The "I'm not really a huge Star Wars fan, and frankly I think people going overboard for a silly space fantasy is kind of weird" thread

[NeuroTypical]

Also, the Mormon connection.

 

[Vort]

2 hours ago, mirkwood said:

So was Rouge One.

[NeuroTypical]

Rogue.  Shares pronunciation with the Klingon Ro'Gh.  Spelled roh-gooey.

Rouge.  Pronounced Rooj.  Spelled roe-you-gee.

[JohnsonJones]

43 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

Rogue.  Shares pronunciation with the Klingon Ro'Gh.  Spelled roh-gooey.

Rouge.  Pronounced Rooj.  Spelled roe-you-gee.

Well, Rouge One could  in theory be about Red One, which if I remember was probably the Leader of the Squadron Luke was a member of eventually in the first Star Wars film.  They always referred to him as Red Leader though, so maybe there was another Red one, but I'd imagine that Red Leader would also be Red One.

Red Five (I think that was Luke's callsign) would have to get killed, either by a mistake by Red One, or by not following what Red One told him (similar to what Luke did in Star Wars, but the first Red Five wouldn't have the force so be killed, leaving it open for Luke to Replace him).

If that's the case, even if everyone else dies, at least that one guy (Red One/Red Leader) needs to survive...as the movie would be all about him.

Is that what happened?

[NightSG]

6 hours ago, JohnsonJones said:

I can only imagine it will be like that new Maginificent 7 movie that came out.  I got all excited about it (plus Westerns are almost never put out in mainstream movie theaters anymore), and then found the original was better in every way

The original?  Your clip was from the first remake. 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Seven-Samurai-Criterion-Collection/10774873  That's the original.

[anatess2]

21 hours ago, Vort said:

Because I'm not really a huge Star Wars fan, and frankly I think people going overboard for a silly space fantasy is kind of weird. Anyone else?

 

21 hours ago, Vort said:

Stupid toaster. One element is burnt out, so my toast always has a dark side.

You're not a huge fan yet you come up with gems like this?  Oh, I get it.  You're not a huge fan.  Just a skinny one.

[anatess2]

21 hours ago, zil said:

Yeah, haven't really paid attention since the original 3.  On the other hand, I need a toaster, and when I tripped over this, I actually paused and looked (kind of like how you look at an accident - you don't really want anything to do with it, but you feel a sick compulsion to look closer):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GD6QWHO/ref=twister_B06XFP86QR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I have the Vader version of this toaster.  Matches my Vader spatula and Vader apron.  

 

[anatess2]

@zil, @mirkwood, @person0

Star Wars 4-6 is classic.  Hands down.

Star Wars 1-3 are crazy awesome - if you're into the books.  Star Wars 3 is the very best book in the entire series - but you have to read the book that covers how Palpatine ended up captured by Grievous before the Star Wars 3 book.  The movie just seemed too superficial - Anakin turning on Windu and then completing the circle to the dark side seemingly for Padme who he ended up choking to "death".  And Yoda being so confident and then seemingly just giving up too easily on his fight with the ultimate enemy.  The characters are a lot more fleshed out in the books.  The books don't have dumb dialogue like the very awkward Padme/Anakin scenes on Star Wars II.  Cried my eyes out reading the Obi-Wan/Anakin battle with the emotions going through both guys very well described in the book.

I love Star Wars 1-3 story arc.  It's a lot more complex than Star Wars 4-6.

I was grumbling when Disney took over the franchise and dumped the entire universe except for the movies and the animated series.  It made Force Awakens not as enjoyable because I lose all the foundational elements in  the universe.   But yeah, Force Awakens is a much better directed movie with the great dialogue and character interaction (one of the reasons I love the Star Trek movies is the witty repartee that Abrams like to do).  I haven't even read the book - first time ever that I haven't been interested in picking the book to the movie up.  But then Rogue One came out and that movie is SOO GOOD that I'm back in solid footing.  Still haven't picked up the books, though.

I love, love, love the Jedi Apprentice series (young reader - takes me an hour or so to leisurely finish one book).   Jude Watson did a great job fleshing out Qui Gon and Obi-Wan's characters.  Cried my eyes out when Qui Gon lost the woman he loves.  Made it more of a tragedy that Anakin ended up as Obi-Wan's apprentice when Qui Gon would have been the perfect master for him as they have the same connection to the living force... aaaaahhh... I really really love great stories and great characters and universes are just an awesome way of getting fully immersed in these people that it seems like they're your real friends!

Okay okay... I'm a Yuge Star Wars fan.

Edited December 12, 2017 by anatess2

[Traveler]

I am a Star Wars Fan (also Star Trek) – I enjoy a lot of science fiction even though most science fiction currently is over dominated (perhaps over the top) with fiction and very little science.  I do not have a lot of faith in Disney doing much better.  It is my personal observation that money and special effects are overemphasize over story telling in big name Hollywood productions, resulting in eye candy with very little substance or redeeming value.

BTW – while we are on the subject of science fiction – I was walking about the other night and saw a most interesting light display in neighbor’s yard.  Obviously, they did not want to take the time to string the lights in the fad of following the limbs of the tree with lights (think temple squar).  Rather they had strung all the light through the tree in concentric circles – mostly in one plane around the tree.  From a distance that lights looked quite similar to a galaxy floating in the yard.  What was so interesting was that the lights provided no resemblance to the tree that supported lights and kept them in place.  I had a possible epiphany about “Dark Matter”.  The entire understanding of Dark Matter is that it is similar to “scaffolding” to support large structures (galaxies and super clusters).  The theory is that Dark Matter shadows or is a skeleton of our galaxies and super clusters.  My thought was; what if Dark Matter is more like the tree and the lights strung on it (what we see) is the cosmos we think is what really exists.  This would mean that Dark Matter (the tree in this case) and Dark Energy are far more vast and perhaps infinate than what we thought.   

So here is my thought concerning all this for a great science fiction story.  The idea is that the structure of the Dark Matter (tree) is also multi-dimensional (similar to wormholes) to allow gateways throughout not only our universe as we currently know it but additional dimensions that exist in or part of our universe.  I am thinking of a vast array of stories (books) of the humans of earth discovering access to everything.  Hmmmmmmm this sounds a lot like the discovering of the Plan of Salvation and the war in heaven.

 

The Traveler

Edited December 13, 2017 by Traveler

[The Folk Prophet]

My wife doesn't care for tomatoes. From my view, all that means is she misses out on one of the great pleasures of life. Too bad for her. That's about all there is to say.

 

[anatess2]

TODAY IS THE DAY!!!

[Guest]

My cousin and I have always done movies together.  Big movies. This time he bought the tickets for us.  So, I have to pay for lunch on Saturday.  We'll see.

[anatess2]

So because we were so late in buying our movie tickets we had to get the 10PM show today.  Tomorrow is a school day for the boys complete with Seminary.  So I told them they can skip school tomorrow.  My husband vetoed me and said, no, we're going to work and they're going to school.  The kids groaned and my husband says, trust me, 30 years from now the thing you're going to be telling your kids is how you're such Star Wars fans that you went to a 10PM showing and still aced school the next day.  Methinks my husband is more Asian than me.

[anatess2]

Ready for tonight!

[Guest]

On 12/11/2017 at 4:22 PM, NeuroTypical said:

Rogue.  Shares pronunciation with the Klingon Ro'Gh.  Spelled roh-gooey.

Rouge.  Pronounced Rooj.  Spelled roe-you-gee.

Typos. Nook-Neh? 

Edited December 14, 2017 by Guest

[Guest]

On 12/11/2017 at 3:48 PM, NeuroTypical said:

I like the Proverbs reference.

[JohnsonJones]

So my son corralled me into seeing this tonight.  He thinks it is excellent.

I won't give out too many spoilers, but the beginning of the movie really seemed about par for the course in regards to it being pretty bad writing at first.  Much like the Prequel movie, the first of them with the Young Anakin.  I was groaning at how bad the writing was.  It eventually gets somewhat better, but I think they made it a wee bit too long for the non-Star Wars fan.  Minor spoiler here...It just went on and on... right as you thought they might be getting to the end...nope.

Luckily, they had a little 5 year old that they took that had to go the bathroom twice...saving me from having to endure it the entire time.

For the record, from them and their family, a rabid Star Wars family I think, they loved it.  The 5 and 8 year olds say it was their favorite Star Wars.

It is a tad violent, but mostly heroic stuff type violence.  Some alcohol (or what appears to be alcohol), gambling and other vices (but not really immorality, which is a good thing) were shown.  My son obviously didn't see any problems letting little children see it.  There may have been a point or two that I may have hesitated, but then I may be biased because it's a space opera and not a western (I probably have lower standards when watching westerns I suppose, that's not a commendable trait about me by the way...that's a weakness of mine).

Another Small spoiler...There were parts that absolutely reminded me a little bit of the Phantom Menace (first of the prequels) in catering to little kids to a degree, but no annoying JarJar characters (that I could see, but there was catering to kids).

It is what it is.  My son's family absolutely loved it and the little kids were hyper on the way to drop me off.  Glad their parents get to deal with them tonight.

I don't think it's going to change any Non-Star Wars fans into Star Wars fans though.  Still not a big fan myself.

[Guest]

@NeuroTypical,

Yet another proof that you're my twin.  Who else understood what I posted?

[Guest]

I love Star Wars, the original trilogy are my favorite movies. Having said that I left the theater last night feeling conflicted, although i will be going to see it again, because I promised my dad I would go with him, I didn' really enjoy the movie. How anyone can say it' the best "Star Wars" is beyond me. Maybe my opinion will change when I watch it again but for now, I am in no way excited to see Ep 9

[anatess2]

On 12/16/2017 at 11:50 AM, miav said:

I love Star Wars, the original trilogy are my favorite movies. Having said that I left the theater last night feeling conflicted, although i will be going to see it again, because I promised my dad I would go with him, I didn' really enjoy the movie. How anyone can say it' the best "Star Wars" is beyond me. Maybe my opinion will change when I watch it again but for now, I am in no way excited to see Ep 9

It's difficult to pick "the best".  Each one - all 9 (including Rogue One) - have their best moments and their worst moments.  The "I am your father" was the best.  The "I love you/I know" was the best.  The Obi-Wan/Anakin battle scene on Ep 3 was the best.  The Kylo/Rey virtual handshake on Ep 8 was the best.  The pod race on Ep 1 was the best.  The Darth Vader scene on Rogue One was the best.  Too many bests all over the franchise.  And then there are the ultra cringy stuff - any dialogue between Anakin and Padme in any movie.  Hah hah.

[NeuroTypical]

There's only one good movie in the whole franchise.

[Guest]

Again with the rouge...