NeuroTypical
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12 hours ago, Carborendum said:
Two people in the same situation. Both are shown a better life and how to get there. One chose the better path. The other chose a path of death. We simply can't do anything to help her.
Glad to hear about the boy, sad to hear about the girl. She may leave this world early. She may not, but spend her mortal probation in the agony that can come from making bad choices. She may end up suffering more than one might think she deserves. For example, such folks are prime targets for getting kidnapped and sex trafficked. Girls with no healthy support system and maybe self-esteem or mental issues, have big red targets on their backs.
Your job is the same for both of them. Show 'em love in whatever appropriate ways you can. If it all goes south for the girl and she finally decides enough is enough, you might be her escape plan. What's she gonna do, go back to her parents? But make sure you don't get taken advantage of or hustled. There's a difference between saving someone and enabling them, and good people often have a hard time telling the difference. Remember the scripture: You gotta be harmless as a dove, but you also gotta be wise as a serpent.
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6 hours ago, mikbone said:
Reviewing the Epic of Gilgamesh I couldn’t help but make comparisons to Adam and Eve and Noah’s flood.
There's a lot of flood stories out there in historical stories/oral tradition/fiction/records.
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...but what about second sign of the apocalypse?
The next periodical emergence of the 13-year and 17-year cicada broods is happening in 2024. The last time these insects co-emerged was in 1803, while Thomas Jefferson was president.
Periodical cicadas - Wikipedia
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It seems to me that every government, every nation, since the dawn of human history, is little more than a shared grouping of ideas and principles held or tolerated by folks. It further seems to me that there is no such thing as a government or nation where 100% of its citizens/subjects/slaves/etc agree on those ideas and principles. There are always naysayers, opposition, even downright defiance and rebellion. Human geopolitical history is little more than a study in nations reforming themselves from within, when they're not being changed/taken over/destroyed from without.
Yeah, it's a little concerning when states start tinkering with sacred principles like the free voting process enshrined in our constitution. But it always has been that way. For all it's impact on our culture, Trump's dragging out the election only lasted less than a month longer than Gore's fighting against the 2000 election (December 13th vs January 7th). I don't remember the first time I heard one side or the other trying to manipulate the system in their favor, it's probably as long as our history of elections.
Let's see what SCOTUS 23-719 does with the case. (And just starting last week, we can get email updates now on individual SCOTUS cases. https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-719.html)
One real interesting thing about Colorado - it passed a law saying it doesn't matter who Coloradans vote for, CO's electoral votes will all go to the winner of the national popular vote. So if Trump gets the popular vote, CO votes for Trump, even though he might not actually be on the ballot.
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6 hours ago, Vort said:
In fact, other than atom-by-atom transmutation of platinum or iridium into gold inside a nuclear reactor (and what a shameful waste of platinum or iridium that would be!), there is no other way of creating gold than how it is created in dying stars.
Fusion reactor, or could it be done in a fission reactor? If the latter, Earth creates those naturally without humans, and maybe we got some gold that way?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor
(I understand a full 20% of this thread, which qualifies me to post here and sound smart.)
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In related news, Diversity Hire Claudine Gay is out.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67868280
It's totally related to this conversation, because she blamed her resignation on "racial animus", and the Harvard board is all mad about all the repugnant racist vitriol, and falling all over themselves to reaffirm their support. https://www.harvard.edu/blog/2024/01/02/statement-from-the-harvard-corporation-president-gay/
And in case you've been living under a rock, here's what's wrong with intersectionalism taking the place of traditional morality: https://rollcall.com/2023/12/13/transcript-what-harvard-mit-and-penn-presidents-said-at-antisemitism-hearing/
QuoteELISE STEFANIK: Dr. Gay does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard’s rules on bullying and harassment?
CLAUDINE GAY: The rules around bullying and harassment are quite specific. And if the context in which that language is used, amounts to bullying and harassment, then we take — we take action against it.
ELISE STEFANIK: Can you say yes to that question of, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard’s rules on bullying and harassment?
CLAUDINE GAY: Calling for the genocide of Jews is anti-Semitic.
ELISE STEFANIK: So yes?
CLAUDINE GAY: And that is anti-Semitic speech. And as I have said, when speech —
ELISE STEFANIK: And it’s a yes?
CLAUDINE GAY: Crosses into conduct —
ELISE STEFANIK: And it’s a yes. I’ve asked the witnesses —
CLAUDINE GAY: When speech crosses — when speech crosses into conduct, we take action.
ELISE STEFANIK: So, is that a yes? Is that a yes? The witness hasn’t answered, Madam Chair. Is that a yes? You cannot answer the question.
CLAUDINE GAY: When speech crosses into conduct —
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14 hours ago, Carborendum said:
I think you may have gotten an incorrect impression about what the purported prophecy meant.
I'll reiterate: I don't know if this passage of the Apocrypha is legit or not. So, no skin off my nose if it doesn't pan out. But if it does, that will certainly be rather interesting.
My buddy, back 4 years ago when he was thinking this prophecy pertained to Trump, said both these things to me, exactly, word for word. (It’s weird to hear someone seriously say “purported” out loud to you in a sentence.)
If it’s ok with y’all, Imma put a 4 year reminder in my calendar to come revisit this topic, and we’ll see what y’all think about it then. (Of course, if the prophecies come true and the world is a very different place with nobody having electricity or internet, I’ll have to find you in whatever burned out building you’re taking shelter in, and you can share my rusty can of dog food.)
And I must reiterate, I don’t think poorly of any of you for discussing this topic, no matter how energetically or zealously. I used to share the energy and passion, 40 years ago, for the various 1980’s versions of this prophecy. It’s just hard to watch so many of them come and go, without the predicted drama coming to pass.
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You meant federal government, right @Emmanuel Goldstein? Because otherwise...
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2 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:
I'm not sure government and taxes is sufficient to explain the fact that our house is worth 3 times the amount we originally bought it for 15ish years back though.
Not too far off. This website says the median home price in 2009 was 208,400, and it rose to $431k today - 106% higher.
Inflation can account for maybe 40% of that:
there was 1.6% inflation in 2010 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $101,640
there was 3.2% inflation in 2011 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $104,852
there was 2.1% inflation in 2012 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $107,022
there was 1.5% inflation in 2013 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $108,595
there was 1.6% inflation in 2014 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $110,355
there was 0.1% inflation in 2015 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $110,487
there was 1.3% inflation in 2016 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $111,879
there was 2.1% inflation in 2017 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $114,240
there was 1.9% inflation in 2018 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $116,422
there was 2.3% inflation in 2019 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $119,088
there was 1.4% inflation in 2020 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $120,708
there was 7.0% inflation in 2021 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $129,205
there was 6.5% inflation in 2022 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $137,539
there was 3.1% inflation in 2023 making a home worth $100k in 2009 now worth $141,858This website roughly agrees on housing inflation.
So, we're down to explaining why home prices are ~66% higher than 2009, after factoring inflation. I don't know why. Random guesses:
- We have 10% more Americans than 2009 (340 mil vs 308.5M), a lot of materials go into 31.5m homes. Do we have 10% higher production, or import 10% more stuff?
- I've also heard @zil2's rental vs ownership stuff. But ome ownership was 67.2% in '09, and 65.9% in April '23, according to this website. 1.3% isn't really the end of the world, especially since that rate has bounced around since the '60's.
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I totally get it @zil2. But I'm still willing to place the bet. The capacity of folks to come up with a way of adding 13+8, or 12+9, will put 'em solidly into the realm of looking at the next president. There'll be 2 errors thought about and talked about. First 12+8=19, second will be failing to understand somehow that it was supposed to be 13+8 or 12+9 all along.
I love a good conspiracy or end-times prophecy. I believe lots of them. But when I'm at my tinfoil-hat-wearing meetings, I find myself surrounded by people who eat/live/breathe such things, when they should at least order a side of common sense. To those folks, there's no such thing as a failed conspiracy, just erroneous interpretations.
(And I don't mean anyone in this thread. Y'all got more common sense than I do.)
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14 hours ago, person0 said:
I am curious to see if Biden doesn't finish his term and it gives further credence to the continuation of the theory. That said, I was under the impression that he had abandoned his theory, but it appears that he made another video as recently as 4 weeks ago. 🤔🤷♂️
I continue to be amazed that I was having this conversation 4 years ago, just about Trump and not Biden. My buddy was speculating about Trump not finishing his term, and that's how we'd know the theory had merit.
Anyone want to bet that we can skip forward 8 years, and we'll be having this exact same thread, with the exact same posts being made, with the only change being the current president in 2031 being named instead of Biden?
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Ok @old, I'm calling it. We've let you have a good 6 pages of venting your issues about your ward and it's members, and your leadership. I'll go ahead and close this thread now, I think everyone has had ample opportunity to weigh in, not only on the thread topic, but also your personal story. Again, I'm not judging here, but I will take the opportunity to remind everyone of site rule #1, which everyone agreed to in order to post here:
Quote1. Do not post, upload, or otherwise submit anything to the site that is derogatory towards The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its teachings, or its leaders.
If you feel like you still need a platform from which to voice your grievances anonymously and publicly, I can forward you to mormondialogue.org, which has no such rule. But consider yourself put on notice, we're done with the bishop and SP bashing, and the theology and doctrine 2nd guessing.
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20 hours ago, old said:
On the way home, she received an unsolicited text from the YW councilor who had attended that evening telling my wife she was:
"the devil in sheep's clothing"
"makes her want to vomit"
"the only problem in her life for the last 9 months"
"ruined a special place for our daughter"
"if we don't like the doctrine they are teaching she should find another church" (my wife had brought up a concern to the YW President about the YW wearing booty shorts & gym shorts to YW activities).
I simply don’t have enough information to make any sort of a righteous judgment here. This claim screams out, literally begs, for the other side to come and present their case.
It’s a pity we can’t summon people to the court of thirdhour to answer accusations leveled against them. The folks in the story would either have a good defense, or they wouldn’t. And I have no way of knowing one way or the other which is correct.
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9 hours ago, JohnsonJones said:
Aren't you a solid UofU fan?
This is the type of comment I would expect from one.
Nothing wrong with being a UofU fan, but I would think all UofU fans would have a rather low opinion of the Y.
Hm. Do you have a low opinion of UofU folks in general, or do you have a low opinion of anyone who's going to be a fan of any university? I'm a UofU fan, but all my smack talking about BYU is done lightheartedly, restricted to good-natured sports competition festivity.
I mean, I graduated from the U, but I've had a mostly positive opinion of the Y for as long as I've had an opinion. Back in my college days, my BYU buddy and I would 'crash' each other's campuses every now and then and sit in on each other's classes, just to get a taste. We offered/urged our kiddos to look into attending BYU as their college of choice. My wife is currently doing things through BYU pathways. Do I somehow surprise you, JJ?
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3 hours ago, old said:
I think if this type of response had been the response given to myself and my family (wife + 5 kids) it is possible that we would still be attending LDS.
Do I understand correctly that, because you see the LDS church becoming more accepting/friendly of this stuff, that you and your entire family stopped going to church?
I'm interested - do you folks figure the restored Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord's church, led by Him and His Prophets? Or do you figure something else?
(I've made a bit of a study over the decades on why folks lose their testimonies, and if y'all lost yours over this issue, it'll be the first time I've encountered such a story.)
20 hours ago, old said:I feel more sadness that this is where our society and where LDS culture is at than anything. Sexual/Romantic desire for the same-sex appears to be acceptable in LDS culture. The only thing prohibited appears to be same-sex sexual activities. I can not see how acceptance of that won't be far behind.
In related news: https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/vatican-issues-guidelines-for-same-sex-blessings-d3951c1d?mod=hp_lead_pos4 [bolding mine]:
QuoteThe Vatican on Monday published guidelines for priests blessing same-sex relationships, permitting such ceremonies but stressing that they must not imply that the unions are the equivalent of heterosexual marriage.
The eight-page document from the Vatican’s doctrinal office confirms and elaborates on a letter by Pope Francis released in October, which ended the Vatican’s ban on blessing same-sex couples. The shift is the latest sign of the Catholic Church’s greater openness to LGBTQ people under Pope Francis and one that is likely to further disturb conservatives.
Catholic priests in some countries, such as Germany, were flouting the ban and calling for change. The pope’s letter and Monday’s guidelines supersede a 2021 Vatican statement that prohibited blessings for gay couples on the grounds that God “cannot bless sin.”
Catholic clergy may “join in the prayer of those persons who, although in a union that cannot be compared in any way to a marriage, desire to entrust themselves to the Lord and his mercy, to invoke his help, and to be guided to a greater understanding of his plan of love and of truth,” said the document, signed by Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez, head of the doctrinal office.
11 years ago, I was arguing with an atheist online buddy about same sex marriage in my church. He figured it was only a matter of time, as the practice was on the path to universal cultural acceptance. In his mind, every organization must change to keep growth a possibility, so he was certain eventually we'd have some sort of revelation-or-other formalizing the practice - within 30 years. I bet him no it wouldn't, and the loser has to put on a pink tutu and sing "I'm a little teapot".
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We've had one sign of the apocalypse, yes...
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Somewhere near Vernal is a mountain that sees some sort of massive bug activity just about every year. For whatever reason, my in-laws like visiting there to "see the bugs". So we drive up the mountain for 30 minutes with the radio turned up loud so we can't hear the crackle-squish as we drive over them. Then we get out of the car and watch the entire landscape move for 5 minutes. Then I nope out early and drive back down, with the radio even louder, because everything we squished is now surrounded by 10 bugs eating the squished one, so we're running over 10X what we were before.
I guess they weren't cicadas or crickets, because other than the squish and the sound of the wind, it was totally silent. That made it even more freaky - couldn't even hear any scuttling noises.
[shudder]