laronius Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 Wondering if anyone has seen this movie, if it's worth seeing. I know it's not going to be all doctrinally accurate but sometimes these things are interesting but sometimes they aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnsonJones Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 I hadn't even heard of it until now. Looks to be a documentary type film. It looks like there is a VAST difference between the film critics reviews and the audience reviews (Critics going down as far as 22% approval and Audience reviews on some sites going up as high as 88%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil2 Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 Procrastinate long enough and you won't need to see the movie. Traveler, askandanswer, laronius and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhold Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 I am a professional entertainment writer. I also have an MBA and have, for all intents and purposes, been trained in psychological warfare. That being said - While the film made a pretense of being an investigation into the phenomenon of near-death experiences, the structure of the film and the way various elements are arranged violate the basic tenets of how a documentary film should be. In particular, the way everything is set up nudges the viewer towards a generalized Protestant understanding of the afterlife, such that one can argue the film is in a way propaganda. However... One of the people who they interviewed did describe an experience in a place he referred to as "outer darkness", so make of that what you will... Backroads and Traveler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laronius Posted November 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 hours ago, JohnsonJones said: I hadn't even heard of it until now. Looks to be a documentary type film. It looks like there is a VAST difference between the film critics reviews and the audience reviews (Critics going down as far as 22% approval and Audience reviews on some sites going up as high as 88%). Yeah I had noticed. Not super unusual though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laronius Posted November 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ironhold said: I am a professional entertainment writer. I also have an MBA and have, for all intents and purposes, been trained in psychological warfare. That being said - While the film made a pretense of being an investigation into the phenomenon of near-death experiences, the structure of the film and the way various elements are arranged violate the basic tenets of how a documentary film should be. In particular, the way everything is set up nudges the viewer towards a generalized Protestant understanding of the afterlife, such that one can argue the film is in a way propaganda. However... One of the people who they interviewed did describe an experience in a place he referred to as "outer darkness", so make of that what you will... Considering the studio that made the "movie," I kind of expected that. It sounds like you have seen it. In your opinion, do you think a LDS would come away feeling somewhat edified or at least finding it interesting? Or is it too diluted of truth or just plain bizarre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhold Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, laronius said: Considering the studio that made the "movie," I kind of expected that. It sounds like you have seen it. In your opinion, do you think a LDS would come away feeling somewhat edified or at least finding it interesting? Or is it too diluted of truth or just plain bizarre? Let's just say that each person will likely have an individual reaction based on their own individual experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted November 4, 2023 Report Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Ironhold said: However... One of the people who they interviewed did describe an experience in a place he referred to as "outer darkness", so make of that what you will... The term "Outer Darkness" is not completely unknown to sectarians. It is used three times in the Gospel of Matthew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Ironhold said: the way everything is set up nudges the viewer towards a generalized Protestant understanding of the afterlife, such that one can argue the film is in a way propaganda. ... However... One of the people who they interviewed did describe an experience in a place he referred to as "outer darkness", so make of that what you will... If I am not mistaken, Angel Studios is the producer. So, while it may not be an LDS film, it should be neutral to positive for church members. I'm more interested in seeing the upcoming movie, The Shift. Edited November 5, 2023 by prisonchaplain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil2 Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, prisonchaplain said: The Shift You missed it. It happened this morning while you were asleep and the clocks when from 01:59:59 back to 01:00:00 (rather than ahead to 02:00:00). The bad news is that you can experience it again in spring when the clocks go from 01:59:59 to 03:00:00 (skipping right over the entire 02:00 hour). And then again next fall, and then again.... Vort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, zil2 said: You missed it. It happened this morning while you were asleep and the clocks when from 01:59:59 back to 01:00:00 (rather than ahead to 02:00:00). The bad news is that you can experience it again in spring when the clocks go from 01:59:59 to 03:00:00 (skipping right over the entire 02:00 hour). And then again next fall, and then again.... zil2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, zil2 said: You missed it. If I am not mistaken, at least according to the trailer, Satan is behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil2 Posted November 5, 2023 Report Share Posted November 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, prisonchaplain said: If I am not mistaken, at least according to the trailer, Satan is behind it. I know nothing about the movie, but if you mean DST, then yes, he is. prisonchaplain, Vort, mordorbund and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 7 hours ago, zil2 said: You missed it. It happened this morning while you were asleep and the clocks when from 01:59:59 back to 01:00:00 (rather than ahead to 02:00:00). The bad news is that you can experience it again in spring when the clocks go from 01:59:59 to 03:00:00 (skipping right over the entire 02:00 hour). And then again next fall, and then again.... Oh my goodness. I actually experienced it this morning so I can totally have an opinion. I usually sleep right through it. But I was curious to whether or not I truly had experienced it so I sat watching my phone for like 15 minutes to see what happened after 1:59 am. Was it entertaining? Eh... Carborendum and zil2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil2 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Backroads said: Was it entertaining? Eh... Try writing the code to deal with it. Holy nightmare, Batman! Backroads and Carborendum 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 10 hours ago, Backroads said: Oh my goodness. I actually experienced it this morning so I can totally have an opinion. I usually sleep right through it. But I was curious to whether or not I truly had experienced it so I sat watching my phone for like 15 minutes to see what happened after 1:59 am. Was it entertaining? Eh... Wait, wait, waitaminute... So, you're saying that staying up to all hours of the night and sitting in a single position just staring at your phone for 15 minutes wasn't entertaining? zil2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prisonchaplain Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 17 hours ago, zil2 said: I know nothing about the movie, but if you mean DST, then yes, he is. To be clear, I was suggesting that the devil is behind the shift, not Angel Studios. Further, I would argue that standard time is God's answer to the devil's innovation--daylight time. 😁 Vort and zil2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil2 Posted November 6, 2023 Report Share Posted November 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, prisonchaplain said: To be clear, I was suggesting that the devil is behind the shift, not Angel Studios. Further, I would argue that standard time is God's answer to the devil's innovation--daylight time. 😁 Amen, brother! Backroads and prisonchaplain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still_Small_Voice Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 I saw the After Death movie a few hours ago. In my opinion I would give it a thumbs up. The director of the movie is hoping to inspire others about the reality of the next life and God. I am glad I went to see it. zil2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 6:44 AM, Carborendum said: Wait, wait, waitaminute... So, you're saying that staying up to all hours of the night and sitting in a single position just staring at your phone for 15 minutes wasn't entertaining? Yeah. Go figure. Carborendum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfmylife Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 I saw this with my wife who is a PhD/DO and works as an interventional cardiologist. We both really enjoyed it. The music and visuals were beautiful and inspiring. It did a great job blending the empirical with the experiential. To me, it put to rest the notion that these experiences are just the last gasp of dying brain cells. I don't believe the movie depicted outer darkness, but the separation of spirit prison from the rest of the spirt world. I certainly felt it confirms my faith. The two things the movie emphasized to me are how this life is temporary and not our true home and the immense love and mercy our Father in Heaven and his Son Jesus Christ have for all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carborendum Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Backroads said: Yeah. Go figure. I always knew you were a thrill seeker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Carborendum said: I always knew you were a thrill seeker. I spent Saturday morning in the laundry room. Folding clothes, organizing the shelves, watching Harry Potter theory videos on Youtube while I did all of this. It was wild. zil2, Carborendum and Still_Small_Voice 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, Backroads said: I spent Saturday morning in the laundry room. Folding clothes, organizing the shelves, watching Harry Potter theory videos on Youtube while I did all of this. It was wild. People who live on the edge like this frighten me. Still_Small_Voice, Carborendum, zil2 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted November 7, 2023 Report Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 11/5/2023 at 8:54 PM, zil2 said: Try writing the code to deal with it. Holy nightmare, Batman! If you think that DST is confusing here on earth – think how it would be, even in heaven and knowing the future of all things; how confusing it would be if by some stroke of luck (or time) that the second coming ended up when all the clocks are being reset to account for DST. Then along with all the time zones and the international date line. It would be impossible, even for G-d to prophesy the proper hour and day. The Traveler zil2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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