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    Traveler got a reaction from Backroads in Already   
    This year is starting out badly.  I expected it to be so but with different players igniting the fuses.  I thought that liberals would take down our capitol but it turns out to be the conservatives.   Apparently what has happening really has not been about politics.  I am convinced a solution will not come from a political party or political leadership.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler got a reaction from Anddenex in COVID-19 Dept   
    Two things have been happening with the pandemic.  First - governments have been shutting down their economies in efforts to stop the pandemic.  This shutting down has had significant impact on the world economy as businesses are going bankrupt.   Second - governments have been increasing their money supplies and borrowing money in efforts to save their economy.  60% of the world debt related to COVID-19 is being financed by China - according to the World Bank data.
    Both Trump and Liberals want much more stimulus.  But the difference is that Trump wants to open up the country's economy and the Liberal want to keep it shut down.  There is an economic war going on and if the Liberals take control of the economy in the next election - I believe the economic war will be lost to China - who know what that will mean.  Regardless, I wonder if we will soon face a world economic collapse and a depression worse than when the stock market failed.   It is also my belief that the only thing preventing a civil war in the USA is the need for greed.  With a depression the riots will definitely make matters worse.  But this may be a great opening for religious corporation.   I think things will both get better and worse.  It will be a great time to be loyal to covenants.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler reacted to Fether in 1 Nephi 3:7 and D&C 124: 49   
    @askandanswer
    A side thought that just came to me concerning the Adam and Eve issue of being commanded to multiply and replenish the earth.
    We still have that commandment today, to multiply and replenish the earth. However there are many couples that simply do not have the ability to do so due to infertility. God does not punish them for this, because of their inability to do so, they are made exempt from accomplishing this command.
    I imagine the same was with Adam and Eve. The command to multiply and replenish wasn’t given to them alone, but to mankind as a whole, they just happened to be the first of mankind and also and exception to rule (at the time of it being given).
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    Traveler reacted to JohnsonJones in 1 Nephi 3:7 and D&C 124: 49   
    A way is provided that they may be saved, though it may not be immediate.
    A prime example is why we perform baptisms for the dead.  If someone truly wished to follow the Lord and accept his gospel but the gospel was no where to be found on the earth at the time, would it be just for them to have no chance to attain exaltation?  We know the Lord is just.  If that individual strove to follow the Lord and to do what was right and if they had been given the chance would have received his gospel...their actions are with merit.  They did not strive in vain.  Instead, a way is provided that they will receive that exaltation.  In this, they are given the gospel in the Spirit world and taught Baptisms for the Dead which they can receive.  There is a way provided which they can have all the required ordinances performed in this life that was not available to them previously.  A way was provided that they may accomplish the things commanded of them.
    Sometimes the way to accomplish things may not occur to us in mortality or arrive upon us before death, but there is always a way to accomplish the work of the lord if we desire to do so as long as we strive to accomplish it to the best of our ability in this life.
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    Traveler got a reaction from mirkwood in Was Jesus married   
    Just to be sure - Do you believe that the Papal declaration that Charlemagne is a "Defender of the Faith" is the truth of how those that disagree with the Catholic religion ought to be treated?
     
    The Traveler 
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    Traveler reacted to Vort in "It's between you and God (but you better pick right)"   
    https://www.thechurchnews.com/archives/2005-05-01/elder-dallin-h-oaks-the-dedication-of-a-lifetime-91589
    The explanation I gave that man is the same explanation I give to you if you feel you are an exception to what I have said. As a General Authority, it is my responsibility to preach general principles. When I do, I don't try to define all the exceptions. There are exceptions to some rules. [...] But don't ask me to give an opinion on your exception. I only teach the general rules. Whether an exception applies to you is your responsibility. You must work that out individually between you and the Lord.
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    Traveler reacted to Carborendum in How? Satan no longer hiding his attacks...   
    The answer can be found in the footnote that you quoted (20).
    Lovers of their own selves: Society owes me something, snowflakes. Covetous: Reparations. Boasters/Proud: "I can do all the evil in the world, but you can't because "protected class" and stuff." Blasphemers: Taking the Lord's name in vain.  Making vulgar jokes/comments about God in general and Christianity specifically. Disobedient to parents: duh. Unthankful: We lived in the best economy in history, but they still want more freebies. Unholy: Hollywood, Clinton, Creepy Joe... Without natural affection: People choosing homosexuality, parents and children not having natural love and proper respect for one another.  No such thing as common decency. Trucebreakers... traitors: duh.  False accusers: Fake media. Heady = rash, without thinking, ungovernable. : ANTIFA, BLM, other rioters. High-minded =  proud. Lovers of pleasures more than God: No one wants to get married anymore. They just want to "play the field" for as long as they can. Having a form of Godliness... :  I know we normally attribute this to the sectarians.  But in our current climate, it refers to the fact that SJWs will use "Jesus Loves everyone" as a justification for ungodly ideology and acts. Creep into houses... : Internet predators as well as literal intruders creeping into bedrooms. Ever learning, never come to a knowledge of the truth: Academics, professional students, SJW degrees and authors of such. Then we're given a promise of the Lord's power to overcome:
    However, this comes only through a show of faith from the Saints of God.  Pres Nelson tells us exactly what we need to do to invite the Lord to Prevail.
    For me, in my situation, I can't really do any proselyting.  And the temples are closed.  So, the only thing I can do to gather Israel is to do indexing.  I plan on having it be a rule to have all my family do indexing a lot over the next little while.
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    Traveler reacted to CV75 in How? Satan no longer hiding his attacks...   
    All those things that are touted as virtuous but which run contrary to God's plan that have gained momentum, and in many cases victory, in the political processes among the nations. Vort listed a number of them.
    The Church is very keen on protecting religious freedom which is under attack both politically and attitudinally among the people.
    2 Timothy 3:1-7 sums it up for me.
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    Traveler reacted to JohnsonJones in How? Satan no longer hiding his attacks...   
    1.  Breaking the Law of Chastity (fornication, homosexuality) is now seen as the good and right choice and following or promoting the Law of Chastity is seen as evil by our society around us.
    2.  Posterity Gospel seems to be the favorite gospel of many people today.
    3.  Violence is craved for entertainment and we see violence promoted in almost all our media from TV to Movies to music and literature. 
    4.  Christianity is taught to be reviled and hated today and many openly speak or even act to quell or destroy the ability for Christians to worship freely or openly.
    5.  The Bible and scriptures are tossed down as evil and called all sorts of names to convince others to believe it is merely a myth rather than the word of the Lord.
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    Traveler reacted to Vort in How? Satan no longer hiding his attacks...   
    A few include:
    Elective abortion Acceptance of homosexual activities Push toward delegitimizing religion and religious activities Encouragement of hateful and illegal activities as legitimate self-expression Vulgar, distasteful, and evil actions promoted as harmless entertainment for adults and even children Every idea, proposal, or thought immediately turned into a battleground for the evil philosophies of political correctness and political expediency The very idea of patriarchy openly mocked and vilified, and men intentionally brought down in the eyes of their wives and children
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    Traveler got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Pres Nelson: Gathering Israel   
    This may help:
    Romans 4: 13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
     
    Please note that the ancient term from which we obtain the modern concept of "righteousness"  meant one that entered into and was loyal to their covenant with G-d.  The point is that being "loyal" to divine covenant is what makes an heir of G-d.  Since Jesus was loyal to his covenant he is the heir of the Father.  Those that covenant with Christ become joint-heirs with Christ.
    One difference between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Catholics is the covenant to which each institution remains loyal - in a historical context  - For example, the covenant to love your enemies and do good to those that despitefully use you.  We can test such claims  historically how the religious institutions in questions treated "heretics" or how the Defender of the Faith (by Papal decree) of Charlemagne for the murder of more northern European Pagans (including women, children and infants) than died of the Black Plague.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler got a reaction from laronius in advance planning for plan of salvation   
    I think you are leaving out the most important element of success.  But this will take some explaining and careful consideration to get right.  Many years ago my goal entering college was to become a teacher - something that I failed miserably but I learned valuable life lessons along the way.  As part of the teaching curriculum students were encouraged to include a "specialty".   Most teaching students selected what is called teaching special learners.  Special learners are in essence underachievers.  I had no interest in underachievers and as far as I know was the only student seeking a teaching career to select a specialty of exceptional learners which is another phrase for geniuses.    As part of my training for working with exceptional learners I took a class in identifying and teaching exceptional learners - or how to handle an exceptional learner in a class room of students. 
    So then, what is the number one most common denominator of the world's highest achievers?  I have posted this several times because I was very surprised to learn this for myself and I doubt very many understand the importance of this one most common denominator.  The greatest achievers have a mentor - someone that helps them along the way and teaches them how to achieve greatness.
    The skier that as a beginner takes on a double black diamond run all on their own - will most likely end up just as you have pointed out - which is, in short, failure.  Here is something to think about - I doubt that in the last several decades that anyone could provide a single Olympic gold medalist that did not have a coach that taught them how to improve in order for them to achieve the gold.
    The great life lesson in all of this is that if anyone is going to achieve - it is best that they seek to learn from the best achievers.  I have been dumbfounded how many students choose the easiest class to get the "A" grade.  Or go to work where they get the most $$$$.  Or they chose a religion that is easy for them to live up to.  If someone wishes to achieve - then they must learn from the best.  It is true that a sailor is made great by sailing through a storm - but the sailor that survives the storm is likely to make it through their first storm by the example of a great sailor.  
    More than selecting a job with a company - I have selected my mentor (boss).  But perhaps the most important choice in life is one's partner in life.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler got a reaction from Anddenex in Forgiveness   
    I believe that the divine key is agency.  The scriptures tell us that G-d "cannot" allow even the least degree of sin"  Thus it is my understanding that through the atonement of Christ that sin is overcome and justice has no claim.  However, those that do not repent fail to release themselves - or others from transgressions.  And so mercy has no place in them such that they do not exonerate themselves or forbear and release others.  In truth it appears that others cannot exonerate us - they can forbear and release but to be exonerated we must repent and turn from our sins - G-d cannot change us without our repentance.
    It seems logical that to have or exercise mercy we must first release.  And so it appears to me that the final judgement is also a forbearance type with a caveat that a place is prepared such that those that do not repent in order to release themselves may have place where they can exercise their agency and by choice keep hold of a particular sin or sins.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Pres Nelson: Gathering Israel   
    This may help:
    Romans 4: 13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
     
    Please note that the ancient term from which we obtain the modern concept of "righteousness"  meant one that entered into and was loyal to their covenant with G-d.  The point is that being "loyal" to divine covenant is what makes an heir of G-d.  Since Jesus was loyal to his covenant he is the heir of the Father.  Those that covenant with Christ become joint-heirs with Christ.
    One difference between the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Catholics is the covenant to which each institution remains loyal - in a historical context  - For example, the covenant to love your enemies and do good to those that despitefully use you.  We can test such claims  historically how the religious institutions in questions treated "heretics" or how the Defender of the Faith (by Papal decree) of Charlemagne for the murder of more northern European Pagans (including women, children and infants) than died of the Black Plague.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Was Jesus married   
    As a scientist, what any individual comes up with as a belief means very little to me - I am much more interested in why they believe something to be true.  I have two questions for you:
    #1. Why are you Catholic - specifically what lengths have you gone through so that you identify as Catholic - specifically what empirical evidence and/or spiritual revelation.
    #2.  Since you have conformed Catholicism at "the Truth" - why do you intensively study other faiths?
     
    Thanks
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler got a reaction from askandanswer in Was Jesus married   
    It has always been interesting to me what is assumed about G-d among many religious thinkers.  There is a lot of terms and conditions used in scripture - all of which points to the possibility that both Jesus and his Father are personally involved in intimate marriage covenants and relationships.  For example, in the ancient Israel (Jewish) society it was socially unacceptable for a man to NOT be married (man is not without the woman nor is the woman without the man in the L-rd).  The title of Rabbi in that ancient society required a person be married.  Jesus was often called Rabbi by the Pharisees that were using every means at their disposal to discredit Jesus.  Had he not been married they would have leveraged that unusual condition to discredit him.
    We live in a  life, culture and society that is currently discrediting the sacred marriage covenant.  Sadly many religions have positioned their understanding of G-d in such a manner to debase the sacred marriage relationship as something ung-dly and not divine.  Despite all the nonsense arguments concerning the marriage of Jesus - I have never see any creditable evidence that Jesus was not married.  You would think that if this most unnormal and unnatural condition was a necessity to qualify Jesus for being the Messiah - that there would be something in scripture to justify it.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler got a reaction from NeedleinA in Was Jesus married   
    You should have asked if Nuns are "married" (betrothed) to Jesus?  Which would definingly mean that Jesus has many many wives (more than any man that has ever been on earth) as expressed or understood by extensions of Catholic doctrine.   To be honest, I find it a bit of hypocrisy for a Catholic to question any religion's doctrine  as to possible betrothal of Jesus.  
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler reacted to CV75 in Pres Nelson: Gathering Israel   
    In October General Conference he made this invitation: "As you study your scriptures during the next six months, I encourage you to make a list of all that the Lord has promised He will do for covenant Israel. I think you will be astounded! Ponder these promises. Talk about them with your family and friends. Then live and watch for these promises to be fulfilled in your own life." https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2020/11/46nelson?lang=eng
    "We live in a glorious age, foreseen by prophets for centuries. This is the dispensation when no spiritual blessing will be withheld from the righteous. Despite the world’s commotion, the Lord would have us look forward to the future “with joyful anticipation.” Let us not spin our wheels in the memories of yesterday. The gathering of Israel moves forward. The Lord Jesus Christ directs the affairs of His Church, and it will achieve its divine objectives." https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2020/11/58nelson?lang=eng
    He mentions gathering three times in his opening remarks as well: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2020/11/11nelson?lang=eng
    The covenants and blessings are tied to the Gathering of Israel. I think it is a call to activate the "belonging module" in our spirits -- reach out to others on both sides of veil in various ways, be loyal to the Church and fellow members above all other identities, and promote this loyalty (one heart and one mind of Zion) that is based on the principal basics of testimony and ordinances.
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    Traveler reacted to NeedleinA in I have been deceived   
    They appear to be triggered by the "Indian band" part?
    Wonder how they feel about the state name "Utah"?
    How about them Utah Utes... double whammy
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    Traveler got a reaction from JohnsonJones in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    Just a note - It seems to me that the pattern in the Book of Mormon that a society (government) is in decline (hanging by a thread) is first manifested in that societies lawyers and judges.  In addition this manifestation began with a two tear application of the law that divided the society into those that were governed by law and those that were not governed by the law - in essence were not subject to law or held accountable under the law.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler got a reaction from JohnsonJones in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    Just a note - It seems to me that the pattern in the Book of Mormon that a society (government) is in decline (hanging by a thread) is first manifested in that societies lawyers and judges.  In addition this manifestation began with a two tear application of the law that divided the society into those that were governed by law and those that were not governed by the law - in essence were not subject to law or held accountable under the law.
     
    The Traveler
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    Traveler reacted to JohnsonJones in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    You should read a book called Supreme Power by Ted Stewart, which is a very interesting commentary on the evolution of the Supreme Court.
    Supreme Power : 7 Pivotal Supreme Court Decisions that had a Major Impact on America
    One thing I see that has changed and dramatically altered how the Supreme Court works is not the Supreme Court basically has been enabled to write laws.
    A prime example...
    With the Gay Marriage laws that have come into effect, previously before it had this power, the Supreme Court could have ruled laws AGAINST Gay Marriage as Unconstitutional, but it could not have mandated laws to be made to equalize them.  Thus, there would be a vacuum until such laws were made in accordance to recognize Gay Marriage on the same footing as Traditional Marriages.  Instead, the laws were conformed immediately to take into effect the Gay Marriage as the same exact thing in a legal sense (which is writing new laws) as other Marriages.  In my thoughts...of course.
    Traditionally, when originally created, the Supreme Court had the ability to rule things unconstitutional and mandates in accordance, but not necessarily the ability to actually write and create laws without the approval of Congress being involved with the process...once again...in my feelings on the matter.
    Ironically, even Judicial Review, which we take for granted today, was not inherently felt to be given until over a decade after the Constitution was written, but this review has expanded today into what we see where not only can it strike down, it can also mandate laws put in place to enforce such things (for example, striking down a school districts regulations and ordering it to pay fines in order and to create new organizations...thus by ordering new organizations to be made to create equality, also dictating new laws in order to mandate such actions to occur).
    Because of this, those who wish to force the creation of new laws which otherwise cannot be passed via the traditional means either by vote or through Congressional legality, have pushed for more Judicial activism regarding the Federal Courts all the up to the Supreme Court.
    How far this could go is questionable, but with more extremes placed upon it, one could see that this may result in a Crisis in the future.
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    Traveler reacted to Fether in Anyone Else Watching The Mandalorian?   
    I think we are talking about different things.
    you said 
    “that scoff at much in religion for being unrealistic and unrelated to reality are so attracted to modern sci-fi”
    I was intending to point out that the reason they are likely ok with sci-fi is because it isn’t trying to claim reality. Religion on the other hand is claiming reality for something equally as crazy as sci-fi. That is where they have the issue. One is a story, the other is reality.
    Maybe the misunderstanding was in my part
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    Traveler reacted to NeuroTypical in Christmas and gifting   
    This is one of the most anxiety-provoking questions for me.  I have a multidecadelong track record of either overgifting, or undergifting.  Everyone else seems to get it but me.
    My answer: "The greatest gift for extended family and neighbors, is a gift that is expected, and roughly reciprocated on the same level of emotional connection as yours, without generating any awkward pauses or askance glances."
    [Now if you'll forgive me, it's time to go lock myself in my closet and rock back and forth, stressing over my choices for this year.]
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    Traveler reacted to Vort in Christmas and gifting