call on God and become humble and meek. Leave the Church Or they shall divorce. I also have heard it said...that when a person has decided to divorce their spouse they feel like a great burden has been removed from their shoulders. They are great penalties and dues later down the road for those who take the easy way out. They have not changed themselves internally. They seek happiness by changing the environment to suit them. This goes for religion as well which is their worship. The Curse of the Law[letter] versus the Spirit of the Law is like night and day. The Lord said that if we come into the Light....we shall find his burden easy and His Yoke Light. Like many who have divorced....many Ex-Mos say when they leave the LDS church that it feels like a heavy Stone has been removed from their shoulders. That they are now much happier. However, their family problems will not go away until they resolve them with God. Becoming Christians will not make a marriage any better. The happiness they feel is because they have become more worldly. This is because some of the resistance has been removed when they dropped their burden [LDS church]. So instead of sticking with it gaining more faith, love, endurance and patience..... and see how the Lord will bring them to repentance eventually....they have sold their birth right for a mess of pottage. I know the LDS teach to endure to the end. I think that they have skipped one step....First ONE must OVERCOME and then Endure to the END. I hope this helps. Peace be unto you bert10
  24. There are no weddings in heaven....only marriages which means Oness. However, the answer Jesus was giving them who tried to snared Him were not Pearls whom He was forbidden to give to swines [unclean]..but He did give them enough truth that they would condemn themselves with it. Weddings are not performed in heaven. They never are. But on the earth it is possible for a man and a women to wed by those who are given the keys of the kingdom. For the sealing power and authority of Christ is not undone by the Resurrection. Once a sealing is done by the Holy Spirit of Promise it is never made void unless those who have received the promises and sealings become unworthy to keep them. Any wedding performed by those who hold the keys of the Kingdom at the time of the resurrection becomes it becomes Marriage. "For others their weddings...or marriage is it done according to their faith..right? "until death do you part" -------------------------------------------------- A woman may have only but one husband in heaven...but on some other worlds...it may be possible for women to have more than one husband. I cannot rule is out. On the earth the whole truth is not revealed to all...only partially. And after death...GOD shall decides in conjunction with the woman if she wants to have her own husband or become a sister wife. In Either case the decision is made with complete understanding for her happiness. Peace be unto you bert10
  25. Hi Palerider. The people shall perish when the people have no vision. Without vision there can be no hope. And without Hope there can be no faith in which to overcome. We LDS have been given a vision which to hope for. Proverbs 29:18 - Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he. Romans 8:24 - For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? Romans 8:25 - But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it. Peace be unto you bert10