Democrats Making a Shift

[NeuroTypical]

I learned about AOC and Tom Homan both in the same 2019 video.   Everything I have learned about them since has pretty much aligned with their performance on this video. 

 

[mordorbund]

2 hours ago, Carborendum said:

A long-time politician who has not contributed in any meaningful way to the political discourse in over 30 years.

Sanders is the Ron Paul of the DNC. He may be marginalized among the Party’s power brokers, but he resonates with a sizable portion of the base and is a direct influence of the younger generation of leaders — including AOC.

[LDSGator]

18 minutes ago, mordorbund said:

Sanders is the Ron Paul of the DNC. He may be marginalized among the Party’s power brokers, but he resonates with a sizable portion of the base and is a direct influence of the younger generation of leaders — including AOC.

I disagree with him on 90% of the issues, but that’s a very fair assessment.
 

Bernie has no idea how the real world works. Imagine being 80+ years old and learning nothing in those years.  

[Carborendum]

54 minutes ago, mordorbund said:

Sanders is the Ron Paul of the DNC. He may be marginalized among the Party’s power brokers, but he resonates with a sizable portion of the base and is a direct influence of the younger generation of leaders — including AOC.

Interesting comparison.  One is all about individual liberty. The other is all about the nanny state.  Right and left in a nutshell.

Both somewhat acknowledged and respected (as such) on their sides.  Both largely ignored by their peers.  Both respected by a small, but loyal following in their demesne.  Neither seemed to have made a large impact politically or culturally.

I really like Ron Paul.  But the fact is that Ron (and Bernie) never made any significant, lasting effect on the populus or the political system.  But Ron Paul was possibly the most incorruptible person to ever walk the halls of government. 

Sanders stayed away from a large part of the government corruption.  But you simply can't keep rooting for socialism/communism without being corrupt at some level.

[Traveler]

 

6 hours ago, mordorbund said:

Sanders is the Ron Paul of the DNC. He may be marginalized among the Party’s power brokers, but he resonates with a sizable portion of the base and is a direct influence of the younger generation of leaders — including AOC.

 

5 hours ago, LDSGator said:

I disagree with him on 90% of the issues, but that’s a very fair assessment.
 

Bernie has no idea how the real world works. Imagine being 80+ years old and learning nothing in those years.  

Sanders is a glowing example of how a lifetime politician can become a multi-millionaire far beyond their salaries.  I think he knows a great deal about how the “real” world works – which has more to do with corruption than public service.

 

The Traveler

[Carborendum]

I never saw this coming.  But David Hogg said something that I 100% agree with.

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I don’t even know if it makes sense for us to have the gender balance rule anymore in this day and age, because I want to focus on whoever’s just best at the job, great at this point, that’s my idea.

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Ultimately, what we have to do here is figure out how to bring people back in and work towards the bigger goal of advancing the future of this country...

No wonder the Dems are trying to get him out of there.

Oh, wait!  He also said:

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Young people should be able to focus on what young people should be focused on, which is how to get laid and how to go and have fun.

David Hogg: Dems have abandoned men

[Phoenix_person]

A bit of family news, my BIL just got elected to be the new chairman of the Utah Co Dem Party. This is how he broke the news on Bluesky. 😂

 

[NeuroTypical]

This guy?  BYU professor Darin Self?  https://www.darinself.com/

 

[Phoenix_person]

45 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

This guy?  BYU professor Darin Self?  https://www.darinself.com/

 

Yes, he's married to my sister.

[LDSGator]

Very cool @Phoenix_person! 

[Vort]

On 5/17/2025 at 4:58 PM, Phoenix_person said:

A bit of family news, my BIL just got elected to be the new chairman of the Utah Co Dem Party. This is how he broke the news on Bluesky. 😂

 

That's actually pretty funny. Congrats to your BIL and his sense of humor.

[Ironhold]

On 5/15/2025 at 8:26 AM, Carborendum said:

I never saw this coming.  But David Hogg said something that I 100% agree with.

No wonder the Dems are trying to get him out of there.

Oh, wait!  He also said:

David Hogg: Dems have abandoned men

It's become a punchline, even among women, how feminists will declare that men are the cause of all of society's ills, demand that men be forcibly segregated away from women so that women can be "protected", and then get upset because men are no longer participating in society. 

As I've mentioned before, this is a big part of why a lot of dudes would rather plunk down $30 for an anime girl statue if they want companionship than try their local dating scene. 

Edited Tuesday at 11:04 PM by Ironhold

[LDSGator]

8 minutes ago, Ironhold said:

feminists will declare that men are the cause of all of society's ill

I think modern feminism no longer does this. They are battling amongst themselves about if they should call transgender women “women”. 

[Ironhold]

1 hour ago, LDSGator said:

I think modern feminism no longer does this. They are battling amongst themselves about if they should call transgender women “women”. 

Oh, it's still going on. 

In fact, a few years ago a "feminist" publication actually featured a "think piece" in which the author argued that all men should be forcibly relocated to concentration camps for the "safety" of women the world over. 

Or last year a group of internet feminists started a meme about how if they had to choose between being lost in the woods with a man or lost in the woods with a bear they'd choose the bear because they believed that they'd be safer with the bear than with a random man, only for both genders to bombard them with retaliatory memes showing either men having to console the bears after being alone with those internet feminists or the internet feminists discovering the hard way why men were traditionally the protectors of society. 

Meanwhile, that anime girl figure is always going to greet you with a smile, is always going to listen when you need to express your feelings, will never use anything you say in confidence against you, will never say you aren't good enough, and will never abandon you of her own accord. Hence why a lot of guys - and even some women - are choosing the arm of PVC over the arm of flesh when it comes to companionship. 

[Ironhold]

16 hours ago, Ironhold said:

Oh, it's still going on. 

In fact, a few years ago a "feminist" publication actually featured a "think piece" in which the author argued that all men should be forcibly relocated to concentration camps for the "safety" of women the world over. 

Or last year a group of internet feminists started a meme about how if they had to choose between being lost in the woods with a man or lost in the woods with a bear they'd choose the bear because they believed that they'd be safer with the bear than with a random man, only for both genders to bombard them with retaliatory memes showing either men having to console the bears after being alone with those internet feminists or the internet feminists discovering the hard way why men were traditionally the protectors of society. 

Meanwhile, that anime girl figure is always going to greet you with a smile, is always going to listen when you need to express your feelings, will never use anything you say in confidence against you, will never say you aren't good enough, and will never abandon you of her own accord. Hence why a lot of guys - and even some women - are choosing the arm of PVC over the arm of flesh when it comes to companionship. 

To follow up my comments - 

If a person is dealing with poor mental health issues or is neurodivergent, it can be very hard for them to feel the Spirit, or anything else positive for that matter. 

In extreme instances, such as if a person has been subjected to spiritual or emotional abuse, they might even be convinced that they don't deserve to have Heavenly Father act on their behalf, or that Heavenly Father has somehow abandoned them. 

Someone who is in such a state will have an emotional void inside of them, and they're going to try and fill it. Thing is, a person who is down so far that they have such an emotional void is more often than not going to be in a negative spiral where they don't entirely know how to handle social interactions, get rejected by society because they don't entirely know how to handle social interactions, feel that void widen, try again to engage with society, and so forth. 

If a person finds themself completely socially isolated because of their repeated failures, or that void otherwise crosses a metaphorical event horizon of some kind, then that person is going to seek for anything that will help at least take the edge off of the pain that void has left them, let alone actually fill it. 

If the void is in any part the result of a lack of social interaction and personal companionship, then odds are the person will seek to fill it through artificial companionship like anime girl figures, AI "girlfriend" programs, adult content, and/or other such methods. Even the whole "talking to strangers on the internet" will help suffice them, but only to a certain point. 

Thing is, society has a very bad habit of looking at people who are down this far, declaring that they are the cause of their own misfortune, and walking away instead of actually trying to regard these individuals *as* individuals and trying to determine how best to intervene. 

This is a massive part of why so many young men are going over to the Alt Right, the Tate Brothers, and other such alarming sources of influence, as these sources of influence are among the few places that will openly accept them as they are and they're so grateful for any level of acceptance that they're not asking questions. 

Cue the Democrats and "progressive" groups further subjecting these individuals to social othering, inadvertently reinforcing the person's decision to become affiliated with these groups and movements. 

This generation doesn't really have a Fred Rogers or Bob Ross to serve as a positive mass-media unifying source of self-affirmation and socialization instruction, and the people like myself who do try to compensate for this often have a comparatively limited reach. Plus, we're trying to do what we're doing on top of our own issues. 

If the Democrats want to stem the influence of these various groups, they need to drop the whole "men are evil!" and "men don't need help" mantras from their party platforms and instead focus on social intervention to help people who are on the fringes or experiencing poor mental health get the help they need.