RescueMom

My biggest issues, besides my own sins (which are plenty) is the self-righteousness and entitlement thinking of being the chosen people that some members. Those who think because they have been chosen they are better than everyone else. It disturbs me when I see this happening, but I am assuming it's all me just being judging. Also, when members say they want to be like the Nephites...I sort of want to say, you might want to read the entire book. It makes my faith in humans sort of waiver. I have said many times I am glad I wasn't Christ, because I know I would have not been able to do what he did.

Sister_in_Faith, I'd just like to say, and most miss this, is that women bring our Heavenly Fathers children through the veil into this world, not men. That is why being sealed in the temple is so highly taught and sought after. Bringing those children through the veil into this life is just as scared as it is on the other side of the situation, when men bring our Heavenly Fathers children through the other side of the veil. I have found in all the teachings and doctrine of the church there is always a two-fold part of everything, male and female. I agree with Justice, we are under our Fathers care in this life. Just something to think about.

When the dog says it's time to go home, it's time to go home.

The article said the state tried to work with the parents for 20 months to help them help the kid. I read in another article (which I can't find now) that the mother had basically refused to follow the doctors suggestions and opted to do what she wanted to do, regardless of if it worked or not. Also in the same article it said that the family had been investigated for child neglect of other children....If I can find the link I will post it. It was much more eye opening. I was sort of upset the state took the kid until I read that article, sounded like the mother had some real parenting issues and was refusing real help.

Whiskey in the Jar. but I like it because it's really an old Irish tune, done by Thin Lizzy and redone by Metallica. The rest of the stuff is too hard for me.

I feel the yearning to go home...I work on being prepared to go home, and fully know that I am not perfect, and only through the Atonement can I make it home. I do what I can, I know it's not enough but I also have faith in Christ to cover the rest. I also think I yearn to go home because there are people I desperately miss who are on the other side, friends and family, even pets. As for the second coming and the building of Zion, again I do what I can, walk or crawl sometimes as best as I am able. I work on fulfilling my duties. I really like this new Mormon Message, speaking of fear. Men's Hearts Shall Fail Them - YouTube

Any one, member or not, who is so afraid, does not truly understand the Atonement. Even if there are secret combinations....and evil everywhere....how does that change a person who is truly converted to Christ? It doesn't affect my convictions one bit, I know Christ is the Savior and only through him can I reach my full potential. Secret combinations or believing in them by others only shows me that those who believe in them don't fully understand the power of Christ, and I am sad for them.

I might be the only one who suggest this, but go to a doctor, get tested...for everything, if you haven't done so already. You have no idea where these other women have been. Second, get some help either via Bishop or a good therapist. Books can only do so much. Ask your husband to join you in marriage therapy sessions. I suspect the Bishop will recommend marriage council anyway. As for the baptism, no he should not perform it. As suggested before have one of the grandfathers do it, if possible. And most of the time kids can pick up on problems between mom and dad, they don't have to know the details but I would bet they can pick up on the tension. Not being able to talk about this with a real person will only build resentment up in the end. Please for yourself and your kids talk to someone you can trust, Bishop, Therapist, someone. It will eat you up other wise.

As a person who has survived a narcissistic neglectful and abusive mother, I say no not all women are cut out to be mothers. The abuse my brother and I suffered at her hands, and that at our step fathers hands with her knowledge...and the neglect that damaged both mine and my brothers health even in our mid 40's was horrendous. And she did all of this while being a RS president, a great worker in the church and putting on a great show for the church that she was a good person. It is also the reason my brother will never come back to church ever. After several years of therapy and help, I've finally come to realize it wasn't the church, but her twisted and warped way of thinking. My brother and I would have been 100% better had we been adopted out to other parents.

Gwen I so wish you could tell all of this to a friend of mine who is sure her sealing is in place, even though her ex husband left her, left the church, is a member of the catholic church now and wants nothing to do with her or the church. She says she prays that he will come back to her (after 12 years) and is sure that the sealing is in place and that in the next life time he will repent and all will be well. She doesn't account for his sins of abuse and adultry or that he has free will. She is also afraid if she remarries and asks for a sealing cancellation she will lose her children. It's frustrating. In effect she has damned herself, yet she prays she has a good and righteous husband. It's really frustrating.

As a parent, I do understand the pain and suffering my children go through, I even hurt for them when they are making the mistakes and know they are making mistakes. I fully think our Heavenly Father understands all of our pains, sins and sadness. He understands them enough that he didn't stay the knife and gave up our brother to save us, so we could come home to him. He understands Christ enough that he had the ultimate faith in him to complete the Atonement. He knows us, knows all our issues, all our strengths. And through his mortal ministry and the Atonement so does Christ, and that makes it possible for Christ to be our Savior to the Father. Because, even though our Heavenly Father knows us (far better than we know ourselves) no unclean thing may enter into his presence....we can only be cleaned through the blood of Christ. And Heavenly Father and Christ both know that about us.

We don't change per say, but we do change our thought patterns and the way we spiritually deal with things. There are lots that we could not learn in the pre-existence. We did not know pain, or suffering, thus we did not know joy. We didn't know what it was like the have the sun warm our face or the taste of chocolate. We didn't know what it was like to feel the consequences of our choices, because our choices were limited...we did not know the feeling of temptation or forgiveness. It's a double edged sword coming here. We all have the potential to make it back, but before this life we didn't have the knowledge of the full impact of making it back. Yes it is like we have gone from inside a safe nursery school room into the vast outdoors. We could see the rain, and notice the wind and sun, but we could never really appreciate them until we are out in them. Ships are real pretty in the harbor, but that is not where they are meant to stay. Our Heavenly Father gave us these wonderful ships, we can follow the set course that will get us safely back in the harbor or we can plot our own. Either way we will face storms and trials, but if we follow the set course it will be easier and we won't wreck ourselves on the jagged rocks of sin. It's all in preparation for us to be able to build our own harbors one day, and perhaps our own ships. But if all we did was sit in the harbor, we'd not really learn anything. Change is constant. Our core personalities are there, we grow and change from that point. We need it to grow. And if we are not growing we are damned. Lucifer and his host will not change from what they were in the pre-existence. He and his hosts do not, and will never know, how wonderful the sun feels.

The shifting of the wheat and tares is beginning to happen. Those who are just there for the culture will be shifted out....soon. It will be easy to tell, they will have no real testimony of the Atonement of Christ. It will be only in that testimony that the wheat will make it, all other foundations that members have built their church going on will be destroyed. Some will gain a testimony, others will fall away. Hence many are called, but few are chosen. IMHO, the shifting is going to happen, and we will see many who have come from long pioneer stock who are in the church for social reasons fall away....probably due to a doctrinal change or something the GA proclaim. I already see it happening. It has been foretold that many will fall away.

I've got a handful of best friends...one of which I have had since I was 4, we met in primary. She's moved, I've moved, we've lived in different countries...most of the time we talk, but have gone months without talking, and can pick up right where we left off. When she had her daughter she gave her the name Kathy that everyone thought was after another friend of ours (also a Kathy)...only I knew the real story. Her father new a girl with the same name (Kathy)...who struggled in the church, finally came back fully in the church and was getting ready to go through the temple for the first time when a member of her family killed her. My friends father said I always reminded him of this girl. My friend said this girl had made such an impact on her father, he had helped her get back into the church and had such a strong testimony of Christ that she felt it was the only name she could giver her own daughter. She has told me so many times I reminded her father of the girl, and that her father had told her several times that we would always remain close as friends. I think sometimes we are predestined to be friends with people our entire lives.

The way I see it is...the Landlord owns the Planet, we are all just here as guests. We can work to make money, which in the eternity means nothing. We can make that money, buy our houses and live comfortably...and not share in our blessings or we can. It's up to us. We can not work and not make money, and share our blessings or not. It is up to us. However, I have no doubt in my mind that, none of us actually own anything. I, for one, don't even own the body I am in, it's a rental and I didn't even pay the rent on it. I think in the end it's how we treat each other, if we treat each other as political enemies and get bogged down in those issues...what exactly are we going to tell Christ...'well I didn't help this person because...he was a liberal democrat who was lazy' or 'well I didn't help this person because he was a republican...and heck he had all the money anyway'. When we face Christ, what will we say? Will the governments of the world matter when standing there in front of him? What will matter is how we treated each other. We are spiritual beings on a mortal journey, and it's a short journey.

I say excuse me and hope they move. Sometimes the don't, then I just wait....and hope I get in their way in the next isle.

Marriage takes work, and just remember even Joseph and Emma had fights. Every couple has issues, it's how those are handled that makes a good marriage. Kids do cause stress, but that's just not for married folks, even us single moms get snippy....so it's the kids. I guess the best advice I can give you is this, remember that the other person is a Child of God and treat accordingly. I kept that in my mind while raising my kids, they are God's Children first, and I will have to answer to him on my treatment of them. Same can be said of Husband/Wife.

I must be the only one who thinks that if I truly loved someone and they wanted out of a sealing to me, and felt I could not be that person they wanted to spend forever with, that I would grant them the petition of cancellation. Yes it would hurt, but if I really loved someone, I would want their happiness to come first and if that meant having me out of the picture...I would bow out gracefully. But this is just my own feelings and thoughts. Of course I don't think of HF and Jesus as being so cruel as to say I couldn't enter into another eternal marriage in the next lifetime, especially if I had lived up to my covenants, or had repented of sins I had committed and was back in good standing. I guess I am just that way.

Yes, yes you did.. The rapture happened. Now look around you and look where you're at. Yes that is right, none of us made it passed this world. We will be stuck here forever. This is as good as it gets. Have a nice day! :) :D:D:lol:

Estradling You and I must live in the same area. I've not had a home teacher in years....even though I have told my Bishop(s) and High Priest Group Leader(s). yes there is an s after both of those since I have been through 3 Bishops and not one home teacher. Yes I have asked, repeatedly, even spoke to the SP about it all.... Meh I just assume that at this point I am to go it alone without the benefits of the Priesthood. I used to get upset by it, now I don't. I figure one day I might get them, but I am not holding my breath. And I have gone almost my entire life without any real Priesthood anyway, and I'm still alive and still have faith in Christ. don't have much faith in any of his brothers but I'll get over that sometime.

Here's a story off of LDS.org, from an official LDS publication. Fast Enough - Liahona Sept. 2007 - liahona 41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. 42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. 43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: 44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did ccast in all that she had, even all her living.

Life's rough on us Idealist Healers...I tell you what. But we are in good company ;-)

:mad::mad::mad::mad: That. is. just. wrong. I don't mean to be boasting or anything, but I've survived 8 apocalypsi. So far.

Cwald, I am like you, I think it's our personality type (INFP here). When I first started on this board I was, in all honesty, shocked. But it is an internet board, nothing more. If you are going to go back to church to be closer to God, it will be easier to accept the differences in others there, if you are going to have a social gathering it's going to be harder. Everyone is different, has different personalities, and will treat others differently. We are not perfect, only working on being perfect. As an INFP, it's in my personality, nature, to see the potential of people to be more Christ like, and get disappointed when they fail. It's not their fault, its my own clouded thinking, I've come to realize that in my self. I understand completely the what you are saying about doing it without the LDS church, there are many truths out there and God doesn't just reside only in the LDS church. He doesn't work that way, he gives knowledge, truth, guidance and love to all his children. Your relationship with Heavenly Father is what is important, even if it is in your own way. I am of the belief that having a relationship with God is the most important thing right now, everything else will come with time, and eternity is a long time. As a parent with a prodigal son, that story takes on a whole new meaning from the parents pov. I don't care how my son decides to come home, I am just elated he has started on a path back. I don't want anything to distract him, it doesn't matter if he sticks to the path completely, so long as keeps coming home. I hope this all makes sense. Yes I do expect others here to disagree with what I have said above. ;-)

I have to wonder if this isn't already being fulfilled. Ephraim is a lost tribe, we are in North America, and there are lots of temples with a lot of temple work going on...well all the tribes except Judah were lost....how many our temples are in the northern hemisphere. Just a curious thought on my part.