Meridian of time

[Ruben]

The scriptures say that Christ came in the meridian of time, that is, 4000 years after creation. If the earth is to last 7000 years, shouldn't the meridian of time be 3500 from creation?

[CV75]

4 hours ago, Ruben said:

The scriptures say that Christ came in the meridian of time, that is, 4000 years after creation. If the earth is to last 7000 years, shouldn't the meridian of time be 3500 from creation?

I know "meridian" sounds like "half" but it is a circular path on a sphere. If this earth's time is spherical, it has no center really, but the time path in which the Lord appears is a predesignated locale, which by our reckoning is such-and-such a date. The Lord's arrival is the reference point for all things taking place on that sphere. As in Chinese medicine, He is the pathway from and along which all light, spiritual and temporal, flows.

[Carborendum]

4 hours ago, Ruben said:

The scriptures say that Christ came in the meridian of time, that is, 4000 years after creation. If the earth is to last 7000 years, shouldn't the meridian of time be 3500 from creation?

What on earth are you using for an interface?  I've never seen a post go over the side like this.

[zil2]

6 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

What on earth are you using for an interface?  I've never seen a post go over the side like this.

He somehow triggered the "code" feature, which displays text in a monospace font and won't wrap lines (makes it easier to read code).  The editor button for that isn't displayed, so I assume it was either in the nature of what he pasted or triggered by keystrokes, or he copied it from another forum where the code interface is functioning.

 

[Carborendum]

1 minute ago, zil2 said:

He somehow triggered the "code" feature, which displays text in a monospace font and won't wrap lines (makes it easier to read code).  The editor button for that isn't displayed, so I assume it was either in the nature of what he pasted or triggered by keystrokes, or he copied it from another forum where the code interface is functioning.

I.T. might want to get on that.  I suspect that might cause some security issues.

[zil2]

5 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

I.T. might want to get on that.  I suspect that might cause some security issues.

It won't.  It's a feature of forum software so that people who want to discuss programming problems can.  It's not a way to introduce functional code into the server or anything - it's a perfectly legit feature.  Given that ThirdHour isn't about software development, I assume they chose to hide that button in the editor toolbar, but the editor itself would know how to process it.

Makes me wonder if @Ruben is copying and pasting his questions - a bad sign, if so...

[zil2]

On 11/22/2024 at 4:28 AM, Ruben said:

meridian of time

"Meridian" has more than one meaning.  Check out this article on AskGramps.org.  (PS: Only modern man is concerned with tracking dates and times to the millisecond.  Prior to industrialization, it wasn't so unusual for entire seasons (like winter) to basically be ignored as far as tracking days, let alone hours...)

Edited November 24, 2024 by zil2

[mikbone]

Meridian dosent mean the median mode or mean.  Also, are we counting the time in the Garden of Eden and the Millennium?  

No one knows the hour.  Except the Father.

 

[Traveler]

@Ruben's  question is a good one and, in a way, can be answered only in part with a deep dive into “textual criticism”.  The English word of meridian was first used around the 14^th century.  In essence it meant noon day.  Some interpret this to mean midday, but it really meant when the sun was at its apex.   Another problem is that this is a modern era, and the meaning of words have evolved plus we are trying to understand this through a translation.

What we do not know is if it is the meridian of time because it was when Christ came or if Christ came because it was a time of significant meaning.   I am inclined to think it is both – that the two are inseparably connected.  In essence, I believe, it marks a tidal change in covenants and covenant meaning, in that prior to his coming all covenants were based on what he would do in atoning for the fall and the sins of mankind.  Afterwords all covenants are based on what he did to atone for the fall and the sins of mankind.

 

The Traveler

[Vort]

14 hours ago, Ruben said:

the meridian of time

The English word "meridian" is borrowed direcly from the old French meridien "midday", which comes from the Latin word meridianum "noon". By definition (original definition, not 21st-century American "daylight saving time" definition), noon is when the sun is at its zenith. In other words, noon is the "high point" of the day. Similarly, "the meridian of time" would be the "high point" of the mortal probation, which naturally would be when the Son arose and brought Light to the world. Noon takes place at around the middle of the day, as the mortal probation of the Son of God took place around the middle of the time of mortal probation. But any idea that we can somehow mathematically derive the coming of the Son of Man from the idea is useless. That is not how God works.

Edited November 23, 2024 by Vort

[Ruben]

Carborendum asks:

What on earth are you using for an interface?  I've never seen a post go over the side like this.

I wrote the text in my editor and then copied and pasted it.

Thats all

Sorry

 

[HaggisShuu]

I always thought meridian meant a "parting" which is why we have Ante Meridian (AM) and Post Meridian (PM) the day is parted into 2. 
 

It's why we have BC and AD, the Era before Christ and the Era after. 
 

I may be totally wrong though. 
 

 

Edited November 23, 2024 by HaggisShuu

[Carborendum]

5 hours ago, Ruben said:

Carborendum asks:

What on earth are you using for an interface?  I've never seen a post go over the side like this.

I wrote the text in my editor and then copied and pasted it.

Thats all

Sorry

 

No harm done.  I was just curious.  It was simply something I'd never seen.

[laronius]

On 11/22/2024 at 4:28 AM, Ruben said:

The scriptures say that Christ came in the meridian of time, that is, 4000 years after creation. If the earth is to last 7000 years, shouldn't the meridian of time be 3500 from creation?

You might want to read chapter 6 of Jesus the Christ by Talmage. It's called Meridian of Time and gives his views on the matter.

[Ruben]

3 hours ago, laronius said:

You might want to read chapter 6 of Jesus the Christ by Talmage. It's called Meridian of Time and gives his views on the matter.

I recently read the chapter where Talmage talks about this topic but it did not satisfy my curiosity.
He covers the topic but not in as much depth as I would like.