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As it was stated, she has to be engaged (or married) to another man. Also, both of them must have current temple recommends before she can even request the paperwork for a cancellation. So the real question is how long it will take her to find that guy.

88:38 And unto every kingdom is given a law; and unto every law there are certain bounds also and conditions. I don't think this is terribly complex. We do know the bounds and conditions of this law in our current kingdom. Do we know the bounds and conditions in the next? I think it's rational and easy to conclude that both monogomy and polygamy are the law of the celestial kingdom. A great deal of sacrifice was made to establish polygamy during the restoration. My own interpretation of history is that it directly cost Joseph Smith his life.

There's a guy in my ward who seems quite young (37ish), his first 2 wives died and he's on his 3rd. Apparently his 3rd wife talked about it during relf soc. She was "best friends" with his second wife and now considers them to share a husband, along with the first wife. I have to admit that would have been an interesting relf soc meeting. Also, there's a guy at my work (lds) with 6 young kids, his wife died, he remarried. I nominated his second wife for sainthood.

I have a neighbor who is for some reason convinced that her husband will be a polygamist and that she will pick his other 3 wives. She is very serious and I always get a chuckle when she goes off on the subject and her husband's face turns red. I can only assume she's wanting 3 women she can boss around because she currently is the "alpha male" in the family. Perhaps she wants to increase her kingdom, or just a free babysitter.

I recall reading something which said that things "obey" the commands of God of their own will. Or in other words if God tells a proton to move a certain way it will move. Or on a larger scale, a mountain. I also think it is nonsense to suppose the laws of physics are violated by anyone. So the only solution is that we just dont know all the laws of physics and God does. Because he seems to do "miracles" which appear to violate the laws of physics. Also, I think God is co-eternal with physics. So therefore he didn't create the laws of physics. Leave it to mortals to demand that things have to have a beginning.

I've never heard of someone having a hard time during a honeymoon, but congrats on your success in getting through the hard times.

+1 kudos to those who say anti-depressants are a deal breaker. My SP said that "having a recommend is the lowest possible bar one should have for future spouse." No reason not to raise the bar above that. I don't think mental health is too high a bar to ask for.

It would take place in the dark of course. To be honest I've never had a fat wife, not sure I'm missing out on anything. I suppose some would argue otherwise.

I think that depends on your definition of loved and cherished. Considering 2/3 of the US is fat and 1/3 obese, it seems that people are "used to it" Personally I would love and cherish a fat wife but would not want to be seen in public with her.

This is what my dad told me, at least back in his day as SP, it could no be recommended. However, he could send a person to professional counseling, and they can do it.

Been there done that. Pretty much the same situation you describe. If you get the feelings things will be OK, and get better, that's because they will. Did for me. Perhaps not in the way I expected though.

I told the brethren this was the most correct of any post on earth. This may sound kind of negative, but, if you are living off your parents both of you need to avoid babies like the plague. And (since I am the judge of all things ) I think there is lack of maturity on both sides. It's immature to knowingly marry an immature person then act all surprised about it.

Agreed. I didn't hear about this until I was in my 30's. It was elaborated during a chapel session I attended in the denver temple by the temple pres. I later went and looked it up. There is a section on this in the institute manual for marriage, which is online. Fortunately for me my parents are both stellar Not sure if my kids are so fortunate.

To me that sounds like asking someone else to raise your kids then give them back when they are potty trained and past the teenage years. You basically miss out on a key experience in mortality. I have seen some wildly dysfunctional and disabled kids (10 years in primary) and the parents work through it, they don't hand them off and say geez they will be better kids in the next life I'll take them back then.

This implies that during that time there were husbands with more than one wife. Otherwise the statement is meaningless. For example, if I go to a car lot and and tell the salesman I want a car with only one steering wheel, that would be a waste of words. Unless there are cars with multiple steering wheels in existence, it's an absurd thing to say you don't want that.

My current in laws are the best kind, I haven't met them, and probably never will. My ex in laws a quite hilarious. Most of them think we are still good buddies, but one of them tries his utmost to offend me and even makes physical threats although he can't even walk up a flight of stairs. Turns out I "told on him" for beating his daughter (my ex as a child) in court as a reason for my kids not to spend time at his house, and that was supposed to be a family secret. Well it's on court record now and my ex didn't deny it, just said he's better now. So in conclusion it's better to never meet them, than to know your in-laws.

My mom has been married for 40 years. The other day she told me about my dad being unhealthy and how she was emotional because if he died she could not live without him. I gave her the same advice my brother gave me when my wife divorced me. He said "if I was you I would get a snowboarding pass". Well I did. So I told my mom to do the same when my dad dies lol. The point is you have to to be able to live and function without a spouse. Anybody could lose a spouse at any moment due to a car accident. Take an inventory of how dependent you are, and if you cannot live without a spouse, it's time to grow in some areas.

Part of being "ready" to have kids is wanting to have kids. Can you imagine someone getting baptized or married against their will? Same goes for kids, if you don't want them yet, by definition, you are not ready yet. Having kids early worked well for me, but if my own kids ask my advice, I would tell them to wait until they wanted kids to have kids.

For the sake of Pete, do not rush the kids. Take your BC religiously. If your in-laws want babies tell them to get busy and make their own.

I don't fit those categories. But I will suggest not having kids unless you want to. No need to seek consensus on that.

I would suggest that that the 50% of women who are giving birth out of wedlock have indeed found a man. Mary is the only exception I know of, and those rare few who pay a sperm bank. If they choose to fornicate with a guy who plays video games all day rather than take on family responsibilities, that is a choice. If they choose to procreate without marriage that is a choice. I don't think the victim card is applicable.

I have a good friend who I met in the mission field and we later became roomates in college. He is a marriage counselor now. He confided in me that he is waiting until his youngest turns 18 to divorce his wife. His youngest is 3. He also confided in me that because he is trapped in a sexless marriage, that makes him a better counselor. I asked him if divorcing his wife would dampen his career and he pretty much agreed it would.

"Right now she is pushing for another kid" I strongly recommend against this. My ex wife did this about 4 months before she filed for divorce. Can you imagine your own son/daughter being born to a single mother? Getting passed back and forth between parents for 18 years? I suppose she was serious, she got pregnant a few months after divorce, had to break up with her boyfriend when she found out another guy was the father. beware.

If you want to get married move. At the age of 35 I went to the mid-singles temple night in Denver. There were 5 men and 40 women. If anyone is up the creek without a paddle it's the women not the men. You don't have to move to Utah , just somewhere closer to it. I also suggest being single is a blast so don't rush it unless you really want to.

I don't think anyone wants my opinion, but here it is: kick them all out now. My parents conveniently kicked me out the morning after my high school graduation. Best way to go. Seems they had 7 kids and needed the space lol.