Carborendum Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/jacksonville-florida-shooting-dollar-general-ryan-palmeter-b2401102.html A racist white gunman shot three black people in Jacksonville, FL shooting. Those gathered around the vigil jeered and booed Gov DeSantis for speaking. The sentiment was that because DeSantis had loosened gun restrictions, it was his fault that the gunman had the guns in the first place. Therefore, the shooting was his fault. The gunman flat out wanted to kill some black people. Now he's going to jail. Well good riddance... except... https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ron-desantis-jacksonville-shooting-ryan-palmeter-b2401111.html The case is now no longer about the victims and the shooter. It is now about "It's DeSantis's fault." The thing that I haven't been able to find is why the "loosening of gun restrictions" (Constitutional carry) had any effect on whether the guy could have a gun. They make no mention of any prior legal issues. No history of mental illness. No public statements that he was going to kill anyone. No domestic violence complaints. The only fact they keep hammering is the fact that he is a racist. Nothing would have shown up in a background check. If DeSantis had not changed any gun restrictions in the state, would the situation have been any different? I have no idea because no one bothered to even ask the question, much less answer it. How can you blame him for doing something that at the surface level seems to have no effect on the current case. The reason why they're doing this is: He was racist. Because of this red flag, he never "should" have had a gun under (proper) red flag laws. All white people are racist. Natural conclusion: No white people should have guns. I've never heard anyone (right or left) actually say it in this framing. But have we not heard these statements isolated from each other? Is this not the natural conclusion of the overall ideology with these core principles? Edited August 29, 2023 by Carborendum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnsonJones Posted September 2, 2023 Report Share Posted September 2, 2023 Those blaming DeSantis are angry people that are looking to blame anything they can on DeSantis. Their logic makes no sense if you really look at what happened. That does not matter to them. They simply want to have others agree with them so they can put a black mark on DeSantis. LDSGator and Backroads 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still_Small_Voice Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 So glad the news of the hurricane hitting Florida drowned out the calls for more citizen gun control in the State. No one in the mainstream news seems to care about the murders of black people continually in Chicago. Our mainstream news media is pretty corrupt. Carborendum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSGator Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Still_Small_Voice said: So glad the news of the hurricane hitting Florida drowned out the calls for more citizen gun control in the State Good luck with that. Even the liberals down here own guns. Edited September 4, 2023 by LDSGator NeuroTypical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 I've realized how dirty and corrupt politics are when pundits/analysts use the phrase "adult in the room" to describe a candidate, and it's akin to the kiss of death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSGator Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, prisonchaplain said: I've realized how dirty and corrupt politics are when pundits/analysts use the phrase "adult in the room" to describe a candidate, and it's akin to the kiss of death. It’s like when someone says “Joey is a nice guy…” then boom. Always the killshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSGator Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 And the story is going nowhere down here. I wish the democrats the very best if they try to run with this one. DeSantis is very, very popular down here. He was just in the next town over inspecting flood damage. Say what you want about his politics but I’ve heard he’s actually a very nice guy and good person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, LDSGator said: Say what you want about his politics but I’ve heard he’s actually a very nice guy and good person. You make him sound like the adult in the room. 😉 Vort and LDSGator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSGator Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, prisonchaplain said: You make him sound like the adult in the room. 😉 Lol!!!! That’s awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikbone Posted September 5, 2023 Report Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) The only thing I know about him, is that this is how he eats pudding. And he has a hot wife. Not gonna get my inconsequential California vote. Edited September 5, 2023 by mikbone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted September 6, 2023 Report Share Posted September 6, 2023 4 hours ago, mikbone said: The only thing I know about him, is that this is how he eats pudding. And he has a hot wife. People with hot wives can eat pudding any way they want. I do. 😉 Carborendum and mikbone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted September 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2023 On 9/5/2023 at 8:16 PM, prisonchaplain said: People with hot wives can eat pudding any way they want. I do. 😉 They can also eat all the kim chee they want. Ask me how I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Carborendum said: They can also eat all the kim chee they want. Ask me how I know. I'm guessing it's the same way I know. 😉 Edited September 10, 2023 by prisonchaplain Carborendum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Carborendum said: They can also eat all the kim chee they want. Ask me how I know. 1 hour ago, prisonchaplain said: I'm guessing it's the same way I know. 😉 Polyandry? zil2, Carborendum and prisonchaplain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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