Bini Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 Rewatched Captain America: The Winter Soldier and only have one question. Who is Black Widow? Who is Natasha Romanoff? Throughout a couple Marvel movies it is emphasised that the spy is a woman of many secrets with a mysterious dark past, which, she is always in fear of being revealed. Other than the Marvel movies, I don't know much about its universe or the superheroes and villains within it, and I know less about the comics. Even the wiki on her went over my head, ha. So in a simple breakdown, what is Black Widow's background and story? Any Marvel/comic experts? Quote
Guest Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 Who is Black Widow? My sister-in-law? (Was that outloud?) Quote
Bini Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Posted March 22, 2015 My sister-in-law? (Was that outloud?) Okay I feel that way about a certain person, too... Palerider 1 Quote
char713 Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 I have a feeling she's going to have a lot of her backstory included in the plot of "Age of Ultron." I did a lot of the same kind of research, she seems incredibly complicated. But that seems to happen an awful lot with most comic book characters. The authors have to keep their most popular characters going, keep reinventing them, keep having them meet up with and fight all the other popular characters, and it creates some really complex (though not always consistent) character histories. Quote
Latter Days Guy Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_%28Natalia_Romanova%29 Quote
sxfritz Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 I thought Natasha Romanoff was the lady villain on the Rocky and Bullwinkle show. :) Palerider, char713, Vort and 2 others 5 Quote
The Folk Prophet Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) What, do you not get wikipedia in your part of the world? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_(Natalia_Romanova) (hehe...just noticed Latter Days Guy beat me to it. But he didn't include the snarky question...so....) Edited March 23, 2015 by The Folk Prophet Latter Days Guy 1 Quote
char713 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 Even the wiki on her went over my head, ha. I think she's hoping for a more concise explanation. I wouldn't mind hearing it myself. Just_A_Guy and Bini 2 Quote
rlfrye Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 I have no clue,but given the trouble I have just figuring out my wife,I guess me not having a clue is not all that suprising,I will admit my first thought was my first wife though, Thanks alot, I usually dont give her a second thought,lol. Quote
estradling75 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 Rewatched Captain America: The Winter Soldier and only have one question. Who is Black Widow? Who is Natasha Romanoff? Throughout a couple Marvel movies it is emphasised that the spy is a woman of many secrets with a mysterious dark past, which, she is always in fear of being revealed. Other than the Marvel movies, I don't know much about its universe or the superheroes and villains within it, and I know less about the comics. Even the wiki on her went over my head, ha. So in a simple breakdown, what is Black Widow's background and story? Any Marvel/comic experts? The simple answer is that for the Marvel Cinematic Universe (AKA the Movies and TV shows) we do not know yet. Comic book characters are constantly being re imagined and re done with slight tweaks. The MCU is continuing this tradition by picking and choosing which story lines are being used and which are not. Until its revealed we can only guess what they are reusing and what they are creating fresh. Now in the agent Carter TV show they did show a Russian Spy training camp for female spys. The one graduate (that we are aware of) seemed incredibly effective. This has many thinking that the whole whole Russian "Black Widow Spy Ops" and "Red Room" story lines are in play. Bini 1 Quote
Palerider Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 I thought Natasha Romanoff was the lady villain on the Rocky and Bullwinkle show. :)When you mention that show it just shows our age for those of us who remember it. Lol mirkwood 1 Quote
Palerider Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 My sister-in-law? (Was that outloud?)Makes me wonder if most of us have a sister in law like that. :) Quote
NeuroTypical Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 So in a simple breakdown, what is Black Widow's background and story? Any Marvel/comic experts? Did anyone else watch the mini-series Agent Carter? It went into a little detail about the place where Romanoff was trained. Quote
Blackmarch Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 dunno. i've stopped following marvel for some time now. all their stuff just gets so dismal. Quote
Blackmarch Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 char713, The Folk Prophet and Magus 3 Quote
Guest Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 She has unnaturally huge bosoms for her tiny frame. I am shocked. Quote
estradling75 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 She has unnaturally huge bosoms for her tiny frame. I am shocked. It is a secondary superpower that females get... Bini, Palerider and Blackmarch 3 Quote
Blackmarch Posted March 23, 2015 Report Posted March 23, 2015 moreso with modern reimaginings of female characters..... but at least not on the anime scale of things >.< Quote
Magus Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Spy assets. Edited March 24, 2015 by Magus Quote
estradling75 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 Spy assets. In the Black Widow's case that it probably more true then not. Consider what her namesake is best known for... Then realize that the most likely history of her professional career is gaining the trust of men, learning their secrets and then destroying them. Even after she turns to the side of the Good guys you can still see parts of this training (Her interrogation of Loki comes to mind) Now if we have an organization creating these "Black Widows" then it in not hard to see physical appearance as being part of what they look for and what they would be willing to alter to make it what they need. Therefore it seems like the Black Widow is one of the few comic book females that really has the background to justify looking like an airbrushed, photo shopped, underwear model. Of course she is just one of the many comic book female who look this way. beefche and Bini 2 Quote
Bini Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Posted March 24, 2015 Did anyone else watch the mini-series Agent Carter? It went into a little detail about the place where Romanoff was trained. I have not! Quote
char713 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 I watched the mini-series with my husband. We got a big kick out of some things about the production value, and he absolutely could not accept that the mother in Cinderella was played by the same person. Good series. I didn't realize at the time that the Russian spy training orphanage thingy was significant, but I see it now. Blackmarch 1 Quote
estradling75 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 I have not! I watched it on Hulu... It was a 8 episode run that played during the Marvel's Agents of Shield mid season break Quote
David13 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Posted March 24, 2015 Yes, I remember Moose and Squirrel. And Boris Badenov and Natasha Fatale. I did not know this Black Widow existed. rifryeYou can check the general black widow idea. You are alive. Therefore ...dc Blackmarch 1 Quote
Magus Posted March 25, 2015 Report Posted March 25, 2015 In the Black Widow's case that it probably more true then not. Consider what her namesake is best known for... Then realize that the most likely history of her professional career is gaining the trust of men, learning their secrets and then destroying them. Even after she turns to the side of the Good guys you can still see parts of this training (Her interrogation of Loki comes to mind) Now if we have an organization creating these "Black Widows" then it in not hard to see physical appearance as being part of what they look for and what they would be willing to alter to make it what they need. Therefore it seems like the Black Widow is one of the few comic book females that really has the background to justify looking like an airbrushed, photo shopped, underwear model. Of course she is just one of the many comic book female who look this way. Agreed. I'd like to try and justify all the provocative drawings of comic book damsels as sort of an artistic expression of their bodies as sort of "super bodies" that aesthetically parallels their roles as super-heroes, and is therefore a "celebration of the human form in all its glory,"....and I could probably make a half-way decent case that might even have some validity to it.... ....but yeah the rest of it is just that sex sells. But Black Widow is nothing compared to like Witchblade or Vampirella. And in most comics, artists will often sometimes draw a pin-up style version of characters. But to be fair, the guys are pretty big hulking masses of sex appeal as well, and probably aren't at all uneasy on the eyes for many female readers. Quote
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