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  1. There was a giant Christian Seminary in my mission, whose stance on salvation was the “confess Christ and your saved” approach to salvation, and once a year they did a course on Mormons and invited the missionaries to come teach. For years the mission president and APs would go and spend one day teaching the basic doctrines and then the next day answering questions that had nothing to do with basic doctrines. The last year of my mission, my MP talked them into a corner where they admitted the only reason we are going to Hell is because we confessed the wrong Christ is our savior. Because we confessed to a savior we believed had a physical body, we were going to hell. (on a side note, a girl that had snuck into these classes just to heckle and brutally argue with the missionaries got baptized after this meeting)
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  2. KScience

    Released - Not ready

    Hi chaps, just need a safe place to vent tonight. I am moving out of the ward at the end of August. I informed the Bishopric a couple of weeks ago so that they had plenty of warning. So last night I get a text from the 1st counselor asking if I can meet early on Sunday "for a chat". Today at a ward activity the 2nd counselor grabs me "for a chat" and I am being released tomorrow. I am NOT ready, we have Beehive camp, the girls have fun activities planned over the summer I was looking forward to and as a teacher I will finally have time not to be running around like a headless chicken..... *pouting like a small child* So tonight I am making notes for the next YW pres, so that there can be a smooth handover....... and plan to approach the primary president offering my services for the next month Trying to find the positive....BUT.... Really still just pouting.....
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  3. This is sudden with not much notice, but I want to have a game of LDS Trivia and Puzzles either tonight or tomorrow night at the usual time of 6 PM Pacific, 9 PM Eastern. The game takes place at the same location: DALnet on IRC in #lds_trivia channel. More information is on the website. I successfully moved references to the software. Unfortunately, the way it makes the HTML doesn't have the desired effect. Oh, well. Anyway, I also updated the sources in the answers themselves. I want to make it as easy as possible for people to find and even verify answers. It's also there if players want to study more about various topics.
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  4. I don't want to offend Americans and I kind of view myself as American anyway. But that women's US team had no respect for their opponents or the game of football. I don't like any of the players
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  5. mordorbund

    Lamb of God

    I saw the same when I searched. You can broaden your search by removing the quotes and you'll see several allusion to Christ as Lamb. What I think is worth noting is that in the Book of Mormon (as already observed) Nephi uses the term the most, while in the Bible it's his literary doppleganger John (in both his Revelation and his gospel - parallels to Nephi's vision). Joseph Smith was very clever.
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  6. My thought is that a better example with which to examine this premise would be the oneness Pentecostals. Doctrine-wise, they line up 95-99% with me. Their worship is awesome. They love Jesus--oh do they love Jesus. They are conservative, biblical literalists, and they do Pentecost they way we use to do it. BUT, they deny the Trinity. If I were to officiate a baptism using their formula ("I baptize you in the name of Jesus, for the remission of sins) I would be defrocked. So, are they Christians? I suppose C.S. Lewis would say no. Many of the groups you consider "Anti" would deny them as well. I'm pretty sure they would be denied membership in the National or World Council of Churches. Again...are they Christian? If doctrinal orthodoxy determines the word's meaning, then no. If it is something else, then maybe or probably. Honestly...I don't argue the word. If Lewis is right, then the word does not refer to "what Jesus actually taught," because by that definition Muslims could be Christian. After all, they argue that Jesus never claimed to be the Son of God, and that his disciples corrupted his message. If Lewis is wrong, and the word's meaning based on anything subjective, then, like the word "gentlemen," just about anyone can use it, but the word becomes most imprecise in meaning. I suspect that's where the larger Christian world is heading--to a very broad, all-encompassing definition--one that includes rather than excludes. To get at where someone is really at, the term Christian will need to be followed up with, "What kind?" One more example. A guy at work told me he was Catholic, but that he disagreed with some of the church's teachings. Which ones? Abortion, birth control, gay marriage, etc. etc. I quipped, "Are you a Christmas/Easter only Catholic?" He look a bit embarrassed and said, "Well...I don't really go that often."
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  7. When we say “original meaning”, do we mean that when Agrippa used the word (or its Greek equivalent) in Acts 26 he meant “Trinitarian”; or that he was referring to some doctrinal litmus year above and beyond “believer in the messiahship of Yesuha-bin-Yusuf”? I agree with you generally that what we are is far more important than what we are called. That being said, and trying to approach the matter with a degree of detachment: it strikes me that most of the litmus tests being offered by those who seek to monopolize the term in modern times have little to do with anything Jesus actually taught; and more to do with making sure that Mormons remain theologically, socially, and politically “otherized”.
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  8. I am not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (I thought the term "Mormon" is now frowned upon?) but I think of myself as very friendly to the Church and open to learning wherever I can find it. As Scott said, this is also the biggest issue I've seen, but a close #2 is how Jesus and Lucifer are sometimes portrayed as spiritual brothers, which is a total, instantaneous, and irrevocable deal-breaker for many of my fellow Protestants, who simply cannot bring themselves to visualize Jesus and Lucifer as a sort of Cain and Abel. I have studied this topic a bit and my understanding is that God is believed to be the Father of all beings, so in a sense we are all brothers and sisters. But that concept can be awkwardly expressed in ways that frighten the daylights out of people who have never heard it before. Maybe I'm a naive contrarian here, but I'd say many of my thoughtful friends define "Christendom" as "the set of all people who call themselves Christian," which seems like a reasonable starting point to me.
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  9. mordorbund

    So who’s going?

    Well played USAF. Well played. Can Wikileaks publish a video of this meeting?
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  10. JojoBag

    Joke

    A young boy and his father were in an argument about the weather. His father., Rudolph, was a leader in the communist party, and was a very smart man. The mother looked fondly on as they argued. “Father, I do believe it will snow.” “No, son, it will rain.” “You're wrong, it will snow.” “No, son, it will rain.” This went for an hour until the mother stepped it. “Son, listen to your father. Rudolph the Red, knows rain deer.”
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