Fether Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/03/10/milo-yiannopoulos-announces-he-is-ex-gay-and-sodomy-free/amp/ Quote
Just_A_Guy Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 *Shrug* We’ll see where he is in ten years. One does wonder whether his husband will be as understanding, long-suffering, and supportive of the destruction of their marriage; as straight women are expected to be when their husbands come out. But again—time will tell. Jane_Doe and Carborendum 2 Quote
NeuroTypical Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 Dude is a professional provocateur that deals in meta-ironic multiple layers of sarcasm, so I honestly can't tell. We'll have to see. Yes, everything about him is nonstop trolling, but I can't tell who or what is being trolled, or why. I will point out that Anne Rice, author of the Interview with a Vampire books, has a fun multidecade long rollercoaster ride in and out of Christianity and Catholicism. Some of that is reflected in her vampire books. Quote
Traveler Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 It was once said that - "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time." What I have a hard time with is understanding why anyone would want to fool anybody ever? - Especially themselves. Shakespeare once said, "To thine own self be true and it shall follow as the night the day, Thou cannot not be false with any man." I am convinced that efforts to deceive (or hide truth) does the most damage to the culprit. Having observed so many times (especially with myself) when things go upside down wrong - the greater error or sin is always in the effort to cover it up. I am also convinced that it is not near as bad to be deceived by a liar as it is to refuse to believe (or welcome or support) someone telling (or trying to tell) the truth. The Traveler Quote
Vort Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Traveler said: What I have a hard time with is understanding why anyone would want to fool anybody ever? I $ee many po$$ible rea$on$ to de¢ieve $omeone. SilentOne, scottyg, Carborendum and 1 other 1 3 Quote
Carborendum Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Traveler said: Shakespeare once said, "To thine own self be true and it shall follow as the night the day, Thou cannot not be false with any man." I'd like to interject something not germane to the topic, but with this quote. It is important to note that Shakespeare never said this. He wrote it to be said by the character Plonius. The nit-picky distinction here is that Polonius was kind of a doofus. And these "pearls of wisdom" that he was imparting to his son as he was preparing to head out to school abroad were considered cliche'd and naive attempts at wisdom. Things that they teach you in kindergarten kind of things. The fact these very trite sayings were the best that Polonius could come up with were an indication of how much of a fool he was. Such was his lack of mental capacity. He also didn't follow his own advice. Today, people tend to invoke them as profound, when it was never meant to be that way by Shakespeare, himself. Edited March 11, 2021 by Carborendum MrShorty and dprh 1 1 Quote
Traveler Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Vort said: I $ee many po$$ible rea$on$ to de¢ieve $omeone. However, it (the deception trade for $$$$) did not turn our so well for Louis the XVI or Nicholas II. The Traveler Quote
Traveler Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Carborendum said: I'd like to interject something not germane to the topic, but with this quote. It is important to note that Shakespeare never said this. He wrote it to be said by the character Plonius. The nit-picky distinction here is that Polonius was kind of a doofus. And these "pearls of wisdom" that he was imparting to his son as he was preparing to head out to school abroad were considered cliche'd and naive attempts at wisdom. Things that they teach you in kindergarten kind of things. The fact these very trite sayings were the best that Polonius could come up with were an indication of how much of a fool he was. Such was his lack of mental capacity. He also didn't follow his own advice. Today, people tend to invoke them as profound, when it was never meant to be that way by Shakespeare, himself. I think you missed Shakespeare's irony of literary tragedy. Plonius proves the point of the saying by not being true to himself. The Traveler Quote
Carborendum Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Traveler said: I think you missed Shakespeare's irony of literary tragedy. Plonius proves the point of the saying by not being true to himself. Did I? 27 minutes ago, Carborendum said: He also didn't follow his own advice. No, it doesn't seem like I did. Quote
Just_A_Guy Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Carborendum said: I'd like to interject something not germane to the topic, but with this quote. It is important to note that Shakespeare never said this. He wrote it to be said by the character Plonius. The nit-picky distinction here is that Polonius was kind of a doofus. And these "pearls of wisdom" that he was imparting to his son as he was preparing to head out to school abroad were considered cliche'd and naive attempts at wisdom. Things that they teach you in kindergarten kind of things. The fact these very trite sayings were the best that Polonius could come up with were an indication of how much of a fool he was. Such was his lack of mental capacity. He also didn't follow his own advice. Today, people tend to invoke them as profound, when it was never meant to be that way by Shakespeare, himself. What a piece of work is man! Carborendum 1 Quote
Carborendum Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said: What a piece of work is man! Man delights not me. Edited March 11, 2021 by Carborendum Quote
Vort Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Carborendum said: Man delights not me. lonetree, Just_A_Guy, scottyg and 1 other 1 3 Quote
Fether Posted March 11, 2021 Author Report Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Vort said: I $ee many po$$ible rea$on$ to de¢ieve $omeone. Milo has been particularly quiet the last couple years. It was actually my first thought that this might be the first in a series of inappropriate jokes to poke at the far left. But his long period of silence may be evidence of his attempts to reinvigorate his catholic beliefs. Michael Knowles, a catholic political speaker himself, said he had heard Milo was spending a lot of time recently trying to deepen his catholic faith. Vort 1 Quote
Vort Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 45 minutes ago, Fether said: Milo has been particularly quiet the last couple years. It was actually my first thought that this might be the first in a series of inappropriate jokes to poke at the far left. But his long period of silence may be evidence of his attempts to reinvigorate his catholic beliefs. Michael Knowles, a catholic political speaker himself, said he had heard Milo was spending a lot of time recently trying to deepen his catholic faith. For his sake, I hope that's the case. Fether, SilentOne and scottyg 3 Quote
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