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I'm sure many of you here, already know the answer. For the others this should put your quandary to an end. The Chicken came first. It was a creation of our Heavenly Father. Had He created the egg first. It stands to reason that He would have created Adam and Eve as new born infants, and the Garden of Eden as seedlings. Brother Ray

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Had He created the egg first. It stands to reason that He would have created Adam and Eve as new born infants, and the Garden of Eden as seedlings. Brother Ray

How do you know He didn't create them as infants?

One of my favourite books is Through a Glass Darkly by Jostein Gaarder, where an angel converses with a girl who is dying of cancer. One of the ideas they explore is that Adam and Eve were children, and that "The Fall" was associated with their becoming adults. It's a great read - though not (I suspect) intended to be taken too seriously.

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I'm sure many of you here, already know the answer. For the others this should put your quandary to an end. The Chicken came first. It was a creation of our Heavenly Father. Had He created the egg first. It stands to reason that He would have created Adam and Eve as new born infants, and the Garden of Eden as seedlings. Brother Ray

I've actually read a statistical analysis demonstrating that the egg came first. I'll see if I can find it.

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Your arguments for the chicken are all non sequitur arguments. They do not necessarily follow each other in an argument. There is a lot of assumption going on. Even if Adam and Eve were not infants when created, who is to say other animals weren't hatched or born in some fashion into infancy?

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As others have said, creation from an embryo is possible, perhaps even likely. Joseph F. Smith and the First Presidency had this to say, "True it is that the body of man enters upon its career as a tiny germ embryo, which becomes an infant, quickened at a certain stage by the spirit whose tabernacle it is, and the child, after being born, develops into a man. There is nothing in this, however, to indicate that the original man, the first of our race, began life as anything less than a man, or less than the human germ or embryo that becomes a man." (The Origin of Man, Improvement Era, Nov 1909)

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I've actually read a statistical analysis demonstrating that the egg came first. I'll see if I can find it.

I apologize. I found the article in my house. It concludes the chicken came first. I can't find the article in electronic version however. If I get motivated, I might scan the article if anyone is really interested.

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It's early in the morning and this topic has made me realize I'm hungry.

Okay back to topic.

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I apologize. I found the article in my house. It concludes the chicken came first. I can't find the article in electronic version however. If I get motivated, I might scan the article if anyone is really interested.

I have heard before that the chicken came first - though I don't suppose it was a "chicken" per se, or even a bird, but some very early kind of egg-laying fish (or whatever) that reptiles, mammals and birds ultimately evolved from.

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I can't spell mammal
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I'm sure many of you here, already know the answer. For the others this should put your quandary to an end. The Chicken came first. It was a creation of our Heavenly Father. Had He created the egg first. It stands to reason that He would have created Adam and Eve as new born infants, and the Garden of Eden as seedlings. Brother Ray

There were eggs being laid before there were chickens.

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A friend and I have been asking a lot of people this recently - people who work in the Protestant church. A friend of mine who is an Anglican Vicar and he said that the egg came first. Seeing that babies start off as 'eggs' it is only sensible to think that a chicken would start out as a new creation and be born into the world, as we all are.

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I believe that evolution played a part in creation (exactly how, I don't know) so at some point, what ever came before the chicken in the evolutionary system at somepoint layed an egg that was an 'official' chicken, so with that logic, the egg came first. And out of that egg was born the first chicken.

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How do you know He didn't create them as infants?

One of my favourite books is Through a Glass Darkly by Jostein Gaarder, where an angel converses with a girl who is dying of cancer. One of the ideas they explore is that Adam and Eve were children, and that "The Fall" was associated with their becoming adults. It's a great read - though not (I suspect) intended to be taken too seriously.

Where in Geneses does it say that Heavenly Father placed Adam and Eve in the Garden sf Eden as infants? In fact. Where in the entire Bible does it say this?

Isn't "Through a Glass Darkly" a work of fiction? Brother Ray.

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I've actually read a statistical analysis demonstrating that the egg came first. I'll see if I can find it.

Statistical analysis and the scriptures don't always jive. A statistical analysis would most likely say You can't get wine from a rock. You can't feed a large multitude with 7 loaves of bread, and fish, and you can't part a large body of water so people can pass through the center.

Brother Ray

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Your arguments for the chicken are all non sequitur arguments. They do not necessarily follow each other in an argument. There is a lot of assumption going on. Even if Adam and Eve were not infants when created, who is to say other animals weren't hatched or born in some fashion into infancy?

I'm sorry. But I don't think my arguments are non sequitur. Yes animals were born or hatched into infancy. They were born or hatched from the adult Animals that God placed on this earth. Just as Cain and Abel were born to Adam and Eve. Brother Ray

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As others have said, creation from an embryo is possible, perhaps even likely. Joseph F. Smith and the First Presidency had this to say, "True it is that the body of man enters upon its career as a tiny germ embryo, which becomes an infant, quickened at a certain stage by the spirit whose tabernacle it is, and the child, after being born, develops into a man. There is nothing in this, however, to indicate that the original man, the first of our race, began life as anything less than a man, or less than the human germ or embryo that becomes a man." (The Origin of Man, Improvement Era, Nov 1909)

We are told to ponder the scriptures. I'm going to have to ponder this before I can fully understand it. Brother Ray

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Speaking of eggs, did anyone see the latest Jimmy Kimmel travesty, where he asked parents to give awful Christmas gifts to their kids and record the reactions? One parent gave her daughter a carton of eggs and her son...a hot dog.

Years of therapy for those kids.

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There were eggs being laid before there were chickens.

Only if Heavenly Father placed other egg laying adult animals on earth quite a while before he placed the chicken. Sometimes i don't remember things. But I believe that Heavenly Father put the animals in the Garden of Eden before Adam and Eve. But i don't know if it says anywhere about how long it was between each animal. Brother Ray

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A friend and I have been asking a lot of people this recently - people who work in the Protestant church. A friend of mine who is an Anglican Vicar and he said that the egg came first. Seeing that babies start off as 'eggs' it is only sensible to think that a chicken would start out as a new creation and be born into the world, as we all are.

Yes. We all started out as babies. Beginning with Cain or Abel. Whoever was the oldest. The first chick was hatched from the first egg laid by the adult chicken that Heavenly Father created and put on this earth.

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