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He sits in Sunday School class and talks on his iphone.... and before anyone come and get angry with me for saying that, I love him! But that's exactly what he does during Sunday School.
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Oh come on Bini! We know you better than that!
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Personally, I think we are talking about different seer stones, more than two perhaps three. I believe the one Smith gave Cowdery was a different one than the one Jane allegedly held. President Joseph Fielding Smith gave his opinion on the matter:
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Reading the title of this thread and: Do you have Aspergers?
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It's interesting you say that because it brings back memories about my grandmother. She used to give my sister and I lots of coffee to drink during winter time (long story). I never liked the smell but didn't mind the taste once it had a lil milk.
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Okay, I wasn't going to reply to this thread because I didn't want to be the cause of someone vomiting if they were eating while reading this thread but I can't take it any longer... Coffee smells like poo therefore it's easy to give it up. Who wants to drink poo anyways?
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...And he was correct. That's because after the 116 pages were lost, Smith didn't get back the Urim and Thummim (according to Whitmer) who said the Prophet was presented with a seer stone instead to complete the translation.
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JAG, the discrepancy seems to come from the term "Urim and Thummim". Early Church members, including Apostles and Prophets used the term a little different as we are used to. They used it to describe both seer stones (Joseph Smith used several) and the Nephites "interpreters". Jane Manning James wasn't the only one referring to the Urim and Thummim in that manner after 1830. We have Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff, Orson and Parley P. Pratt, Heber C. Kimball between others. I could provide several examples of this in Church history using these early members as well as Joseph and Emma if you would like me to.
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Why would anyone object to the idea that Jesus was married?
Suzie replied to Vort's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
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Word of Wisdom and marijuana. Very serious.
Suzie replied to TStevieRob's topic in General Discussion
Yes, that's a completely different story and I won't considered that "medical" use of cannabis. -
Word of Wisdom and marijuana. Very serious.
Suzie replied to TStevieRob's topic in General Discussion
I have my reservations with regards to the medical use of cannabis but I know it doesn't stop someone from obtaining a temple recommend as long as they can show a doctor's prescription for it's use. -
Yesterday was Pioneer day and over By Common Consent, Margaret Young wrote a very inspiring blog post on Jane Manning James. I love the story of this woman. I wrote a post about her last year here on lds.net and I thought in sharing it with you again: Jane Elizabeth Manning James. She was an African-American LDS member born in Connecticut in the 1820's. She was born free (not slave) but worked as a servant in the farm of a very wealthy white family. She was a Presbyterian and when our missionaries traveled to the area (around 1841) where she lived and Jane listened to their message, she knew instantly that she has found what she has been looking for and decided to be baptized the following Sunday. Around a year or two after her conversion, she led a group of relatives (8 of them) to Nauvoo along with the Saints of the area. The whole family prepared and traveled with the larger group of members of the Church. However, they were separated in New York after the steamboat captain refused Jane and family entry because they were African Americans. The captain also refused to give them their belongings that were already packed in the boat. This unfortunate event that probably could make most people give up and lose hope didn't stop this wonderful and faithful sister. She was determined to be in Nauvoo, no matter what it would take. Jane and her family decided to walk to Nauvoo (800 miles), experiencing harsh weather conditions, illnesses, almost ending in prison (authorities demanded that they present documents that would prove they weren't slaves and after a long interview, they were allowed to leave and were able to convince the authorities that they were free). Jane said that they walked until their shoes were worn out and their feet were so sore that they cracked open and bled to the point of making bloody prints on the ground. However, they prayed together and asked Heavenly Father to heal their feet and He did and they were able to continue the journey. When they reached Nauvoo the members of the Church after seeing them didn't greet them as she was expecting. However there was a very special person who greeted her and her relatives with love: The Prophet Joseph Smith. She was able to find his house and when Joseph saw her, he took a chair and sat by Jane and said "You have been the head of this little band, haven't you?" (I close my eyes and I feel like I can almost imagine the voice of the Prophet saying this with a smile on his face). Jane, humbly answered "Yes, sir". He then said "God bless you". He also told her "You are now among friends and you will be protected". A week passed and each relative of Jane was able to find a job and a place to live except Jane. Her family left for their new jobs in the morning and the Prophet saw Jane crying and asked her why she was so upset and she told him that all her relatives got themselves homes and she got none. And it's very hard to write this now (without getting emotional) the Prophet told her that yes, she has a house, "right here if you want it", he comforted her and said she mustn't cry and left the room and brought Emma with him. Emma welcomed her with open arms and from that day, Jane became a servant in the Smith house helping Emma with chores such as washing and ironing. Emma became very close to Jane and even offered her "adoption", meaning being sealed to the Prophet and her as a child but she not understanding at that time what it meant, politely refused. One of the first chores she did the next morning was the washing of clothes and saw the Prophet's temple garments and said: After Joseph Smith died, she lived in Brigham Young's house. There she met and married another member of the Church named Isaac James, they had 8 children and their third child was the first African American child born in Utah territory. Both of them worked very hard and were able to purchase a farm and accumulate horses, sheep, chickens and all sort of animals until the crickets came and destroyed most of their crops. Jane and her kids suffered harsh weather conditions, no money and hunger. She related how hard it was for her to listen her kids cry for bread and yet have none to give them. This was just the beginning of sorrows... Her husband decided to leave her and the kids (he returned more than 20 years later, short before he died) and Jane had to be the breadwinner in her large family. Her income wasn't much but she did the best she could and worked in washing, sewing, soap making that allowed her at least to have some bread on the table for her and her kids. Even though her income was very low, she payed tithes and even donated to three temple funds and a mission. Her faith and determination were unstoppable. This wonderful faithful woman walked for over 800 miles until her feet were cracking and bleeding, losing all her belongings, facing racism and prejudice, bringing along her relatives who joined the Church because of her, payed a faithful tithing and donated money to Church funds and programs even though she had a meager income. After her husband left the family in 1869, Jane in several occasions asked the First Presidency to be endowed and to be sealed, along with her children, to Walker Lewis, an African American Mormon Elder (I think he is the second, after Elijah Abel). Jane of course assumed that he would be eligible for temple ordinances since Walker was an Elder. However, her petitions were refused several times. After Isaac died in 1891 Jane decided to ask the First Presidency to be given the ordination of adoption so that she could be sealed to the Smiths as a child as Emma has offered in the past. Her request was once again refused. Instead, the First Presidency decided (after several requests) that she can be adopted into the family of Joseph Smith as a eternal servant and they did so. Jane was not allowed to be present in the ceremony. Joseph F. Smith acted as proxy for Joseph Smith, and Bathsheba W. Smith acted as proxy for Jane. It just breaks my heart to imagine the pain that this faithful Saint went through and her faith and desire to be sealed in the Temple just like anyone else to her loved ones. It also touches me to know how wonderful the Prophet Joseph was to her and her family . After that ordination of becoming a servant for eternity, Jane didn't seem satisfied (who can blame her?). She petitioned once again (1895) to the First Presidency to be sealed to the Smiths as a child but once again, was denied. She died in 1908 at age of 86. She was almost completely blind yet her faith and love for this Gospel are amazing examples in LDS history. I never met this sister, I am not African American yet I feel my heart so close to her and the struggles she went through. The work in the Temple has been done for her right after the lifting of the ban in 1978. Toward the end of her earthly journey she said:
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What you are describing is a very common complaint of spouses who married Aspies.
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I would strongly suggest before counseling, a medical evaluation to determine whether or not he is on the autism spectrum and take it from there. If he has Aspergers, you may be able to know exactly what to expect and how to handle/cope with your present challenges.
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another reason for not accepting the Gospel
Suzie replied to circusboy01's topic in LDS Gospel Discussion
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Lucky is an understatement!
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Backroads, I don't know why they call it morning sickness. It was ALL day sickness for me. Anyways, the only thing that helped me was to ensure that I ate a cracker or two ALL the time and ensuring I had something on my stomach even when I was not hungry and even when I was feeling so sick I couldn't stand the smell of food because I found that the emptier the stomach, the more sick I felt.
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All their basic needs are covered by the Church.
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Starting to care about missionary...
Suzie replied to ldswithgreeneyes's topic in Marriage and Relationship Advice
Of course I cannot speak about how you feel because only you know but I would like to say it's quite common for investigators (no matter their age) to have crushes on missionaries. If that's the case, it will pass. -
No one. 5 Shark Can't remember. 15 hours Some random person online about the "September 6" Unorthodox I have no friends on Facebook 5 5 First, thank the leprechaun and use most of the money for scientific research and help those who need it, no matter where they are.
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Is smoking marijuana viewed as a sin?
Suzie replied to SkinnersPinners's topic in General Discussion
Pot makes you highly spiritual. -
Yes, they were.
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For what I heard, the missionaries at the MTC were constantly asking David Archuleta for autographs and pictures.
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What can I say...after reading this thread, all I can say is where is Ashton Kutcher? Because I'm afraid you all have been punk'd. Just a feeling.
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Very glad to read she is back and very glad that she wasn't asked to disavow her book or stop writing.