clwnuke

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    clwnuke reacted to estradling75 in How do I tell someone they should not attend the ward?   
    As I mentioned earlier I see no issue with stopping the support (giving rides) of behavior I disagree with.  And being clear on why when asked.  And I have no issues with informaing leadership (The Elder Quorum and Relief Society Presidents are also leaders)
    As for there being a double standard... That is a very real possibility.  After all I was a young man once and I very likely would not have cared that an older lady was attending a singles ward with me.  I am also the father of sons and a daughter and I am far more protective of my little girl then I am my boys.  Is this a double standard?  clearly... is it going to change?  Nope I just do not see that happening.
     
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Highthoughts in Emotional affair and children   
    No it isn't. Heavenly Father's goal is to have ALL His children return home - including you.
    Once we return home and have a full understanding of our Eternal nature and the Savior's love, the suffering your children (may) experience in this life will pale in comparison to the sadness they will feel if you can not join them in the Celestial kingdom. Remember the joy over one soul that repents? You are that one soul at this time. Any price that may be paid today on earth (marriage, husband, children) will be swallowed up in joy and forgiveness in heaven.
    So, do what you need to do with humility and a broken heart. Tell your husband you need to tell him a story, and he will have to tell you how it ends. As a couple, you may or may not choose to share this with your children. But whatever happens, make and stick to a commitment to confess to your Bishop and repent while you patiently and meekly endure all things. It's ALWAYS worth it.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from dprh in Emotional affair and children   
    No it isn't. Heavenly Father's goal is to have ALL His children return home - including you.
    Once we return home and have a full understanding of our Eternal nature and the Savior's love, the suffering your children (may) experience in this life will pale in comparison to the sadness they will feel if you can not join them in the Celestial kingdom. Remember the joy over one soul that repents? You are that one soul at this time. Any price that may be paid today on earth (marriage, husband, children) will be swallowed up in joy and forgiveness in heaven.
    So, do what you need to do with humility and a broken heart. Tell your husband you need to tell him a story, and he will have to tell you how it ends. As a couple, you may or may not choose to share this with your children. But whatever happens, make and stick to a commitment to confess to your Bishop and repent while you patiently and meekly endure all things. It's ALWAYS worth it.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Emotional affair and children   
    No it isn't. Heavenly Father's goal is to have ALL His children return home - including you.
    Once we return home and have a full understanding of our Eternal nature and the Savior's love, the suffering your children (may) experience in this life will pale in comparison to the sadness they will feel if you can not join them in the Celestial kingdom. Remember the joy over one soul that repents? You are that one soul at this time. Any price that may be paid today on earth (marriage, husband, children) will be swallowed up in joy and forgiveness in heaven.
    So, do what you need to do with humility and a broken heart. Tell your husband you need to tell him a story, and he will have to tell you how it ends. As a couple, you may or may not choose to share this with your children. But whatever happens, make and stick to a commitment to confess to your Bishop and repent while you patiently and meekly endure all things. It's ALWAYS worth it.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from SilentOne in Emotional affair and children   
    No it isn't. Heavenly Father's goal is to have ALL His children return home - including you.
    Once we return home and have a full understanding of our Eternal nature and the Savior's love, the suffering your children (may) experience in this life will pale in comparison to the sadness they will feel if you can not join them in the Celestial kingdom. Remember the joy over one soul that repents? You are that one soul at this time. Any price that may be paid today on earth (marriage, husband, children) will be swallowed up in joy and forgiveness in heaven.
    So, do what you need to do with humility and a broken heart. Tell your husband you need to tell him a story, and he will have to tell you how it ends. As a couple, you may or may not choose to share this with your children. But whatever happens, make and stick to a commitment to confess to your Bishop and repent while you patiently and meekly endure all things. It's ALWAYS worth it.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from carlimac in What to expect from the 2020 April general conference   
    My wife and I thought that maybe the General Conference would be broadcast from Palmyra, NY however the hotel rates in the area don't appear too extravagant at this point so probably not.
    Our other thought was that maybe multiple worldwide General Conferences could be held? It will be interesting to see, but the more important matter is the Saint's spiritual preparation for the Conference. That's where President Nelson's main concern seems IMHO.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Midwest LDS in What to expect from the 2020 April general conference   
    My wife and I thought that maybe the General Conference would be broadcast from Palmyra, NY however the hotel rates in the area don't appear too extravagant at this point so probably not.
    Our other thought was that maybe multiple worldwide General Conferences could be held? It will be interesting to see, but the more important matter is the Saint's spiritual preparation for the Conference. That's where President Nelson's main concern seems IMHO.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from laronius in What to expect from the 2020 April general conference   
    My wife and I thought that maybe the General Conference would be broadcast from Palmyra, NY however the hotel rates in the area don't appear too extravagant at this point so probably not.
    Our other thought was that maybe multiple worldwide General Conferences could be held? It will be interesting to see, but the more important matter is the Saint's spiritual preparation for the Conference. That's where President Nelson's main concern seems IMHO.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Edspringer in What to expect from the 2020 April general conference   
    My wife and I thought that maybe the General Conference would be broadcast from Palmyra, NY however the hotel rates in the area don't appear too extravagant at this point so probably not.
    Our other thought was that maybe multiple worldwide General Conferences could be held? It will be interesting to see, but the more important matter is the Saint's spiritual preparation for the Conference. That's where President Nelson's main concern seems IMHO.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Jane_Doe in What to expect from the 2020 April general conference   
    My wife and I thought that maybe the General Conference would be broadcast from Palmyra, NY however the hotel rates in the area don't appear too extravagant at this point so probably not.
    Our other thought was that maybe multiple worldwide General Conferences could be held? It will be interesting to see, but the more important matter is the Saint's spiritual preparation for the Conference. That's where President Nelson's main concern seems IMHO.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Vort in Thoughts on new Children and Youth Initiative?   
    As I listened to the 48-minute video it reminded me of why my wife and I decided to home-school.
    Both of us had been public schooled, but we wanted something different for our family. We called it: "Learning is a Lifestyle" and that became our philosophy and motto. Everywhere we went, and everything we did was an opportunity to learn. The classroom never ended. It was very successful and our children have grown into hard working well-rounded adults. Academically most of them earned full-ride scholarships to college so it worked well in that area too.
    If I were to name this new program I would call it "Gospel Learning is a Lifestyle" and it would have fit into our home learning philosophy perfectly. When our kids were young we would often have family home evening five, six, or seven days a week. The one thing we wanted was a home-based seminary program that we could use, but because we didn't live in a remote area the Church would not allow us to use the existing home curriculum for seminary.
    It seems to me that the natural extension of this new home-centered, church supported Gospel program would be making the seminary program home-based as well. It would be a major change but I guess we will see. I taught Seminary and I loved it, but it is definitely a major disruption to family life in the mornings.
    So, bottom-line is that I am super excited for this program because it fits perfectly into my views on life and education! 
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    clwnuke reacted to MrShorty in Women and children as witnesses   
    It is an interesting idea, and one that maybe needs its own thread to really explore rather than a threadjack. However, when has that stopped anyone from making a threadjack, right?
    I note the following from Handbook 2:
    For the ordinance of administering to the sick (section 20.6): " Only Melchizedek Priesthood holders may administer to the sick or afflicted. "
    For Father's blessings and blessings of comfort (section 20.8): "... one or more Melchizedek Priesthood holders place ..."
    In the one case, the word "Only" would seem to preclude women's participation in the ordinance. In the other case, the wording is less strict, but still makes no mention of women participating.
    I notice that your two statements are from the early and mid 20th century. From what I know of the history (without any expertise to verify the research presented to me), the trend was towards less women participating in ordinances like these throughout the 20th century. Like @clwnuke, I was under the impression that women could not participate at all in performing these ordinances.
    Not knowing the official answer to the question, I offer these thoughts. 1) Is it a case of "if it is not explicitly forbidden it is allowed" or "if it is not explicitly allowed it is forbidden"? 2) We often talk about not relying on "old" quotes from past Church leaders. Do we have anything newer than the '70s or '80s that would validate the older positions of Joseph, Joseph F, and Joseph Fielding Smith(s)? 3) In the spirit of "home centered -- church supported" does a wife/mother even need the Church's permission to participate with her husband in these ordinances?
    Like @clwnuke, I have always been under the impression that women should not participate in these ordinances, though I cannot find a specific prohibition against such. Part of me (the rebellious part, probably) would like to think that women can claim the right to participate whether the Church officially grants permission or not, but I am also mindful of AoF #5. I would feel a lot better about this practice if there was a newer affirmation that women could participate in these ordinances like you describe. With the steam that the feminist movement has (even among Church members), if we were at all comfortable with the older statements, I would think there would be more recent affirmations of the practice. In the absence of those affirmations, I am hesitant to accept the practice by virtue of the older statements alone.
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    clwnuke reacted to Fether in Women and children as witnesses   
    Oh please no...
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    clwnuke got a reaction from MrShorty in Women and children as witnesses   
    I should have been more specific to say that I have never been opposed to Sisters receiving callings to the Priesthood, should the Lord ever choose to make a change in that respect. 
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    clwnuke reacted to mikbone in Women and children as witnesses   
    I have asked my wife to assist with blessings before.  I state my authority and by virtue of her faith.  Never underestimate the faith of a mother.
     
    Whoever told you that you could not do it that way.
     
    Joseph Smith Jr.
    Respecting females administering for the healing of the sick, there could be no evil in it, if God gave his sanction by healing; that there could be no more sin in any female laying hands on and praying for the sick, than in wetting the face with water; it is no sin for anybody to administer that has faith, or if the sick have faith to be healed by their administration. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 224)
     
    Joseph Fielding Smith
    Q: "If a man and his wife were alone with a sick person, could he anoint with the oil and then seal the anointing with his wife assisting using the priesthood she holds jointly with her husband?"   
     
    President Joseph F. Smith in The Improvement Era, Vol. 10, page 308, answered this question as follows:   
    "Does a wife hold the priesthood with her husband and may she lay hands on the sick with him, with authority?"   
    A wife does not hold the priesthood with her husband, but she enjoys the benefits thereof with him; and if she is requested to lay hands on the sick with him, or with any other officer holding the Melchizedek Priesthood, she may do so with perfect propriety. It is no uncommon thing for a man and wife unitedly to administer to their children. . . .   
    The wife would lay on hands just as would a member of the Aaronic Priesthood, or a faithful brother without the priesthood, thus giving support by faith to the ordinance....
    Such an administration would not be by virtue of the priesthood, but a manifestation of faith. (Answers to Gospel Questions, 1:149-150)
     
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    clwnuke got a reaction from MrShorty in Women and children as witnesses   
    If you think about all the procedures and policies that exist in the Church that have no particular scriptural requirements, there is still a great deal of room for adjustments.
    Perhaps Sisters will soon be able to serve as APs, Zone Leaders, or District Leaders on missions? As for me, I trust the Lord's timetable and direction in these matters through His authorized servants, but I've always told my wife that it would be wonderful if we could one day bless our children together 👫, and I would love to see wives sitting with their husbands (or visa-versa) on the stands at church and General Conference.
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    clwnuke reacted to pam in Women and children as witnesses   
    That's what I'm understanding as well.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from pam in Women and children as witnesses   
    As a Baptistry coordinator, Ward Mission leader, and a former Ordinance worker I'm thrilled with this announcement! 
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Women and children as witnesses   
    As a Baptistry coordinator, Ward Mission leader, and a former Ordinance worker I'm thrilled with this announcement! 
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Anddenex in Thoughts on new Children and Youth Initiative?   
    As I listened to the 48-minute video it reminded me of why my wife and I decided to home-school.
    Both of us had been public schooled, but we wanted something different for our family. We called it: "Learning is a Lifestyle" and that became our philosophy and motto. Everywhere we went, and everything we did was an opportunity to learn. The classroom never ended. It was very successful and our children have grown into hard working well-rounded adults. Academically most of them earned full-ride scholarships to college so it worked well in that area too.
    If I were to name this new program I would call it "Gospel Learning is a Lifestyle" and it would have fit into our home learning philosophy perfectly. When our kids were young we would often have family home evening five, six, or seven days a week. The one thing we wanted was a home-based seminary program that we could use, but because we didn't live in a remote area the Church would not allow us to use the existing home curriculum for seminary.
    It seems to me that the natural extension of this new home-centered, church supported Gospel program would be making the seminary program home-based as well. It would be a major change but I guess we will see. I taught Seminary and I loved it, but it is definitely a major disruption to family life in the mornings.
    So, bottom-line is that I am super excited for this program because it fits perfectly into my views on life and education! 
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    clwnuke got a reaction from SilentOne in Thoughts on new Children and Youth Initiative?   
    As I listened to the 48-minute video it reminded me of why my wife and I decided to home-school.
    Both of us had been public schooled, but we wanted something different for our family. We called it: "Learning is a Lifestyle" and that became our philosophy and motto. Everywhere we went, and everything we did was an opportunity to learn. The classroom never ended. It was very successful and our children have grown into hard working well-rounded adults. Academically most of them earned full-ride scholarships to college so it worked well in that area too.
    If I were to name this new program I would call it "Gospel Learning is a Lifestyle" and it would have fit into our home learning philosophy perfectly. When our kids were young we would often have family home evening five, six, or seven days a week. The one thing we wanted was a home-based seminary program that we could use, but because we didn't live in a remote area the Church would not allow us to use the existing home curriculum for seminary.
    It seems to me that the natural extension of this new home-centered, church supported Gospel program would be making the seminary program home-based as well. It would be a major change but I guess we will see. I taught Seminary and I loved it, but it is definitely a major disruption to family life in the mornings.
    So, bottom-line is that I am super excited for this program because it fits perfectly into my views on life and education! 
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Backroads in Would you list a mission on a resume?   
    I recently participated in a practice interview for an intern in our company who wants to eventually apply for a full-time position. His resume listed a vague volunteer opportunity in Sweden for two years. I quickly ascertained that he was LDS in the interview and later asked him why he did not list his mission openly. He said that others in the company has advised him not to do so because of the discrimination that might occur.
    IMHO I don't think people are afraid that you will "preach the gospel", I think there is flat-out bias against LDS people, especially in states like CA. I wouldn't be surprised that in the future religious people who don't share the current views on gay marriage and gender will be legally discriminated against because companies will say that our mere presence makes for a hostile work environment. In that sense, our views on morality could eventually make us unemployable. Those who refuse to fly the rainbow flag will effectively be marked. Hmmm, now where have I read scriptures about that????
    Personally, I have always listed it and have never been shy about my faith, but I think that I grew up in a different era.
    However, I often post on Linkedin, and I recently posted about my mission in Japan and how much it taught me about business. It had a picture of me and my wife in front of the Sacramento temple with my son who was heading out on his own mission to Fiji. That post received almost fifty times as many views as my normal boring business posts. Go figure.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Would you list a mission on a resume?   
    I recently participated in a practice interview for an intern in our company who wants to eventually apply for a full-time position. His resume listed a vague volunteer opportunity in Sweden for two years. I quickly ascertained that he was LDS in the interview and later asked him why he did not list his mission openly. He said that others in the company has advised him not to do so because of the discrimination that might occur.
    IMHO I don't think people are afraid that you will "preach the gospel", I think there is flat-out bias against LDS people, especially in states like CA. I wouldn't be surprised that in the future religious people who don't share the current views on gay marriage and gender will be legally discriminated against because companies will say that our mere presence makes for a hostile work environment. In that sense, our views on morality could eventually make us unemployable. Those who refuse to fly the rainbow flag will effectively be marked. Hmmm, now where have I read scriptures about that????
    Personally, I have always listed it and have never been shy about my faith, but I think that I grew up in a different era.
    However, I often post on Linkedin, and I recently posted about my mission in Japan and how much it taught me about business. It had a picture of me and my wife in front of the Sacramento temple with my son who was heading out on his own mission to Fiji. That post received almost fifty times as many views as my normal boring business posts. Go figure.
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    clwnuke got a reaction from Sunday21 in ThirdHour makes a video, apparently.   
    I love it! I'm grateful for Third Hour  since I have an uncontrollable interest in everything.
    Well done to the creators. I admire talent in those areas!
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    clwnuke got a reaction from dprh in Thoughts on new Children and Youth Initiative?   
    As I listened to the 48-minute video it reminded me of why my wife and I decided to home-school.
    Both of us had been public schooled, but we wanted something different for our family. We called it: "Learning is a Lifestyle" and that became our philosophy and motto. Everywhere we went, and everything we did was an opportunity to learn. The classroom never ended. It was very successful and our children have grown into hard working well-rounded adults. Academically most of them earned full-ride scholarships to college so it worked well in that area too.
    If I were to name this new program I would call it "Gospel Learning is a Lifestyle" and it would have fit into our home learning philosophy perfectly. When our kids were young we would often have family home evening five, six, or seven days a week. The one thing we wanted was a home-based seminary program that we could use, but because we didn't live in a remote area the Church would not allow us to use the existing home curriculum for seminary.
    It seems to me that the natural extension of this new home-centered, church supported Gospel program would be making the seminary program home-based as well. It would be a major change but I guess we will see. I taught Seminary and I loved it, but it is definitely a major disruption to family life in the mornings.
    So, bottom-line is that I am super excited for this program because it fits perfectly into my views on life and education!