Midwest LDS

I love the books, and have giggled and groaned at the past ham-fisted attempts to make movies out of them.
Got my fingers crossed that Dune 2020 will do better.  It shows promise.

I hadn't thought to connect this current issue with the gospel, but you make an excellent point. Temple ordinances, scripture, even visions both modern and ancient make heavy use of symbolism. They teach lessons far beyond the actual physical symbol used (Lehi's great and spacious building, Jacob's ladder etc.) I had a lot more visceral negative reaction to New York announcing it would remove that statue of Teddy Roosevelt, than I would have someone just speaking ill of him because of what the symbolism of that act represents.

I agree. This stuff is really starting to smack of the Chinese Cultural revolution in the late 60's. Everything from the past torn down by mobs that are acting with the approval of the government. As a historian, it turns my stomach, but I agree there is an overriding political will behind the madness.

I'm all accepted, and in a little less than 2 weeks, I get shot full of murder hornet GMO RFID juice.
This is a "messenger RNA" vaccine, which means it doesn't actually have any COVID virus in it, either weakened or dead.  It's just an outer-spacey engineered RNA string that will trick my immune system into thinking there's a virus afoot, and it reacts as if it were true.
Cool video on the science behind it:
 

1) Christ was always the chosen Son of God. There was no “before” then. 
2)  A person could easily assume as much  
3) I echo estradling75 ‘S well worded answer 

For as much as we know about the pre-existence there is more we do not know.
Many of your question about exact details we do not know.
However lets clarify come misunderstandings you do have.  I make all kinds of plans... and I usually find out very quickly that they will not work.  While we are commonly told that Satan had a plan.. everything we seen and learn at are taught tells us his plan would not work.  Thus Satan has a plan but there is every indication that his "promises" were lies.
For those that followed him everything points to them having full Light and Truth and choosing to embrace and side with Darkness and Lies.  Why does anyone one do that?.. I have no idea but people do all the time. 
Finally angels are not a different type or class in the Restored Gospel theology.  They are simply people like us but in a Pre-Mortal or Post Mortal state, who have an assignment to do something among mortals.
 

Do you remember the first movie version of The Hobbit?
If you think I'm talking about the Bass-Rankin animated version, think again. Not many people know this, but the first movie adaptation came out in 1967, a full 10 years before the Bass-Rankin movie!
Wikipedia gives us the story behind it: it seems that producer William L. Snyder had bought the film rights in 1964, but was unable to find the collaborators he needed to make the movie. With the rights about to expire, he needed to (i) make the movie and (ii) have people pay to see it, or else the rights would revert to Tolkien
So he commissioned animator Gene Deitch (who had worked him on Popeye and Tom and Jerry) to make The Hobbit as a cartoon short. Having flung the thing together as cheaply and nastily as he could, he charged his audience a dime each to see the it (dimes, by the way, that he had given them beforehand) so that they could honestly say they had "paid to see the movie".
Thanks to this, Snyder kept the movie rights, which he was then able to sell back to J.R.R. Tolkien for $100,000.
And thanks to YouTube, we can see this wonderful movie in it's full 12-minutes of glory! Enjoy!
P.S. I was so fascinated I did some more web searching. I don't know how reliable this is, but I've read the movie cost $50 to make. I don't believe it - even the puerile Super 8 animations my friends and I used to make at school - which didn't even have sound (let alone music) - couldn't have cost much less if you factored everything in.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I follow the Prophet.  I hope nothing I've posted suggests otherwise.  Even though our Stake said it is requested, not required, that we wear masks to Church, I'd wear one.  My personal thoughts on the topic, while contrary, are irrelevant.

I can see why you might be upset by that. I agreed with the sentiment of the post which is why I liked it. I can, and do, believe most people should wear masks. However, I don't like online cancel culture anymore than you do, so I think we were just looking at the post from different perspectives.

The big problem is getting those in the cities and those state governments that currently exist to accept such an idea.  In California, for some time now, there has been a push to create two or three separate states.  The reason are due to the problems that the democratic process has brought to many of the Californians that do not live in the Cities.  Currently, laws and regulations are generally decided upon by the majority of Californians, meaning those that are living in the cities.  The Rural Californians are largely left out of the process simply because they do not have the population size to overrule the populations of the cities.  This has created a great deal of hardship for those who are not in the areas of Los Angeles and San Francisco (and to a lesser degree, those who are not in the areas of San Diego or Sacramento). 
This is not just a matter of giving those cities their own states which is more specific, but just separating the more rural areas of California from those that are more urban, or separating various idealogical concerns from each other. 
The idea is that there would be a Northern California and a California.  Some proposals divide it more so that there is a Northern California, a California, and another State built from the Southern and Eastern Sections of California.  This means that though San Francisco might be part of the Northern California state, it is balanced out in political power by the number of Conservative votes in Northern California.  In the three state idea, it would mean that Eastern California actually gets to have a voice in the decisions of it's state government. 
California and the Federal government will not even agree to this idea of separating it into two or three states.  They lose to much economically and politically (in the minds of those who currently rule California).
Dividing it even further into City-States for Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Diego with the rest of California as it's own entity (or several entities) I see to be even harder to pursue, as the cities would lose control of water, and many of the economic resources it depends on in surviving others spots of the state (though San Francisco could probably survive on it's own, I think Los Angeles may have some difficulties).

Good one!
 
Check out my new response when someone wants to talk about COVID / Riots / Moral Decay - "Sorry, I am not really in the mood to talk about that this year. Let's try again next year."

To go back a bit, a one word question is easy to misunderstand.  To clear it up, you are asking how asymptomatic people can spread the virus.  Is that correct?
While that question of how the virus spreads doesn't seem to be specifically addressed in those articles, I imagine it's the same way symptomatic people do, through exhaled droplets that are then inhaled or otherwise brought into contact by another person.
Another thing to keep in mind is that asymptomatic is different from pre-symptomatic.  A person who has contracted Covid can be contagious days before they show symptoms.
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-1595_article
 

As the creator of this thread I vote to close it!  ✋  I am catching a whiff of dead horse stink. 

Shoulda worn that mask...
😂

Charity, folks.
People get to say stuff, even if you think it's misguided, dangerous, or deadly.
People get to say stuff, even if you think it's misguided, dangerous, or facist.
The mods are inches away from closing mask threads, if'n y'all can't remember site rules 3 & 4.
 

In Nevada, the governor started with asking.  He felt there were too many people who still weren't following the suggestions.  That's when he went with the mandate.
As for the bold, most articles I've read completely disagree.

Speaking for myself:
I do want to help my fellow man.  And that includes using my agency and judgement on how to best do so.  I work from home to reduce contact.  I wash my hands many many times a day to reduce spread.    Me wearing a mask in the privacy of my backyard isn't protecting anyone.  Me going out to a park where I'm always 10 ft away from people is part of my love for fellow man, but me wearing a mask isn't going to make anyone safer there.   
I want to help myself and other be safe and use my God-gifted agency to do so.  

I'm not a fan of blanket you-must-wear-a-mask-everywhere-ordinances, because that's NOT using my agency to protect people.  There are times that wearing a mask doesn't help anyone, and instead just makes things super hot and limits communication.  Trying to enforce something that doesn't make sense is picking the wrong battle.  

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Just checking the trigger level of the thread thus far.

I'm hoping to help her feel comfortable being in her backyard.

Your friend is wrong.  Private businesses absolutely have the right to mandate the use of masks.  Individuals like your friend are acting wrongfully.  Advocating for individual liberty and being obedient to the requests of a private organization are not mutually exclusive.  The statement he is making is that it is okay to ignore the rules of a private organization (which it isn't).  Individuals do not have the right to impose their beliefs on a private entity.  People like your friend lessen the efforts of those who respect private businesses and also advocate for individual liberty, and against government mandates.

As @Carborendum says, in the context of LDS theology “heaven” in this hymn is kind of a nuanced term.  Certainly William Phelps, who wrote the hymn in mid-1844, had no reason to believe Smith had done anything to merit lasting divine punishment; and the Bible itself gave good reason to believe something very pleasant was waiting for Smith beyond death’s door—see, e.g., Rev 14:13, John 15:18, 2 Tim 3:12, John 16:1-3.
Wilford Woodruff did have numerous visions/revelations of Joseph Smith after Smith’s death, as he recounted summarily in a discourse excerpted here.
As far as whether any hymns were sung about martyrs in the primitive Church:  no idea.  But Jesus, and the authors of the New Testament, had no problem saying “this martyr really was pretty darned awesome” (Matt 11:11; Rev 20:4), so I doubt they’d have gotten too worked up if some composer had set their words—or others of a similar tenor—to music.  

"heaven" here refers to "Paradise" rather than the Celestial Kingdom.  And we believe all the righteous Saints will ascend to Paradise after death and "partial judgment."  It is somewhat figurative.
As for the NT church.  I would have no idea about that.  Neither would you.
And thanks for yet another sock puppet, Jonah.  It seemed likely from the first post.  But after a few posts, it is certain.  You're going to have to stop being so schizophrenic.  First, you're Catholic.  Now Baptist?
@NeedleinA, @Vort
Mods?

At church today, only 2 adults did not wear masks. An older sister and a visiting 20 something brother. I was pretty surprised by the older sister not masking up. Almost every kid who could walk, wore a mask of some kind. In previous meetings according to reports from other members, at best maybe 10% of the congregation wore a mask as the high number and less than 1% as the low. The deacons did a great job passing the sacrament, leaning over the empty row in front of the member occupied rows to offer the bread and water so nobody else had to touch the tray handles. With the water, they had a second tray without the cup holder top on it so people could drop their used cups into it easily, without having to reach across or possibly touch the unused remaining water cups. I don't know where the plan for the passing method originated, but I was impressed regardless.  It was my first time back to church since mid March. It lasted about 40 minutes and included 1/3 of the ward membership, segregated alphabetically into three separate rotating meeting blocks. Three hymns including the sacrament song and one talk. It was one of the most memorable I have been a part of. After the meeting, we were asked to wipe down the wooden bench surfaces with provided sanitizer cloths in the pew where we sat.