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[Emmanuel Goldstein]

Can the Governor of Washington be that out of touch? Is this even possible?

 

[Guest MormonGator]

6 minutes ago, Emmanuel Goldstein said:

s this even possible?

No. He's lying. 

[Vort]

Jay Inslee is a joke. Outside of the state of Washington, he's mostly unknown, and outside of King County, Washington, he is not well-respected by most of the public who do know him. King County put him in office. It certainly was not the east side of the state that put him in Olympia.

[scottyg]

24 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

No. He's lying. 

Or, he's just an idiot.

Edited June 16, 2020 by scottyg

[Guest MormonGator]

3 minutes ago, scottyg said:

Or, he's just an idiot.

I don't fall into the "X doesn't agree with me, so they must be stupid or evil.".

[Vort]

29 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

I don't fall into the "X doesn't agree with me, so they must be stupid or evil.".

That's a logical fallacy when applied as a blanket rule. But I see nothing illogical about examining an individual's words and actions and concluding that that individual is an idiot.

[NeuroTypical]

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"Look, we've gotta have safety.  I'm sure that people will find a way to find public safety everywhere in the state.  I'm confident of that." 

When they make a statue of this guy, it should be doing the breast stroke.  So when they throw it in the river 100 years later it'll make sense. 

[scottyg]

47 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

I don't fall into the "X doesn't agree with me, so they must be stupid or evil.".

Nor do I, at least I don't think I do. But I don't think that case applies here. He is simply choosing of his own volition to be blind to the corrupt situation going on around him...and with the situation being as serious as it is with so many severe ramifications being possible, he is definitely a complete idiot.

[Guest MormonGator]

3 minutes ago, scottyg said:

he is definitely a complete idiot.

All of these guys totally agree with you. 

[Colirio]

DICTIONARY

id·i·ot

/ˈidēət/

 

noun

INFORMAL

a stupid person.

ARCHAIC

a person of low intelligence.
 

 

As this person clearly has not been given the intel of the situation, by his own admission, he is a person of low intelligence. 

 

For what it’s worth, I agree with MG that he is attempting to be deceptive by downplaying the situation. But what else can he do and still hope to get re-elected? How can anyone objectively assess this situation and vote for him (or especially the mayor!) ever again? 

[Carborendum]

13 minutes ago, scottyg said:

Nor do I, at least I don't think I do. But I don't think that case applies here. He is simply choosing of his own volition to be blind to the corrupt situation going on around him...and with the situation being as serious as it is with so many severe ramifications being possible, he is definitely a complete idiot.

Two words:

Plausible Deniability.

[Vort]

Just now, Carborendum said:

Two words:

Plausible Deniability.

Exactly. Except for the "plausible" part.

[Carborendum]

Just now, Vort said:

Exactly. Except for the "plausible" part.

OK, I guess I missed the word "attempted."

IOW, he was punting.

[anatess2]

18 minutes ago, Colirio said:

How can anyone objectively assess this situation and vote for him (or especially the mayor!) ever again? 

You'll be surprised.

[scottyg]

31 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

All of these guys totally agree with you. 

This has nothing to do with right versus left. There are plenty of stupid conservative politicians. This guy in particular is simply an idiot. Maybe I missed something in your remarks, but I don't understand what point you are trying to make here.

[Colirio]

5 minutes ago, anatess2 said:

You'll be surprised.

Well, “objectively assess” is key phrasing here! 
 

Of the actual results, unfortunately,  I’m pretty sure we both already know.... 😕 
 

 

[anatess2]

Just now, Colirio said:

Well, “objectively assess” is key phrasing here! 
 

Yes.  You'll be surprised.  You think the people who promoted Hilary and are now promoting Biden are not objectively assessing their decades of corruption and pandering?

 

Just now, Colirio said:

Of the actual results, unfortunately,  I’m pretty sure we both already know.... 😕 
 

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here and what I'm supposed to already know.

[Guest MormonGator]

11 minutes ago, scottyg said:

This has nothing to do with right versus left. There are plenty of stupid conservative politicians. This guy in particular is simply an idiot. Maybe I missed something in your remarks, but I don't understand what point you are trying to make here.

It was tongue in cheek-I was making the point that this guy has been vastly successful in politics, and I'm sure all the people he has beaten call him a dummy head too. 

I'm always uncomfortable when people like you and I call any one else an "idiot" from the privacy of our own homes on our computers and cell phones. Well, if we're so much smarter than these fools, why are we complaining on internet forums and they are like, you know, doing stuff. Like being successful in their careers!   

Edited June 16, 2020 by MormonGator

[Colirio]

Just now, anatess2 said:

Yes.  You'll be surprised.  You think the people who promoted Hilary and are now promoting Biden are not objectively assessing their decades of corruption and pandering?

 

No. I don’t think they are objectively assessing at all. I think they are assessing with a preconceived, desired outcome, just like most people do. 

 

Just now, anatess2 said:

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here and what I'm supposed to already know.

That I agree with you. I think, perhaps, you misunderstand what I am saying. 
 

I agree with your assessment that they will still be voted for by many people. 

[scottyg]

5 minutes ago, MormonGator said:

It was tongue in cheek-I was making the point that this guy has been vastly successful in politics, and I'm sure all the people he has beaten call him a dummy head too. 

I'm always uncomfortable when people like you and I call any one else an "idiot" from the privacy of our own homes on our computers and cell phones. Well, if we're so much smarter than these fools, why are we complaining on internet forums and they are like, you know, doing stuff. Like being successful in their careers!   

Gotcha. I disagree, (and still think he's an idiot) but now I understand what you're saying.

[Guest MormonGator]

1 minute ago, scottyg said:

now I understand what you're saying.

That's all that matters my friend. I don't care if we agree or not. 

[anatess2]

1 hour ago, Colirio said:

 

No. I don’t think they are objectively assessing at all. I think they are assessing with a preconceived, desired outcome, just like most people do. 

They are very much so objectively assessing.  Saying otherwise would have to make the improbable conclusion that these people are idiots or easily led by the nose.  No... they are objectively assessing.  They just have completely different motivations than other people.

[prisonchaplain]

The Seattle City Council has two parties--Democrats and Democratic Socialists. Since at least the early 1980s there have been signs downtown calling for revolution--for the overthrow of the corrupt capitalist system. Seattle proper is roughly 25% atheist (compared with less than 3% nationally). Evergreen State College should already be bankrupt (a school built for 4000+ students with a current enrollment around 2400), yet it just keeps chugging along. So...no, this doesn't surprise me. Gov. Inslee may not be too popular outside of King-Pierce-Snohomish counties, but those 3 make up roughly 75% of the state. Perhaps CHAZ is what allows Amazon, Microsoft and Boeing to come across as benign and mildly conservative. They support big liberal government that regulates their competitors out of business, but get to look reasonable thanks to the long-in-development CHAZ/CHOP.

[Colirio]

25 minutes ago, anatess2 said:

They are very much so objectively assessing.  Saying otherwise would have to make the improbable conclusion that these people are idiots or easily led by the nose.  No... they are objectively assessing.  They just have completely different motivations than other people.

 

ob·jec·tive·ly

/əbˈjektivlē,äbˈjektivlē/

 

 

adverb

adverb: objectively

1. in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions

    

    

    

Are you trying to tell me that the majority of people aren’t politically influenced by their personal feelings and opinions? 
 

In many ways, politics has become a team sport, cheering for the home team while hissing at the opposition. 

[Guest MormonGator]

30 minutes ago, Colirio said:

In many ways, politics has become a team sport, cheering for the home team while hissing at the opposition. 

Perfectly said. It's always been like this to some degree, sadly.