Vort Posted July 7, 2018 Report Posted July 7, 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/12/07/alan-dershowitzs-new-reality-tweeted-by-trump-shunned-by-liberal-friends/?utm_term=.d266b77f70d9 Everyone surprised at this news needs to understand that the bowels of American Liberal mercy isn't where your head belongs. mirkwood 1 Quote
Overwatch Posted July 7, 2018 Report Posted July 7, 2018 Cool. I didn't vote for Trump but I am not stupid. He is actually getting stuff done. I like that he is wanting to make things better with the UN as far as us not footing most of the bill. Once we stop giving all that money or if we pull out entirely from the UN then the other countries will have to spend their own money on defense and their "free" healthcare is going away. I mean they are still going bankrupt right now and the high earners are getting upset with their 60% tax fees. Lol. Trump just puts people off because he says things so horribly, definitely not putting any silk to soften the reality of things. Also his team's stupid ideas at times, like taking illegal border hoppers children. Which I think would have been a perfect time to end abortion country wide, since you know, people love the children so much. To another point, I know the ramble, I don't care if he slept with that Clifford lady before the presidency. It is what he is doing now that I care about. I think he was the best choice after all since things seem to be looking up for the US. I voted for Romney both times during the last Presidency, even though I am not a Republican, I thought it would be good to have a Mormon as President but didn't happen. I guess we'll keep watching oh and that part about Mr. Dershowitz not getting invited over for dinner kind of made me laugh. I had some friends over for dinner the other day and remembered I hate hosting. I think I just like the idea of get togethers/parties not actually doing them lol Quote
mirkwood Posted July 8, 2018 Report Posted July 8, 2018 The left is eating their own. This is my shocked face. Vort 1 Quote
askandanswer Posted July 8, 2018 Report Posted July 8, 2018 I guess Mr Dershowitz is now feeling left... out Midwest LDS, Overwatch and Vort 3 Quote
bytebear Posted July 8, 2018 Report Posted July 8, 2018 This just shows the total bias of the media. Dershowitzs is saying exactly what every journalist should be saying. The anti-Trump rhetoric is a joke, and the media is just another player in it, when they should be calling it out for what it is. If we had honesty, they would all chant in unison how ignorant and stupid these things are. And maybe gain some respect again for the office of the presidency, and maybe find some way to accept half of America who supported Trump in the election as anything other than little Nazis. Seriously. Vort 1 Quote
Vort Posted July 8, 2018 Author Report Posted July 8, 2018 "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it," said no one on the modern American Left ever. At least, no one who gets to keep his Kool Kid Kard. mirkwood 1 Quote
mikegriffith Posted July 8, 2018 Report Posted July 8, 2018 I just dearly hope that Glen Beck's fans learned a valuable lesson: never trust Beck's judgment on presidential candidates again. Beck's attacks on Trump during the campaign were so outrageous that they would have been funny if they had not been so serious and misleading. We can all thank our lucky stars that more people did not make the misguided decision to vote for Gary Johnson or Evan McMullin. If they had, we would have President Hillary and a 5-4 liberal majority on the Supreme Court--and would be facing a 6-3 liberal majority in the near future. Quote
unixknight Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) On 7/8/2018 at 9:09 AM, mikegriffith said: I just dearly hope that Glen Beck's fans learned a valuable lesson: never trust Beck's judgment on presidential candidates again. Beck's attacks on Trump during the campaign were so outrageous that they would have been funny if they had not been so serious and misleading. We can all thank our lucky stars that more people did not make the misguided decision to vote for Gary Johnson or Evan McMullin. If they had, we would have President Hillary and a 5-4 liberal majority on the Supreme Court--and would be facing a 6-3 liberal majority in the near future. Yeah I was a McMullin voter... but not again. As soon as the election was over he was right there on CNN on the anti-Trump train. Sellout. I get people who are never Trumpers, but to get in bed with CNN to help them with their narrative... no. McMullin doesn't get my vote again. Edited July 9, 2018 by unixknight Just_A_Guy and mirkwood 2 Quote
Vort Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Posted July 9, 2018 Count me as another former never-Trumper who just might seriously consider voting for him in 2020. I find him pretty much as personally repugnant as ever, but: (1) Outside of his childish, inflammatory rhetoric and knack for alienating people and burning bridges, he has actually made real progress in accomplishing his stated goals; and, (2) the popular media and the Hollywood Left despise him like I have never seen them despise anyone. Pedophiles in their midst are treated with far more honor and compassion than is afforded the POTUS. When Satan hates someone so badly, that tells me that maybe I should consider supporting him. I voted for Gary Johnson, by far my least enthusiastic US presidential vote that I have ever cast. Given what Trump has done so far (and ignoring for the moment the fact that my one vote is literally meaningless), if I had it to do over again, I might well vote for Trump. NeuroTypical, prisonchaplain and mirkwood 2 1 Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Vort said: I voted for Gary Johnson @Vort, you've been influenced by your younger, better looking and smarter friend @MormonGator. Quote
NeuroTypical Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) On 7/8/2018 at 7:09 AM, mikegriffith said: We can all thank our lucky stars that more people did not make the misguided decision to vote for Gary Johnson or Evan McMullin. If they had, we would have President Hillary and a 5-4 liberal majority on the Supreme Court--and would be facing a 6-3 liberal majority in the near future. I cast my conservative vote for Gary Johnson, but first, I found a liberal facebook buddy and we made a pact to both vote for Johnson, so that neither of us were improving the chances of the other side's candidate. Then Trump won, and it's sort of like having the best of both worlds. I can giggle and grin when he does something I like, and I can say "hey didn't vote for the guy" when he doesn't. I also have "Righteous as heck" bragging rights* because I jumped the Trump ship shortly before the cat-themed audio broke the news. I was never a never-Trumper, but I just found him too personally repugnant to vote for. This evening, if we get Gorsuch 2 in the news, I'll giggle much, and loudly. Every paycheck, I giggle loudly. Hearing the DNC needed to borrow millions recently, has me giggling loudly. Lowest percentage of unemployed African Americans in US history, has me giggling loudly. Reading pres. Dood's tweets, where he is literally saying what I often interpret politicians to be saying when I read between the lines, often brings a chuckle. This is a chart I keep of our retirement savings, and I giggle loudly. * Modesty bragging rights, not so much. Edited July 9, 2018 by NeuroTypical Vort, mirkwood and unixknight 3 Quote
Vort Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Vort said: Count me as another former never-Trumper To clarify, I was never really a "never-Trumper", but more of a "how the heck could any reasonable person cast a vote for this bozo?"-er. So I have not actually changed from never-Trump to seriously-consider-Trump, but my change has been almost as dramatic. Quote
mirkwood Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, unixknight said: Yeah I was a McMullin voter... but not again. As soon as the election was over he was right there on CNN on the anti-Trump train. Sellout. I get people who are never Trumpers, but to get in bed with CNN to help them with their narrative... no. McMullin doesn't get my vote again. I still think McMullin was a Democrat plant to try and split the vote. Quote
mirkwood Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 I voted for Trump because the thought of Hillary selecting Supreme Court justices terrified me in an Ether 8 kind of way. NeuroTypical, prisonchaplain and unixknight 2 1 Quote
unixknight Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, mirkwood said: I still think McMullin was a Democrat plant to try and split the vote. I won't try to rule that out. mirkwood 1 Quote
Guest MormonGator Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, mirkwood said: I still think McMullin was a Democrat plant to try and split the vote. Yup. Quote
bytebear Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 Trump wasn't my first choice, but he wasn't my last. Hillary was my last choice, and frankly, I would have voted for an old shoe if I knew it meant she wouldn't win. That said, reading up on his style and methodology via the book Winning Bigly by Scott Adams, put a lot of things into perspective. The lying media, the way he overshoots a goal, how he uses purposeful false facts to ensure the media "corrects" him and end up spreading the actual figures. Much of it is psychological, and it works, clearly. The media and the left are eating their own as to why their strategy of carpet bombing anti-Trump isn't working. And, frankly, it's glorious to watch. I just hope they implode soon so we can have true journalism again. prisonchaplain and NeuroTypical 2 Quote
NeuroTypical Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 Yep - most media savvy pres I think we've had since Reagan. prisonchaplain and mirkwood 1 1 Quote
Vort Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Posted July 9, 2018 45 minutes ago, bytebear said: I just hope they implode soon so we can have true journalism again. This presupposes that we had true (that is, accurate and unbiased) journalism at some point in the fairly recent past. Not sure I believe that. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 3 hours ago, mirkwood said: I voted for Trump because the thought of Hillary selecting Supreme Court justices terrified me in an Ether 8 kind of way. Canada's supreme court recently set in stone the doctrine that bias against LGBT outweighs religious discrimination. It upheld BC and Nova Scotia's refusal to allow Trinity Western University's law school graduates to practice in their provinces. The reasoning was that anyone who would go to a school that covenants against sex outside of heterosexual marriage would discriminate. While recognizing the burden their decision placed on religious practice, the court determined that allowing discrimination against sexual orientation was worse. Had HRC been elected, we'd be marching to that same tune. mirkwood 1 Quote
prisonchaplain Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Vort said: This presupposes that we had true (that is, accurate and unbiased) journalism at some point in the fairly recent past. Not sure I believe that. In the 1980s I thought the press was biased and wondered what would happen if they quit pretending. NOW we know. It wasn't great before, but I would settle for them going back to pretending to be objective. Besides, there's still Wall Street Journal, Washington Times, Drudge Report, Townhall.com, Washington Examiner, New York Post, and for the hard-driving crown, Human Events. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 I almost forgot Newsmax.com and Worldnetdaily. Too bad we mostly have to choose our bias, rather than being able to look to an objective mainstream source. Quote
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