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In my younger years as a parent, I remember thinking “why can’t those parents keep their children quiet, or keep them in their seats during Sacrament meeting? My children are able to sit still and be quiet.” I was definitely being judgmental. Then, when my daughter died in a car accident, her two-month old son survived but with a brain injury, (I wonder if it contributed to him being on the autism spectrum?), we pretty much raised him. We would be sitting in Sacrament meeting, and he would suddenly get up and dart up onto the stand. He was a handful. I simply wasn’t prepared as a parent, even though I had raised 7 other children before him, to know how to deal with his behavior, or how to discipline or incentivize him to behave. He’s 20 now, and I still flounder with knowing how to help him flourish. He’s very high functioning, brilliant in areas of language skills, but has an eating disorder and other quirks. I feel like I have failed him as a parent. Anyhow, I’m a little more understanding of children who misbehave. Though, I do admit I find it hard to condone parents who blatantly just sit there and let their children be disruptive.

I really appreciate the support. I'm a little odd in that I moved to a rural area that is predominantly LDS but working for an organization of a couple hundred people that are 95% from other parts of the country. There is an anti local, anti Mormon attitude that is common amongst my co workers. As I've been here a while and have become friends with more and more locals ive realized that these are good people and that a lot of their positive attributes are due to their beliefs.

Greetings! Investigator here..

Good for you, though I'm very sorry for the tragic route you've taken. Ftr, I'm talking about the parents who smile benignly as their little children run screaming through the aisles.

Yes, but parents be parents, and parents should discipline their children.

Contrary to what a lot of "progressive" individuals wish to believe, a lot of people who identify as "conservative" do so because they believe that old and new need to be tested against each other in order to determine the best way forward, and that rejecting one or the other wholesale will only lead to misery. To put it bluntly, a lot of the problems we're seeing in society these days are a result of people rejecting the old norms, traditions, and standards wholesale, only to discover the hard way why things were done a certain way for so long. This includes the realization that rejecting older institutions without providing something that can replace what these institutions offered in the way of structure and guidance was a bad idea. It's tragic that your own family is seeing this for itself.

I know the 'Lamanite' girl personally. She is hispanic

I'm in Kane County north of Kanab.

Interesting. Where do you live?

I have a daughter that left the Church because she has concluded that women are 2nd class citizens within the society of Latter-day Saints. For a number of years this controversy caused divisions (sometimes angry exchanges) within our family and particularly between myself and my daughter. Over the years I have come to the conclusion that angry exchanges are harmful to both myself and my daughter so for a while I avoided such topics. Currently, I am able to discuss things without becoming angry or responding to her anger and things have gotten much better --- but there is another side to all this. Her 4 children (my grandchildren) have continually drifted and have become quite confused over morals. For a while the grandkids would attend church with us when we visited, or they visited us. It has been a long time since they have chosen not to go with us to church. It was decided by my daughter and her husband that kids should figure out their own moral directions and religious connections. This has been most difficult for the kids and as they are reaching adulthood in this confusing world they have not done well. Two of the children have become lost and developed addictions. The addictions have resulted in severe mental illness issues to the point that it is doubtful that they will ever be able to ever live on their own without some assistance. Sadly, daughter is coming to her senses and realizing that leaving the church and the moral mooring living standards bring – is the primary factor in her children succumbing to damaging temptations – just not enough yet to return to protections of living by covenant. It is important that each person develop their own faith in G-d but if a person determines to become an agent unto themselves – it is not just their lives that are affected. It is not uncommon for innocent children (or others) to suffer consequences sometimes for many generations. With such damage I marvel that the atonement of Christ is able to unravel whatever damage we can do to ourselves and others. The Traveler

Fast forward a couple years and my desire to reconnect with God led me to looking at various denominations of Christianity and once I started researching The CoJCoLDS it was like it hit me that this feels so true that I need to continue moving down this path.

If they were my daughters or perhaps my sisters who were involved in such shenanigans, I would probably feel great sorrow. As it is, I think it's wonderful that such wolves are removing their sheepskins so that we can more easily detect them.

In my estimate, I have paid around $51,000 into Social Security over my life of working and I will probably never collect it. Give the Federal Government control of part of your retirement funds. What could possibly go wrong? Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme ever created in my opinion.

Notice that the answer to "How is it done?" is not a lesson in the details of divine spiritual mechanics. Nothing like "if one who is innocent willingly accepts the natural consequence of blah blah blah" here, just an immediate reference to the blood of Christ—literally, HOW one accesses forgiveness. Like someone asking, "How do I get to the 104th floor of this skyscraper?", and the respondent not launching into a lecture about stairs and incremental rises against gravity or counterweights and electric motors, but rather just pointing the guy toward the elevator door.

That’s a really great idea. It shows how much the church values families.

I've never seen such a thing. What I have seen: Members of the Stake Presidency sitting with the bishopric The Stake High Councillor assigned to the ward sitting with the bishopric A member of the EQP sitting with the lone bishopric member in attendance That's it. Anyone else on the stand is over where the speakers sit, and they're speaking or otherwise participating (or sometimes another person from the Stake High Council there to present stake callings). I wonder if some wards have been having the RSP sitting on the stand and Church HQ got wind and told them to stop.

In addition to a somewhat religious Easter message, I'm going to re-run a column I did a bit back explaining the concept of "Easter Eggs" in media (that is, hidden items in entertainment media that are meant to amuse the audience).

Sadly, the rebellion continues. Apparently, these women (or some women) called for sisters to "boycott" yesterday's Sunday meetings and the RS broadcast last night over this issue. Satan is laughing. In what way does refraining from worship and instruction aid anyone? Anywho, before knowing anything about the boycott, my extremely introverted self opted not to go to the stake center last night, knowing I could watch it online today (at 2x, with pauses for pondering or notes, as I wished). So this morning, as I was scrolling through IG, President Nelson's account had a portion of his talk from last night, and many of the comments were sadly negative, including complaints related to this sitting on the stand issue. I read those negative comments and then went and watched the broadcast. Funny thing: all but one concern those commenters had was addressed in some way by one of the speakers. If they had only listened to the broadcast, with humble hearts, seeking answers through the Spirit, their minds could have been enlightened. Satan is deceiving "the very elect" with things like this, and it's heartbreaking. Refraining from worship and instruction (surely the equivalent of telling the Spirit to take a hike) isn't the answer, sisters - faith, humility, covenants, Jesus Christ is the answer. And if you think you don't have power or access or whatever, go re-read President Nelson's October 2019 GC talk, "Spiritual Treasures": This is nothing new. Stop listening to the world and listen to Christ.

Thank you all. I'm hoping to get a little theological insight and exposure to some different views. So far everything that I have researched resonates with me much more than other denominations but my more importantly, my most powerful experience with feeling the spirit came when I was listening to a sermon? at General conference I believe by president? Nelson.

I believe the Counsel of 50 will be set up governmentally. When it was set up earlier in this dispensation it included members and non-members. I believe it will be similar.